I hate wannabe thugs

[norther practitioner]

is to set out each night and engage in brawls with street gangs down in 5 points.

lol, for those of you that don't know, 5 points is concidered our bad part of town... not that it is too bad, but whatever... Watch the cryps episode of South Park.

LOL, this was in Capital Hill, 10th and Corona to be precise.

[rogue]

And I didn't.... with what mindset, I don't quite understand.. I'm pizzed I saw that go down, tell me you wouldn't like to square up with someone like that one on one after you see them be such a punk.

From your story IMO you didn't really want to get involved, your mindset was to avoid confronting the thugs (smart) and avoid attending the victim. There is a lot of wishing, would ofs, almost grabbing, second guessing and turning away from the scene before you. Pretty normal reactions and I'd guess I'd do most of the same things. Hell I don't even think I would have thought about fighting them and would have kept a safe distance and just yelled that the cops were on the way. The one big problem I see is that you almost stepped into the situation but couldn't think of what to do, and that's what most dangerous to you. You seem to have had conflicting thoughts between wanting to help and avoiding the situation. That's normal behavior. Cops, firemen and rescue workers overcome that conflict by their training. I would have reacted in much the same way but it's a reaction and conflict we as martial artists have to be aware of in ourselves.

[rogue]

Ralphie it has nothing to do with honor, but it does have to do with walking into a situation half ass and getting hurt. Basics of self defense is awareness, losing track of the muggers is poor awareness. norther practitioner may have saved the guys life just by opening his car door and making the muggers know that they weren't alone anymore. What would you have done?

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by red5angel

You could have yelled that you were calling the cops, that may have helped? Especially from your window.

probably wouldn't have helped. I saw a guy beating a girl outside my window, and my wife yelled that she was calling the cops. He merely said "here, you can use my cell phone" and proceeded with his business. When he saw me running towards him, he ran away.

[SevenStar]

FWIW, I think you did right by not getting involved directly, considering the odds. Three assailants, and you had no idea whether or not they were armed. had you gone to help and and gotten KTFO yourself, then you would need someone to help you both. The one mistake I think you made was taking your eyes off the guy.

[Ralphie]

What would you have done?

It depends...I prolly would not have acted as NP did, but that's because I'm not him, and I wasn't there. The ideal would have been to call the cops, they show up 1 min later, and arrest the guys. Another would have been call the cops, go down with a baseball bat or staff, sneak up on them, and bash away. Another would to be to lure them close to my house and shoot them with my .357. We have make my day laws in Colorado, and that is perfectly legal. Another would be to make an obscene amount of noise from a safe place to scare them off, or if it draws them to my house see above. Is awareness and situational training beneficial? Yes. Will the reaction be different when the situation actually occurrs? Yes.

[SevenStar]

Also, I wouldn't call them wannabe thugs right off the bat. Attacking in groups is the typical thug MO. That's how they operate. surround you, hit you from the blind side, if you are wearing a big shirt or coat, pull it over your head, then beat the snot outta you.

[SevenStar]

LOL@ cops showing up 1 min later!

<public_enemy>

get up an get, get, get down/
9-1-1 is a joke in yo town...

</public_enemy>

[norther practitioner]

I had to go attend to the fact my girl had no idea what was going on, and was trying to get a cop there..... I needed to talk to the police officer on the phone, that whole thing took about 45 seconds, and when I looked last the person looked motionless on the ground, the three assailants were only 25 feet away at the time too, I didn't want them to come back.

[norther practitioner]

Also, I wouldn't call them wannabe thugs right off the bat. Attacking in groups is the typical thug MO. That's how they operate. surround you, hit you from the blind side, if you are wearing a big shirt or coat, pull it over your head, then beat the snot outta you.

Well, yeah, sorta... I'm more reffering to the I wanna be hard/ be in a gang, in a small city with little claims to make types.... I just had the overwellming fealing that they were doing this to prove something to themselves (that I also think they were doing the exact oposite) to get some street cred.

[Unmatchable]

You grabbed a pair of gloves in case you had to fight them in a streetfight? And you didn't do anything when they just walked away?

[SevenStar]

gloves are for protection, most likely. If he had to touch the guy for some reason, he didn't want the guy's blood all over him, as he had no clue if he had any diseases. They weren't for fighting the other guys.

[Unmatchable]

Everybody does what they have to to survive. As my thug friend says. Maybe they needed the money badly for some other reason? I mean how many people have the balls to assault some random guy on the street and steal his stuff, and risk chance of few years in prison? They usually have a good reason for crime.

[norther practitioner]

gloves are for protection, most likely. If he had to touch the guy for some reason, he didn't want the guy's blood all over him, as he had no clue if he had any diseases. They weren't for fighting the other guys.

7* has caught the correct so severely he only has a few hours left.

[Unmatchable]

Originally posted by SevenStar
gloves are for protection, most likely. If he had to touch the guy for some reason, he didn't want the guy's blood all over him, as he had no clue if he had any diseases. They weren't for fighting the other guys.

I get your point, but I thought he got them before the thugs left?