Kung Fu Magazine: Your Source for Chinese Martial Arts

Go Back   Kung Fu Magazine Forums > Wai Jia: The Kung Fu Forum > Kung Fu Forum
Register FAQ Members List Social Groups Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-31-2003, 01:23 AM
psychojack psychojack is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 3
your knowledgeable advice, please...

in august i'll be moving to san fransisco (actually berkeley) for graduate school, which affords me (finally; i've been living in a small town with no place to train) the chance to train in a martial art. i've taken some superficial karate and tai chi in the past and had a blast (and really excelled in these low level classes; not sure how i'd do in more challenging settings, but i feel as though i'd make out alright), so i feel i'd enjoy delving more deeply into a style.

my question is what style should i delve into. now, before you get into a huff or tell to read the archive, i am NOT asking which style is best overall; i'm asking for your advice regarding which style i should look into given the information i'm about to give you. i have interests, i just don't know which style will play into them the best.

i'd like to learn something that will suit me well in a real life setting, although i do believe that any style can do just that if practiced long and hard enough. the better the pratical application, however, the more satisfied i'll be (i think). furthermore, i'd like something that teaches me to strike as well as to throw/grapple. i've considered cross training, but not sure i can afford this on a grad student salary. finally, i'd like to learn some sword play (i think sword katas are just beautiful), preferably samuari, but chinese long sword would be just as wonderful.

i am 5'9, lean build of 155lbs. i lift and run regularly. my left knee is somewhat weak; and old injury that comes and goes.

i'm sure this long ass email has left you bored or confused, but if at all possible, could you leave an explaination as to what style you think i should look into (even a bit of history would be welcomed if you feel up to it). i'll make sure to check often in case you have any additional questions you need answered.

thanks a million!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-31-2003, 06:36 AM
Judge Pen's Avatar
Judge Pen Judge Pen is offline
Daper Dan Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Knoxville Tennessee
Posts: 5,434
There's no easy answer without degrading into a "style v. style" debate. From reading your post, I'd look for a teacher that has cross-trained proficiently so you may pick up some of the traditional kung fu forms and the grappling that you seek. It doesn't sound like you intent is to be a fighter (like Shuai Chiao) so the choice of teacher is more important than anything.

BTW, the Japanese sword katas are pretty, but I don't think Iado would suit your needs exclusively. I'm not sure about another Japanese arts involving the sword. I know that Aikido trains with the bokken, but my opinions are mixed on Aikido.

Look around up there and ask questions about the styles/teachers that you are interested in here. They'll be plenty of disagreement, but at least you'll get plenty of opinions.

BTW, what are you studying in Berkeley?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oso View Post
AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-31-2003, 06:58 AM
Brad Brad is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: Worthington, OH, USA
Posts: 1,809
I'd say Baji, though I don't know if you'll be able to find that in Berekly ;-) There's well over 100 styles in wushu/kungfu. It'd be easier to just tell us what all's available to you so there's someplace to start...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-31-2003, 07:00 AM
Shaolin-Do's Avatar
Shaolin-Do Shaolin-Do is offline
I crush things.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,388
Ergh... Appears that there is lack of kung fu in berkeley...
How far is that from oakland and bay area?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-31-2003, 08:43 AM
yenhoi's Avatar
yenhoi yenhoi is offline
SevenStar groupie
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: Reno, Nv, USA
Posts: 2,835
Find the best teacher around that will teach you and learn from him.

__________________
strike!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-31-2003, 08:57 AM
No_Know's Avatar
No_Know No_Know is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Where ever I Am; today, West Virginia, US of A, NA, N of EUdMexico
Posts: 2,013
Aikido:

-there should be a club or class at the University

-they punch (though not learn to punch (you could incorporate seperate study of punches and use in that class)).

-they use wooden models of Japanese Samurai long sword.

-it can be applicable.
__________________
There are four lights...¼ impulse...all donations can be sent at PayPal.com to qumpreyndweth@juno.com; vurecords.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-31-2003, 10:19 AM
Mr Punch's Avatar
Mr Punch Mr Punch is offline
Homicidal puppet
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Behind you!
Posts: 6,168
Re: your knowledgeable advice, please

Boy, have you come to the wrong forum...
__________________
its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist

Sometime blog on training esp in Japan
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-31-2003, 11:55 AM
Cody Cody is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: where the unconscious speaks
Posts: 469
Send a message via AIM to Cody Send a message via Yahoo to Cody
There is no substitute for just observing, and pretty much asking yourself: "Do I want to do this?" And, you seem to have a broad spectrum of possibilities.
You have to watch out for yourself when it comes to that knee. Not all teachers are careful.
It's true that many styles might suit you, but it is the way the style is taught that makes a difference too. That's part of the trial and error process here.

There is a University of California Martial Arts Program at Berkeley. annual tournament there. I have no experience with the program, but that could be a good first stop for you.
http://www.ucmap.org
http://www.ucmap.org/clubs

Cody
__________________
"The truth is more important than the facts." (Frank Lloyd Wright)
"The weight of the sun doesn't keep it from rising." (Cody)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:05 PM
Merryprankster's Avatar
Merryprankster Merryprankster is offline
Furthr
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 6,190
Dude, you're in a wealth of MA.

Berkeley has a Judo Club.

Wally Jay is on Alameda.

There is BJJ to be had....

And one of the best San Shou teams in the nation is a bike ride from you in Oakland.

http://www.kungfu.net/

You can everywhere I just mentioned on your bike. And you'll want one, trust me.
__________________
"In the world of martial arts, respect is often a given. In the real world, it must be earned."

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. "--Bertrand Russell

"Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends of every country save their own. "--Benjamin Disraeli

"A conservative government is an organised hypocrisy."--Benjamin Disraeli
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:07 PM
Water Dragon Water Dragon is offline
Aaaargh, I'm a Pirate
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 4,567
There's also Daniel Weng, who teaches Shaui Chaio and a Li Tai Liang Xing Yi rep.
__________________
I have no idea what WD is talking about.--Royal Dragon
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:17 PM
Shaolin-Do's Avatar
Shaolin-Do Shaolin-Do is offline
I crush things.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,388
For a school listing just check out http://www.yellowpages.com and type in Berkeley california with Martial arts for business name.
Sure it wont come up with EVERYTHING, but it will give you a good idea of what you have to work with.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:21 PM
Judge Pen's Avatar
Judge Pen Judge Pen is offline
Daper Dan Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Knoxville Tennessee
Posts: 5,434
Quote:
Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
For a school listing just check out http://www.yellowpages.com and type in Berkeley california with Martial arts for business name.
Sure it wont come up with EVERYTHING, but it will give you a good idea of what you have to work with.
Wow SD, you're pretty resourceful when you're not stoned!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oso View Post
AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:23 PM
Shaolin-Do's Avatar
Shaolin-Do Shaolin-Do is offline
I crush things.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,388
"not stoned"?

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:27 PM
Judge Pen's Avatar
Judge Pen Judge Pen is offline
Daper Dan Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Knoxville Tennessee
Posts: 5,434
A bad assumption on my part. Sorry.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oso View Post
AND, yea, a good bit of it is about whether you can fight with what you know...kinda all of it is about that.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-31-2003, 12:28 PM
Shaolin-Do's Avatar
Shaolin-Do Shaolin-Do is offline
I crush things.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,388
Its ok
Ive actually cut my smoking down significantly.
Used to be 1 time a day. (all day everyday)

Now its just right when I wake up, and then again after kung fu.


(weekends of course all day everyday)


Edit: I dont fall into the "uhh... wheres the potato chips?" Stoners.
Im more in the "****... Im pretty ripped. Lets go to barnes and nobles" category.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.