Why is shuai chiao/shuai jiao so unpopular?

[carly]

Compared with other types of Chinese martial art, shuai chiao is little known.

It's very difficult to spell.

[dezhen2001]

as far as i have seen, most good systems of kung fu have grabbing, locking and throwing techniques as part of their skill (northern mantis for example, taijiquan and others). i know "shuai jiao" is a system in its own right also, but most systems have standing grappling and stuff as well. its of course a bit different but maybe thats why more people dont train?

dawood

[carly]

will soon meet to officially change the name, to be known as SJ henceforth, and it's gonna be bigger than J-Lo - look out!

[dezhen2001]

on top of that, its difficult to spell

dawood

[Water Dragon]

Honestly? Because you need the same mentality in SC that exists in the combat sports. Most people simply don't show up again after the first lesson.

[carly]

but few of them actually do practice those skills in such a way as to make them "live" and useful.

[ShaolinTiger00]

popular kungfu is often "pretty"

I'll let you judge the fighting value of "pretty".

[carly]

Yes, but JUDO and boxing somehow manage to attract students.

[carly]

must have wanted to learn the most fighting skills available to them, and been willing to suffer some pain to do so - why didn't more of them incorporate shuai chiao practice into their systems' training?
Was it a cultural aversion to wrestling?

Actually...

If you exclude variations on PRC forms and varied martial experience being falsely marketed as kungfu, you get rid of the vast majority of "kungfu" schools out there.

Once this is done, is SC really that much more rare than other TCMA styles? I don't think so.

So I think the biggest factor is that there's no SC PRC forms, and people falsely marketting stuff as kungfu aren't likely to claim it's SC, so you only encounter legitimate stuff, which makes it seem under-represented.

[dezhen2001]

xingyi isnt pretty... does that mean its not popular or can it maybe actually be used to fight?

is it just me or are we getting a bit of an echo in here?

dawood

[ShaolinTiger00]

but judo's sport rules have changed dramatically to favor the more exciting throws vs. groundwork.

Boxing - well chalk that up to man's nature to see two guys punch each other's heads..

[yenhoi]

I think it has to do with superior quality control.

Not everyone thinks its beneficial to have more students, or to teach just anyone anything.

[ShaolinTiger00]

but judo's sport rules have changed dramatically to favor the more exciting throws vs. groundwork.
Judo never gets the attention in the US that it does in the majority or the countries.

Boxing - well chalk that up to man's nature to see two guys punch each other's heads.. that's always going to be popular.