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Old 07-12-2005, 10:54 PM
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sparring question

I have a fear when sparring. When I move forward to attack, I'm afraid of getting a front kick, front stomp kick, or any kicks coming at me when I come forward. How do you guys deal with this?

Like I was sparring with my friend and I moved in to do a step punch and he kicked and it could have hit in my the balls or round house fast enough. What can I do? Thanks.
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:50 AM
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Sorry, no easy answer. Train hard and spar more.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:32 AM
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Hi wind draft,

From your question it sounds as if you are a novice. I felt a lot of uncertainty when I first began to spar as well! All it really takes is time and practice!

Here are some hopefully helpful tips though:

1) One of the problems with sparring is that it tends to train the mind that you have lost if you are scored upon and this is a detrimental attitude when fighting in real life. Sometimes you have to take a punch to give a punch. When I spar I never acknowledge a score from my opponent. This is not considered good etiquette, but that is how I learned to avoid a defeatist attitude. So try not to be preoccupied with the opponent scoring points on you.

2) Don’t attack without a preceding feint of some kind. This takes practice. The goal is to pretend you are attacking or perhaps actually attacking an area other than your intended target to create a response and therefore an opening in the opponent’s defenses that will allow you to attack. It takes time and practice to perform this effectively. In time your opponent will wise up to your feints, so you must vary them. Don’t be afraid to continue feinting until an opening occurs.

3) Try to relax and have fun! Learn to develop the attitude of calm indifference. If you try too hard to score or win that emotional attitude causes a weakness in your performance. Your mind becomes focused on the points and not on your actions. Consider your goal to improve your ability and try not to become preoccupied with winning. Improving performance increases the probability of winning.

Here is something to try:

Determine which actions by you prompt your partner to execute a front kick. Experiment with a few actions to see which ones cause him to front kick. You have just discovered a weakness in his attack. You can now make him front kick or frequently make him front kick just by performing your action. Then devise an effective response to his front kick like an arm sweep, or lunge forward to jam the kick. Then perform your responsive attack.

I hope this helps a little. Good Luck!!
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:17 AM
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I have a fear when sparring. When I move forward to attack, I'm afraid of getting a front kick, front stomp kick, or any kicks coming at me when I come forward. How do you guys deal with this?

Like I was sparring with my friend and I moved in to do a step punch and he kicked and it could have hit in my the balls or round house fast enough. What can I do? Thanks.
LOL castration. It sounds like you're new to kung fu, maybe kick boxing or some mma.
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:44 AM
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turn your stance sideways, don't square up, drill jamming kicks.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:04 AM
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turn your stance sideways, don't square up, drill jamming kicks.
Just jump the low kicks and duck the high kicks. anything in between a fore arm block will be enough.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:11 AM
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B9 is correct about using the side to face the opponent.

You may Gua the kicking leg or sweep down one of your forearms laterally to the side to fend off the kick. And move in with your attack or throw by moving your rear foot forward.

You may use both hands to "catch" the leg and swing it upward or sideway to make him fall. You still approach from the side.

B is correct about faking a move. Usually, you want to attack high, you fake a low kick. If you want to attack mid or low, you fake a high right punch and proceed with a left mid punch or low kick to the knee.

etc.

You may also raise your knee and rotate your leg inward or outward to fend off a frontal kick to your groin and then kick his supporting leg with the same foot.

If the opponent kick high, you go low in a squatting stance and do a leg sweep or scissor cut his supporting leg.

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:31 AM
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SPJ is correct. If you don't know, Gua means Shave the leg.

You'll never get over that feeling of nervousness, but you can use it to your advantage. It just takes some experience. Don't think about what your going to do if... Just train for specific situations. Against kicks train your "gua" and 'go". This means to shave or hook. A rule of thumb is if you want to kick show the hand, if you want to punch show the leg. If this guys is just kicking at you, do not step back. Jam in and try to hook the leg. Don't stop there, keep going!!! A "gua" (shaving motion) will dump him on his ass.

To train this, have a partner with a shina (bamboo sword) swing at you from any direction a kick can come from. Kicks are a lot slower than the bamboo. Either hook and shave or shave and hook the bamboo. If you miss, there is still some conditioning benefit.

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:47 AM
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If you are afraid when sparring you and your partner must be using too much speed and power. Slow down and tell your partner to do the same. My teacher always says you fight to win but you spar to learn. Meaning you should be going slow enough to try out new techniques without the fear of it going wrong and getting whacked for it. Otherwise you will only stick to what you know and not learn anything new. As you get better then you can go faster but you should always feel safe and comfortable.

Also, you may want to buy a groin protector. I got kicked in the groin a few days ago and it wasnt fun.

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Old 07-13-2005, 10:02 AM
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Right, coax the kick out, but move laterally or stay out of range. Then as he puts his foot down, rush in and attack. Or, kick first.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:39 AM
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Thank you for your advices. I have tried stepping in with my step punch while raising my leg to clash against his kick but sometimes his kicks are just too fast when i move to punch and this is going slower than our full speed. I guess I'm just gonna keep practicing. Thank you again. By the way, I study CMA. It's called Baat Ying Baat Faat, eight animals eight methods. It's a neoclassical of choy lay fut with some hung ga, wing chun, and some northern influences. Some may think this is chop suey but i know it works.

Is there anything wrong with learning a style that someone recently made up in the 70s? My Dai Sigung learned Choy lay fut from his father, and learn hung ga, wing chun, and some northern kicking and other influence and came up with his style. I don't know how other traditional chinese martial artists view on this. THanks.
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:53 AM
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When someone is kicking, step to the side and close the gap. Also fight closer in general. Most kicks need distance to be effective.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:05 AM
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Hi mate,

When i first started to spa i felt very much the same as you do, first thing i got was a groin guard!! felt so much more confident with this on. This will take away alot of your anxiety for moving in fast and direct. Try to spa sideways on more and move in hard on your oponents kick resulting in them either being knocked off balance or floored. Ask your sparing partner to do a few practice kicks at a reality spead but controlled enough not to cause you damage, see how your reactions are to this and then improve from there onwards.

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Old 07-13-2005, 07:01 PM
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There is really nothing one can say without adding "in a certain situation" it comes down to fundamentals. Every attack has a counter.

Shaving the leg, great

Attack the leg with hands, or kick it when it comes up - agressive jamming.

Use timing - people need a certain stability to kick, move, get them to move and attack them in their move before they establish the stability.

Overpower. Fundamentally, a man on two legs can over power a man on one leg, learn how to make that work.

A lot of this comes under the heading of "Ring craft" not the actual techniques, but the management of the engagement.

The first challenge faced by many novices is to make your opponent less confident that you are a "walk over."

It all comes of practice.
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Old 07-15-2005, 08:20 AM
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There is really nothing one can say without adding "in a certain situation" it comes down to fundamentals. Every attack has a counter.

Shaving the leg, great

Attack the leg with hands, or kick it when it comes up - agressive jamming.

Use timing - people need a certain stability to kick, move, get them to move and attack them in their move before they establish the stability.

Overpower. Fundamentally, a man on two legs can over power a man on one leg, learn how to make that work.

A lot of this comes under the heading of "Ring craft" not the actual techniques, but the management of the engagement.

The first challenge faced by many novices is to make your opponent less confident that you are a "walk over."

It all comes of practice.
he might be getting into sparring too early.
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