oldest style of mantis around

[xiao yao]

http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?

[mooyingmantis]

Originally Posted by xiao yao

http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?

I have seen this video before. Thanks for providing some historical reference.

[LaterthanNever]

Sifu Tolson,

Are you feeling allright? Someone posted that you were undergoing surgery.

Hope your recovery is a sound one.

Regards,
LTN

[mooyingmantis]

Originally Posted by LaterthanNever

Sifu Tolson,

Are you feeling allright? Someone posted that you were undergoing surgery.

Hope your recovery is a sound one.

Regards,
LTN

LTN,
Thanks for asking!
Yes, I had quadruple heart bypass surgery. Recovery is going well. I am teaching classes, but unable to do much myself physically yet.

[mooyingmantis]

Originally Posted by xiao yao

http://youtu.be/TxpH7oYsZ0I

I saw this video of Lin Tang Fang of Haiyang. Apparently his shifu was a disciple of Liang Xue Xiang, making it the oldest style of mantis. Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?

Perhaps you should try contacting Ilya Profatilova for information. He was the speaker in the commentary.

Here is his website:

http://www.mantisboxing.msk.ru/

[Tainan Mantis]

Originally Posted by xiao yao

Does anyone know anything about this system? What makes up the syllabus?

Third road of Beng Bu can be seen at 5:45 So, you can see how different, or similar it is to other schools, or to how you have learned it.

[Tainan Mantis]

I would like to hear Robert Hui's take on the Beng bu being so similar to his own and what he deduces from that.

The form at 8:05 (and again at 9:50) reminds me of Roberts dan zhai mei hua form.

Zhao Zhuxi's mantis, apart what Ilya does here, is the only one that shoots out the double punches on a semi regular basis.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by mooyingmantis

LTN,
Thanks for asking!
Yes, I had quadruple heart bypass surgery. Recovery is going well. I am teaching classes, but unable to do much myself physically yet.

It takes more than a bypass to keep the man down !!

[alextse4]

Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis

Third road of Beng Bu can be seen at 5:45 So, you can see how different, or similar it is to other schools, or to how you have learned it.

This section of bung bu is similar as our CKTaichi mantis.

[xiao yao]

thanks for the info

here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?

[mooyingmantis]

Originally Posted by xiao yao

thanks for the info

here is another video, which shows a section of something called "fumu quan" and then what i think is the opening of bengbu. just ignore the beginning where they are talking about the words eat and drink in haiyang dialect.....

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzk4NjExODI4.html

wasnt zhao zhu xi a classmate of wang guo dian? who did they learn from?

The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.

[Tainan Mantis]

Originally Posted by mooyingmantis

The basics are there, but that is a very different version of Beng Bu in the way he performs it.

He certainly favors the 闪 步 闪 肋 臂 as a throwing technique rather than as a "lifting yin" strike.

左 右 二 阴 阳 and 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌 are quite different. 左 封 右 叠 肘 is done quite low with a sinking power. While the end of the clip is fairly standard.

Like Alex said, it is like CKTaichi Mantis.
This version does not contain 左 右 二 阴 阳 or 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌

[mooyingmantis]

Originally Posted by Tainan Mantis

Like Alex said, it is like CKTaichi Mantis.
This version does not contain 左 右 二 阴 阳 or 左 右 低 叫 双 绑 掌

Thank you for the clarification! I guess I missed Alex's comment.