Ving Tsun Life?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Ving Tsun is not really for fighting. It is for self-defense. You learn Ving Tsun so you don’t have to fight. If your Ving Tsun life is correct, you don’t need to fight. If you don’t understand that, I’ll see you next year when your kung-fu is better and then maybe you’ll understand.[/quote]

Many well known sifus have been in fights, including the late Wing Chun Grandmaster Yip Man. Isn't that contradictory to the quote? What is Ving Tsun Life?

who said that? maybe they should pay a visit to the rougher parts of town, and try to "avoid" getting into fights.

tits.

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

Wing Chun is for fighting. We have other things to keep us from fighting.

Ving Tsun is not really for fighting. It is for self-defense. You learn Ving Tsun so you don’t have to fight. If your Ving Tsun life is correct, you don’t need to fight. If you don’t understand that, I’ll see you next year when your kung-fu is better and then maybe you’ll understand.

that is stupid...It was created for fighting.People can use it for what they want,but it is a brawling art...

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky's main man...

Kind of like people who take martial arts but doesn't like fighting.

"Americans don't have the courage to come here," Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban


There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change; it is, 'To use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time.' Patton

That is a term that Moy Yat used to like as a goal for his lineage members to follow, if memory serves.Possibly Confucian foundation- honoring teacher and elders , concern for relatives and not being quarrelsome....?

No one can say wing chun was not created for fighting.

If a person wants to use it for something else...then thats great!!!

But they can never say it was not made for fighting...

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky's main man...

that is moy yat quoted from the beny meng museum website.

Why do people make it sound so hard to NOT get into fights?

Just because you have a weapon does not mean that you have to use it. If you already know that you can win in a fight, what is the purpose in fighting?

Of course Wing Chun, along with every other martial art, was designed for self-defense. It's intended purpose was not for people to go out and fight just because they can.

Kevin
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Continued blessings in your life and your training.

The key to understanding is to open your mind and your heart and then the eyes will follow.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Ving Tsun is not really for fighting. It is for self-defense. You learn Ving Tsun so you don’t have to fight. If your Ving Tsun life is correct, you don’t need to fight. If you don’t understand that, I’ll see you next year when your kung-fu is better and then maybe you’ll understand. [/quote]

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He did say Ving Tsun is for self-defence, so he is NOT saying the VT is not for fighting!

Substitute "fighting" for "picking fights" or "ego-driven fighting" and you will then be able to read the quote in the context I'm sure the author intended!

Max

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I think it meant that wing chun is a righteous art only to be used for self defense and not violence. When you are not violent, you are less likely to get into fights unless you are in a kung fu movie. Relax people it is only a quote from a dead guy.

bao

how bout fighting for justice?

It's like fu(king for virginity.

Max

I cannot find the quote you speak of on the musuem's website, so, currently, I would not be able to place it in its proper context. Could you email the whole article to me?

If that is all of the quote available publicly, here are my thoughts: My sifu did not speak of a "Ving Tsun Life," he spoke of a "Kung Fu Life." What is that? A simple analogy may shed some insight:

Suppose you really like soccer: You play on a team, follow the other teams, practice a lot, meet the other players, talk, exchange ideas, have books and posters, always wear the team jerseys, etc.

If, for no other reason than they are around you a lot, don't you, at least, try to be cordial, and possibly, helpful to your teammates, your fans, your coaches, and even, the other teams in the league? If the net on the goalpost got shreded in the last storm, doesn't the group, collectively, try to figure out how to fix it and/or replace it? If the field badly needed mowing and you know someone with a mower, what are you going to do? If you come across one of the opposing team's coaches at the shopping mall and his car won't start, are you going to say "see you next game" and leave him stranded there?

Now, when you need your living room sofa moved, who are you going to call? When you take a break, what are you going to talk about? When you're done, do you think there's a chance you guys will go outside and kick around a soccer ball?

If you had to call that something, the name "soccer life" is as good as any other.

While it may seem odd to some, experience has shown me that a lot of people, for whatever reason, have a blind spot if you try to explain this in the context of Kung Fu. Maybe it was the culture, but in Hong Kong, my sifu never had to explain the concept to anyone. So, Moy Yat tried to get people to understand in the U.S. by speaking of the "Kung Fu Life." Still, some people think it's some mysterious, secret, sacred thing. Actually, it's just life - one that helps others through hard work. It has nothing to do with fighting, Kung Fu, Confucious, or overthrowing the Manchus.

Regarding whether getting into a fight is a contradiction if you agree with your quote excerpt, the only answer I see is that it it depends why it happened and what brought you there. However, so what if a person got in a fight and they believe, perhaps, they shouldn't have. People aren't perfect. With a little luck, that person learned a good lesson from the encounter.

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