Good Traditional Kung Fu

[MightyB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVhGKEIcxE

An example of what I like to see and a Sifu doing what I aspire to in how I now train.

[Yum Cha]

Thats some groovy stuff. It looks like hybrid stuff to me, some chin na with jjj, maybe some Bjj?

Anybody know exactly what it is?

[uki]

LOL... this is called "fighting skills"??? looks pretty useless to me.

[Yum Cha]

Originally Posted by uki

LOL... this is called "fighting skills"??? looks pretty useless to me.

Uki,
Every time you pass judgement, a kitten dies....

Merry Christmas!

[Lee Chiang Po]

Originally Posted by uki

LOL... this is called "fighting skills"??? looks pretty useless to me.

They are actually fighting skills. Not useless at all. Almost every technique involved here can be found in Jap Jujitsu. So it is pretty much exactly what is written above the video. With exception of BJJ, which is nothing more than a take off on Jap jujitsu. These skills can be used to break limbs, strangle a person, either to submit or to injure them or even kill them. Designed to over power power itself. I have 4 black belts in Jap Jujitsu. There are only like 60 different techniques, but I have up to a dozen variations of each one, making more than 600 moves total. Something to fit any situation or any sized fellow. Not only does Jujitsu have all these same moves, it has a multitude of strikes and kicks, using all the same pressure points of any other system. In most cases you can remain standing while applying takedowns and or disabling techniques.
Jujitsu is not my choice of self defense in most cases, but it has served me well during my lifetime. I highly recommend it. It is very good when you do not wish to injure or maim someone.

LCP

[Eddie]

how do one get 4 black belts? 4 different styles of jj? Did you start at white belt with all 4 of them?

more importantly, do you wear all 4 at the same time, or do u have just one, VERY thick belt to indicate your rank?

[dimethylsea]

Originally Posted by MightyB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVhGKEIcxE

An example of what I like to see and a Sifu doing what I aspire to in how I now train.

This isn't "traditional kungfu". It's good martial arts yes. But it's not traditional Chinese martial arts. It's BJJ and grappling. Nothing wrong with that. I like to train it myself. But it is what it is, and it's not what it's not.

And Uki... it's far from useless bro. You take that sort of grappling skill, mix in some Kino Mutai (biting and gouging skill) like Paul Vunak teaches (sortof like your "tiger" thing) and you have dynamite stuff.

[dirtyrat]

[QUOTE=Eddie;979064]how do one get 4 black belts? 4 different styles of jj? Did you start at white belt with all 4 of them?/QUOTE]

I think he might mean 4th degree.

[uki]

Originally Posted by dimethylsea

And Uki... it's far from useless bro. You take that sort of grappling skill, mix in some Kino Mutai (biting and gouging skill) like Paul Vunak teaches (sortof like your "tiger" thing) and you have dynamite stuff.

i hear ya, but i like twisting thorns... in that clip i saw so many opportunities to mangle the other person.

[Dragonzbane76]

LOL... this is called "fighting skills"??? looks pretty useless to me.

baited as usual. grappling as useless?, lol, have you ever actually done any grappling uki? besides the drunken brawl outside the trailer park with the police during the filming of COPS.

[uki]

Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76

have you ever actually done any grappling uki?

is this a trick question??

[taai gihk yahn]

Originally Posted by uki

LOL... this is called "fighting skills"??? looks pretty useless to me.

bro, w/all due respect, it's good grappling skill; some of it is obviously compliant, and obviously it does not contain elements of striking or the sorts of things that you favor; that said, it is a solid foundation on top of which these things can be added, if such is one's desire, because the basic principles of positioning, leverage, timing, key points of control, etc. are all there;

I can understand the perspective that it looks "useless", but having myself spent even just a short time experiencing that particular environment, I can appreciate why it is a useful skill set to obtain, even if one is not inclined to roll on the ground;

[uki]

Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn

bro, w/all due respect, it's good grappling skill; some of it is obviously compliant, and obviously it does not contain elements of striking or the sorts of things that you favor; that said, it is a solid foundation on top of which these things can be added, if such is one's desire, because the basic principles of positioning, leverage, timing, key points of control, etc. are all there;

I can understand the perspective that it looks "useless", but having myself spent even just a short time experiencing that particular environment, I can appreciate why it is a useful skill set to obtain, even if one is not inclined to roll on the ground;

thank you for your input... perhaps i should clairify "useless", which is not being in the actual skill itself, but the fact that in these clips, it shows them that they work in a civilized enviroment... i believe it's a bit mis-leading.

[dimethylsea]

Originally Posted by uki

i hear ya, but i like twisting thorns... in that clip i saw so many opportunities to mangle the other person.

Uki,
Are you familiar with BJJ's positional dominance theory?

I.e. the various mounts and so forth?

[uki]

Originally Posted by dimethylsea

Uki,
Are you familiar with BJJ's positional dominance theory?

I.e. the various mounts and so forth?

are you familiar with it doesn't matter if your face is torn off?? lose blood... lose life.