Why no respect....

[Suntzu]

... for San Shou?????....

i'm reading around... mma.tv... sherdog.... etc... everywhere they are bashing san shou... bashing Cung Le... saying the sport is boring... the rules are stupid(i remember the same being said for mma)... no one would pay for a PPV card... i understand that the sport is still young in the US... is the only way San Shou is gonna get respect is for Mike Norman to drop Duane Ludwig on his head.... or Pat Barry to KO Carter Williams in Las Vegas.... will san shou fighters only be able to make a name for themselves thru the MMA pipeline of KOTC... Ring of Fire and the like?.... i mean wtf?

[Shaolin-Do]

Most the MMA guys are too busy with the ***** shaking in the arses to think about what they say before they say it.
Most kung fu guys are too.
Sh!t most peopl in general are.

[ShaolinTiger00]

1.) most mma guys think muay thai is the supreme striking art.

2.) san shou is not widely known by the American mma public.

3.) for every guy that bashes it, there are 10 who think it's cool as hell

4.) Cung's opponents as of late have not made for spectacular fights.

5.) people just love to bash each other on the net

6.) people fear us

7.) Where the hell is Marvin Perry???????

[Shaolin-Do]

IME people who bash other styles generally are ignorant to what they are talking about...

[ShaolinTiger00]

I'll usually agree with that thought train SD, but when you've had experience in an art then "bash"....

[Shaolin-Do]

Oh I know, I bash on TKD all the time. I gots a BB in it.
Although I will say, my TKD instructor was pretty d@mn good with his hands. Id like to go spar him again sometime soon.

[Suntzu]

Marvin Perry vs Cro Cop?!?!?........ whoooooaa......

IME people who bash other styles generally are ignorant to what they are talking about...

i love the "i've only seen Cung's last 2 fights....... san shou is boring.... it has no good athletes....." ....

[Shaolin-Do]

JAMA in relation to MMA called cung "pound for pound the best fighter in the universe."

[ShaolinTiger00]

As good as Marvin is.. He's no Cro- Cop. yet..

[Ralphie]

I know how it could gain respect:

1) Start feeding your guys roids and pain killers
2) make .wmv clips of edited "non-boring" parts of fights with Pantera playing in the background.
3) Have your fighters who are hopped up on goofballs beat the crap out of lower tier mma and Thai guys.
4) Post the .wmv clips on different sites.
5) Use the clips as evidence of San Shou's superiority.
6) Put mma down, and scoff at things like the "flying triangle".

There you go, that's the recipe to gain respect from mulletheads in the midwest who wrassled a little in high school, and were in a "backyard wrestling" video as the guy who lights the prop table on fire right before the masked kid drops an elbow from the second story.

[Volcano Admim]

they dont respect cos you just do kickboxing + a few wrestling and call it a whole new chinese martial art or whatever

and MT is cooler

[brothernumber9]

get a clip of the 65kilo(i think) fight between the China B team fighter and the Korean kick boxing movie star dude at the 95 world wushu championships. That was the one of the most spectacular sanshou fights I've ever seen. I don't know where you can get footage, but if you can post it.

[Suntzu]

As good as Marvin is.. He's no Cro- Cop. yet..

i know.... but if all were equal.... it would be a great fight.... Marvin vs McDonald????.... vs Bob Sapp...lol....

Ralphie has the right idea.... Ross... Guru.... make it happen....

VA has bent over and been sodomized by the incorrect...... dry... and loved every minute of it.......

9.... for real???.... i'd like to see it myself....

[fa_jing]

Perry is a bit lighter in weight than Cro -cop, no?

[lkfmdc]

Because San Shou/San Da is the PERFECT art to **** off EVERYONE

MMA guys are basicly zombies, they only know four things
1. BJJ is best on the ground
2. Muay Thai is best standing
3. EVERYTHING ELSE must "suck"
4. When confronted with evidence that contradicts the above, become Cleopartra, Queen of DENIAL

Look at everytime a BJJ guy gets smacked around and look at the excuses.... They nearly had to be admitted to the emergency room for heart failure when the San Da guys TRASHED the Muay Thai guys...

The also have to be some of the dumbest bunch of geeks in the world today, basing an entire argument on ONE MATCH they saw

On MMA.tv a bunch of us listed guys Cung Le had KO'd. The Mongolian guy just KO"d a lumpinee Muay Thai champion IN THAILAND. The guy Cung KO'd in under a minute in Draka was a shootboxing champion who had also trashed a Muay Thai champion in Thailand. Arne that he fought in SHidokan is one of the best Kyokushinkai and Muay Tha fighters in the world.

One guy's resonse was the old 5th grade "no it didn't" argument. Since he hadn't seen the matches, they didn't happen, real genius

As for the so called "traditional" crowd here, well, you've been here for it all. Basicly, a lot of it comes down to a fundamental denial that while they claim to be training to fight, they aren't actually able to fight. Today, kung fu is literally the laughing stock of the martial arts world (another reason teh not so smart MMA crowd really HATES San Shou because they can't comprehend a Chinese based martial art being good for fighting)...

The more intelligent MMA people are seeing San Shou as a legit martial art, the so called traditional people would like to have that respect directed towards THEM....