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11-30-2005, 01:24 AM
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Defense against Thai Boxing and other clips
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11-30-2005, 04:12 PM
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I wasn't able to open the Muay Thai defense vids (unable to get the right codec for them), but I watched two of the anti-wrestling takedown technique clips. -Neither one of them are good ideas, IMO.
The first technique (application 7) might prevent an initial shot, but would leave your leg exposed and put you in a very vulnerable position for the grappler to "turn the corner" and take you down by driving in the 10 o' clock direction. The second technique (application 8) is so obviously flawed that even a completely untrained person could see that the silk pajamas guy would be flat on his back and quickly side-mounted if his demo partner hadn't abruptly stopped his forward momentum to let him apply the counter....... No way that a complex motion like that is going to work, -especially if you try it at such a late stage in the attack. Was anyone else able to view the clips about defending against Muay Thai? -L
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11-30-2005, 04:29 PM
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I can't, but just looking at the still pic, the guy's clinch is wrong. His hands are incorrectly positioned...
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11-30-2005, 10:43 PM
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I don't think Wing Chun is so limited that I can't do it when I wrestle, box, kickbox, or fight by MMA rules, nor am I so limited a student that I can't improve by training in each of those forums. -Andrew S A good instructor encourages his students to question things, think for themselves and determine their own solutions to problems. They give advice, rather than acting as a vehicle for the transmission of dogma. -Andrew Nerlich
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11-30-2005, 11:43 PM
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from what I saw---the guys that supposedly were thai boxers--sure didn't move, kick, or punch like one.
So who blocks a full knee attack with head clinched using their wrist? WHO?! That is pathetic.
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11-30-2005, 11:50 PM
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Try this to view them all.
http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Pl...-10410655.html I use VLC Media Player to play files that normaly don't open for me. Phil
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12-01-2005, 05:43 AM
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That muaythai04 clip was not a particularly good defence against knees or the clinch.
Just lifting your arms like that is not going to break the guy's grip that easy. (Thanks to Phil for the viewer software recommendation)
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12-01-2005, 09:41 AM
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I get it... it's like Kung Pow or Kentucky Fried Movie or Kung Fu Hustle or those Peter Young clips or something right?
 . . . This is a spoof, right? Right? Tell me this is a spoof... Somebody better tell those kids or someone's gonna wind up dead! 
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12-01-2005, 04:02 PM
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Reality ?
If you want to practice for fighting/sparring a boxer at least use a boxer or someone with more background in said style.....
By the looks of it they never heard the term "throw punches in bunches" and the range seems very far to me. I spar with a very competent boxer and its a little more 'trickey' than what they are preparing themselves for there IMHO. To be fair they could be beginners for all i know ???
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12-01-2005, 08:58 PM
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The good news is I can now play all the videos, the bad news is I can now play all the videos. 
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12-01-2005, 09:23 PM
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Liddel's on the nail, although I could only actually stand to watch the 'boxing' one. 1) They don't have any boxers there. 2) They've never seen a boxing match. 3) They are using the famous kungfu standard, the 'attacking' from 'outside the need-to-get-a-bus range'. 4) The putting your hand up like you're directing traffic (but traffic cops actually move their hands) is a guaranteed way to stop any attack... especially as... 5) This method has proven effective against battalions of people who are foiled into being only capable of attacking one stationary target... usually they are arthritic. 6) Maybe they are only beginners, carefully practising the way to get your ass handed to you on a plate. 7) What exactly is the guy in the red silk pajamas doing? I guess he's some kind of teacher figure, despite the fact that he appears to be walking into the near distance talking and waving to himself. 8) If they were my students I'd be walking into the very far distance.
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