Green Cloud (Wizard of Oz) vs. KF

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

Is there any way to remove my name from this thread, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ME

Here ya go Dave. Don't say I didn't ever do anything nice for you

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz

This all started when knife tried to instigate a fight between me and dragon warrior, the stupid thing is me DW know each other... but stop implying that you know him personaly and that he is supposed test me out.

Dude... he is a BJJ purple belt who runs a BJJ school. Testing people out on the mat is what he does. It doesn't matter if you know or don't know each other.

I suggested you roll (btw, if you really did have the grappling ability that comes from training with and against other grapplers, you would have known that rolling does not mean fighting) with him to see what a mid-level BJJ'er could do to you, as I think your perceptions of your grappling abilities are highly overrated.

Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz

... to answer KF we have worked out if you want too ask the guy about my abilities go ahead...

If you have already rolled, then I stand corrected and I will ask.



Dragon Warrior-
Have you rolled with the Wizard here, and, if so, what level would you say his grappling abilities are?

[Water Dragon]

Originally Posted by Knifefighter

Dude... he is a BJJ purple belt who runs a BJJ school. Testing people out on the mat is what he does. It doesn't matter if you know or don't know each other.

Remind me never to train with that guy. I want to work with people who will train me, not test me.

[Green Cloud]

At the time we never took it to the ground, but we were in no way point fighting. Rolling Jiu jitsu is not the world you are assuming that someone can actualy get me to the ground with out getting knocked out and none the less I'm very comfortable on the ground always have been.

As of now I have to fight stand up since rolling as you say is not an option for me since I just had a hip replacement.

How many times do I have to point that out but than again you already know that my cunning little troll.

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by Water Dragon

Remind me never to train with that guy. I want to work with people who will train me, not test me.

If he is your instructor, that's part of how he trains you. He not only watches as you test yourself against others of your own, as well as higher and lower levels. He also rolls with you to test you and see how your are progressing.

Everyone is always testing both their abilities and their training partners' abilities. That's built into the whole sparring and competition culture of BJJ.

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by Green Cloud

At the time we never took it to the ground, but we were in no way point fighting. Rolling Jiu jitsu is not the world you are assuming that someone can actualy get me to the ground with out getting knocked out and none the less I'm very comfortable on the ground always have been.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

My job is done here folks. Thanks for stopping by.

[Water Dragon]

But that's not what you're implying. You gave me a negative impression of the guy. Actually, you give the sport a negative impression to the crowd who doesn't train in the sport. Unfortunately, you are many people's only impression of the sport. Are you hurting or helping BJJ by posting these things?

I don't wanna say, "Knifefighter is bad for the sport", but I think you get my drift.

[lkfmdc]

Originally Posted by Knifefighter

Here ya go Dave. Don't say I didn't ever do anything nice for you

Thanks Dale, appreciated....

[Green Cloud]

Sorry Ross I didn't mean to steal the spot light from your stupid fight, venturing onto the Negron vrs. Ross fight is what got me into this mess.

Anyway I will fight Dale when I am able to if it means that I have to travel to LA.

This is just an issue of time and money not to mention that Dale is inflexible about wher we will fight. I mean hell I might as well order a pizza and deliver it to your house.

dale will now respond by saying you issued the challenge ha ha like I'm supposed to be updated on where this private malitia cult is being held.

Do I want to roll with Dale sure but I don't hate Dale like Ross hates Negron, I'm sure if it was the other way around and Dave had to fight Negron in LA he wouldn't do it even though they are mortal enemies.

As far as my abilities ask Dragon Warrior if I'm the type of guy that's afraid of a challenge.

In fact ask anyone who is in the tri state area ask them if they take me litely when it comes to stuff like this.

Dale I know your like a vampire and I invited you in but I'm not going broke to fly somewhere to fight a nobody unless it coincides with something productive.

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by Water Dragon

But that's not what you're implying. You gave me a negative impression of the guy. Actually, you give the sport a negative impression to the crowd who doesn't train in the sport. Unfortunately, you are many people's only impression of the sport. Are you hurting or helping BJJ by posting these things?

I think this type of attitude is what upholds the integrity of BJJ overall. BJJ has always been about testing things out.

The first thing just about any BJJ guy will say to someone who doesn't roll but claims they are "hard to lock out" is to stop on by to roll and test this out.

[Knifefighter]

Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz

I invited you in but I'm not going broke to fly somewhere to fight a nobody unless it coincides with something productive.

Would you fly here to fight a "somebody"?

[Green Cloud]

Dale don't change the subject Listen the fact is I made a mistake by not biting my tonge when you provoked me and I asked to fight you thinking that it would be at a suitable location for both of us.

If you and I had the bad blood that Dave and negron have I still wouldn't fly out there unless you slept with my wife or stole money from me or something.

[Green Cloud]

You don't think that Negron NAAA what am I thinking

[lkfmdc]

Gus, if you want to make an arse out of yourself arguing with Dale, I asked NICELY that I don't have anything to do with it. Dale seemed to get it, why can't you? Again, I strongly suggest you mind your own business, you certanly have your own hands full talking about your various skills in jujitsu, stick and knife fighting. Oh, and Pankration, I almost forgot about that one. Simply put, I don't wnat to be associated with your comments on this and many other threads. Thanks, now please don't try and drag me into your crap

[Dragon Warrior]

Should I feel responsible for this?

Anyway, I have heard from other martial artist in NY that Sifu Gus was a badass that consistantly backed up what he said.

Yes, he did come on the floor and spar with me right after his hernia surgery. (I thought that was a bad decision by the way!)


Water Dragon,

I dont see how knifefighter has "hurt the sport" of bjj, or gave a negative impression of me by his statements on this thread. When we are "testing" each other in training, it is 95% of the time, a positive thing.

Also, if I meet a person or martial artist who claims to have trained in some kind of grappling I always invite them to my class (to "test" them). Usually my white belts control them and tap them out over and over again. They either say (as I did), "**** I've been training for years and I am getting my ass kicked by white belts. I have to learn this stuff." Or they never come back either because their heads are to big to put a white belt on and get their asses kicked for a few months, or some other lame reason.

Anyway, Sifu Gus, if you really want to fight Knifefighter, I suggest you wait till you are healed up, and then do a little rehabilitation first. What's the point of going somewhere to fight if you cant fight at your full potential. Also, you dont want to put yourself into a position where you can get hurt and be out of commission for a long period of time.