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Old 05-19-2010, 06:40 AM
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Intent

This is a response that I wrote in another thread on another board, but I'd like to read your thoughts about intent.

To me, the biggest thing isn't fighting to train, but training with the intent to fight. I don't think that's the case with 90% of the TCMA practitioners out there. Maybe 98%.

IMO you have to honestly train with the intent to fight... otherwise you're wasting yours and everyone else's time with something that amounts to little more than a yogic dance class mixed with a little pseudo-scientific yoda psychology in the guise of... martial arts. It's not MA.

The biggest hurdle to overcome is not knowing if you're training with the intent to fight because you may think that you are... but you're not. That can be found out easily in hard sparring or sport. You should be able to hold your own in that type of venue. And, if you're too old for that- someone in your gym isn't and they should be "holding their own" in a sport venue. That's a little vicarious validation, but still worthwhile meaning that at least what you're training has the capacity to work in a real fight.

I think intent is the biggest difference between modern MMA and TCMA.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:42 AM
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where are you getting these %'s from?
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:44 AM
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where are you getting these %'s from?
My opinion. That's including people who think they are training with intent, but aren't in a school that can teach properly to give students the capacity to fight.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:07 AM
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I competed since I was a lad, I fought full contact even as a teenager.
I never understood intent until I became a Sniper in the army.
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you will never be ready to spar, wing chun subhuman. your muscle have atrophied to size of a paraplegic from years of sil nim tao.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:18 AM
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:25 AM
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pic explains intent most definitely, looking at it, I understand intent
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I'm using a mac and only see the question mark. Your pic isn't coming through d@mn it.
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Interesting statement.
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I'm using a mac and only see the question mark. Your pic isn't coming through d@mn it.
Lack of chi AND intent...*tsk,tsk*
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It's important to mention that it takes nine pounds of pressure to break the human neck. Without mention of that, it's hard to understand how 98% of people, or 90%, are failing in their training.

Also, dogs can't look up.

Can this thread also be about how to spell wing chun, or is that not overplayed enough for this thread?

I'd also like to add that, in China, there are people who can kill this thread without touching it, but you round eyes are not capable of learning that because you lack contact with women with sideways vaginas.

Also, Irish men have dinky winkies. They drink because of the irony that redheads all have gynormous beefcurtains.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:44 PM
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And KC Elbows delivers a stunning death blow early in the first round!
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Perhaps we should broaden the scope of this thread. Since it obviously gets nowhere focusing on what individuals are doing successfully, but on broad groups who aren't all doing the same thing(for ease of faulty generalization), I feel the 98% of people who use salted butter in their cookies deserve somewhere where the 2% who don't can take some sort of smug superiority in this fact.

Also, those who can't properly bar a chord on guitar, and, alternately, those who can't play in b flat major. I'd say 95% can't, and I feel limited in my choice of venues to talk about them.

Ultimately, this whole internet thing is a washout if it doesn't turn us all into grannies gossiping about the neighbors.

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98% of mma guys with tats have inferior tats to most kung fu guys. Discuss.
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