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Old 02-11-2001, 05:05 AM
kungfu cowboy
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anyone know where I could buy a good wall bag?

I want to buy one or make one. Anyone know of a good place to buy one? Can they be easily handmade, or is there a certain way to pack them? Thanks!
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Old 02-11-2001, 05:33 AM
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We've got 'em

Check out the "Supplies" section at

http://www.wckfc.com

We've got 'em for sale.

"Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous." -- Confucious
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Old 02-11-2001, 06:07 AM
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Im not trying to shoot down your busness watchman but isnt 20 bucs a bit to much for a wall back....Just go get one at www.allblackbelt.com when i got mine i thnk it was iether 9 or 14 i dont remember how much it was.
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Old 02-11-2001, 06:09 AM
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O,and watchman...ive been to your site before i joined this forum..its very good...keep it up,and chek out my homepage...
www.expage.com/joeswingchunkungfupage


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Old 02-11-2001, 07:08 AM
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Thanks For the comment Joe. I'll pass it along to my "Web Boy".

I've never comparison shopped wall-bags before so I don't know if $20.00 is pricy. I do know that the Council's wall-bags are pretty durable -- I've had my personal one for six years now and it's still holding up. If you can find one cheaper, go for it.

"Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous." -- Confucious
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Old 02-11-2001, 07:55 AM
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Watchman

This is kinda off topic but i was wondering how often you use your wall bag...how many times a day do you punch it?and im also curious how hard a wall bag should be...i forgot to ask my sifu because his is hardser then mine...he has one with rice in it and one with sand in it...i have rice in mine right now.


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Old 02-11-2001, 08:41 AM
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Joe: I use my wall-bag almost every day, but in different ways than just puching against the wall. Also, I only use rice in it (which is the best way to practice subhydroshock power - sand doesn't give you the penetrative effect). When punching against the wall I fill it at little mroe than 3/4 full and do a minumim of 1000 punches to practice penetrating power. I also practice by laying the wall-bag on something about waist height and dropping my fist or palm into it to develop sinking power with full relaxation. Additionally, you can use it at about half full and toss it in the air alternatingly seizing it with your fingers to practice Biu Tze's thrusting power to attack pressure points and gain power in the hands for joint wrenching, etc. A fun partner exercise is to toss the bag back and forth doing the same thing.

"Learning without thought is labour lost; thought without learning is perilous." -- Confucious
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Old 02-11-2001, 08:46 AM
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Watchman

Thanks...you learne under Yip Ching rite...well my sifus name is John Kaufman..i dont know if you know him but hes good freinds with Marty Anderson..if you dont know him he was the first wite student of Tsui Sheung Tin...just seeing if you know any of some of the poeple i look up to.My sifu worked with Yip Ching alil bit so i figured you might know him.

Joe :cool:
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Old 02-11-2001, 09:17 AM
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Actually, I don't train under Ip Ching per se. My sifu (Ron Heimberger) is a personal student of his, so that makes Ip Ching my SiGung. Ip Ching has been out to teach seminars for us (and he's coming to smack us around again in May), so that's where I've gotten my experience training with him. Just wanted to clear that up.

I'm sure Ron knows the guys you mentioned (or at least has met them). He went on a trip out to Ohio a couple of years ago to hang out with Ip Ching, Ip Chun, and Tui Shing Tin. He said Tui Shing Tin was quite the prankster and had fun playing with Ron's limited Cantonese.

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Old 02-11-2001, 05:28 PM
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I like the wall bags Wing Lam sells. I fill mine with mung beans but I know a couple of guys who use aquarium gravel.

Martial Joe-Good site but I think "A Lifetime" should be a choice on the mini-quiz ;)

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best not to speak of polite hands.
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Old 02-11-2001, 08:28 PM
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Steel shavings

I knew a kid back in the day who worked for a steel fabricating outfit and filled his wall-bag with steel shavings. He'd wrap his hands and pound on the bag until his knuckles bled.

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Old 02-11-2001, 10:09 PM
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If you dont go through years of conditioning with rice and sand cant you get arthritis from hiting something so hard?

Joe :cool:
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Old 02-12-2001, 12:33 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure you can. This kid also liked to hit his own shins with coke bottles filled with sand. He's probably a parapalegic by now.

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Old 09-04-2001, 09:02 AM
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coke bottles filled with sand? Do you mean plastic coke bottles? Because glass ones wouldn't make a difference if they were filled with sand or not.
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:00 AM
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sure it would dude

they'd be heavier.
Still sounds like a dumb thing to do.

Plastic would be safer too, but "safe" is soo relative when bashing yourself in the shins.
ouch.
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