Conservatives are Prudes

[1bad65]

It's a rout in Virginia!

And Rove is hinting heavily at a clean sweep in the 3 big races: Virginia, New Jersey, and that NY Congressional seat.

[BoulderDawg]

The gay marriage thing is Maine seems to be going well in early returns. No matter what they say a state wide win on gay marriage would be huge for the cause. Also, how ironic it is that the party that claims to be for less government intervention into people's lives is the same one that is fighting tooth and nail for the governement to have a say into who and who cannot get married.

Also, Hoffman is losing. As a liberal this is not good news at all. I'd rather a strong neo victory here to cement Sarah Palin's leadership position and pull the party to the extreme right. However it looks like instead of that we might just be getting another blue dog.

[Drake]

BD, due to his inability to defend himself, validate his points, and revert to "NEO NEO!" whenever someone disagrees with him, has earned him yet another ignore. Now, pipe down, kid, and let the grownups continue their conversation.

1Bad, when dealing with economic recovery, the President is actually fairly powerless to do much about it without strong congressional support, which, IIRC, he did not have. For these exact same reasons, we are not coming out of the recession due to anything Pres. Obama is doing. It is a perfectly natural cycle, and most economics courses cover it as fact.

My only complaint with conservatives, when dealing with the economy, is how they are not willing to rein in corrupt business practices and wrangle out-of-control mortgage exploitation. In a way, their philosophy of "hands-off" business management allowed the crisis to occur.

On the flip side of this, government control is not advised either. We have our own retail store in the military, and they demonstrate firsthand what regulated commerce looks like, and it is UG-LY. I don't think bailouts or appointing CEOs is a good idea, because you will only make a bad situation worse. I've always thought of businesses as things that may have a lifecycle, and once they become unprofitable, they die and are replaced by a smarter business.

So, I'd say the self-destruction of the mortgage industry cleaned out a lot of unscrupulous individuals, while I have no doubt corruption continues to run rampant in other areas.

[BoulderDawg]

Well it looks like they sent Palin's hand picked candidate packing in up state NY.....Dam! Had I'd been there I would have voted for him myself.

The gay marriage is close in Maine but looks like it might go down. Of course Washington state has one too so let's see what happens.

On a side note: Thank God for Colorado! Breckenridge made marijuana legal tonight in a landslide! 72%!!!!!!! Hell yeah!!!!!!

[BoulderDawg]

So funny! I just heard that Hoffman guy speak. He pledged that he would "help" Bill Owens rebuild the economy..........

I don't really think that Owens wiil want the help of a man who called Glen Beck a "Mentor".

[Drake]

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Couldn't have said it better myself...

[BoulderDawg]

Another great quote by limby(speaking about Dierdre Scozzafava who was kicked to the curb by the neos in NY):

We can say she is guilty of widespread bestiality. She has screwed every RINO in the country.

That's cool! There is one thing for dam sure. No one...especially no female, is never going to accuse LImby of screwing anything!

She's got ya beat there dude!

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Drake

BD, due to his inability to defend himself, validate his points, and revert to "NEO NEO!" whenever someone disagrees with him, has earned him yet another ignore. Now, pipe down, kid, and let the grownups continue their conversation.

Agreed. He is back on ignore til he answers the questions asked of him. But hey, you can't blame him for being sour, last night was a bad night to be a liberal.

Originally Posted by Drake

1Bad, when dealing with economic recovery, the President is actually fairly powerless to do much about it without strong congressional support, which, IIRC, he did not have. For these exact same reasons, we are not coming out of the recession due to anything Pres. Obama is doing. It is a perfectly natural cycle, and most economics courses cover it as fact.

I disagree. Reagan got massive tax cuts passed quickly, and they had an immediate impact on the economy. Obama also immediately got his 'Stimulus' bill passed. It had an impact, just not what Keynesian followers predicted. Remember, conservatives predicted it would not work. We were right. While people can say that not enough time has passed, it really doesn't hold water when you see the unemployment numbers going up! Reagan didn't wave a magic wand and fix everything in a few months, but he got the numbers (interest rates, inflation) that were bad to improve in the mean time. Obama has failed to do this.

Originally Posted by Drake

My only complaint with conservatives, when dealing with the economy, is how they are not willing to rein in corrupt business practices and wrangle out-of-control mortgage exploitation. In a way, their philosophy of "hands-off" business management allowed the crisis to occur.

You need to watch this video. It shows the Congressional Republicans in 2004 trying to reign in the out of control practices in the mortgage industry. They failed because the Democrats used every trick in the book, including crying racism, to avoid forcing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to just open their books. You will notice many of these Democrats who said nothing was wrong and that the mortgage industry was fine are still in office!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Originally Posted by Drake

So, I'd say the self-destruction of the mortgage industry cleaned out a lot of unscrupulous individuals, while I have no doubt corruption continues to run rampant in other areas.

But sadly the elected officials (Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, etc) who allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to hide their books while the bubble was getting ready to burst are still in office.

[1bad65]

The Democrats lost a statewide election in friggin New Jersey badly. That is not a good sign. Even Juan Williams said that has to scare them, as New Jersey has been a safe state for them and is a part of the Democrat machine. And they lost, big.

The few races in 1993 trended Republican, but not as bad as last night. And 1994 was a slaughter for the liberals. Tom Foley, the sitting Speaker of the House, didn't even keep his Congressional seat! A sitting Speaker had not lost his seat since 1862! You could see the guys like Carville last night were terrified about 2010.

Obama carried Virginia last year with 52.6% of the vote. Last night the Republican candidate got 50% of the vote, the Democrat got 41%. That is an enormous 1-year swing.

[BoulderDawg]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

you can't blame him for being sour, last night was a bad night to be a liberal.

Every night is a good night to be liberal. As far as elections go, we might care if a liberal actually ran and had a chance to win.

The gay marriage vote was disappointing but it just goes to show you should not be able to vote on people's civil rights. If this was true blacks in the deep south would still be riding in the back of the bus.


As I mentioned neos are all for less government...so on and so forth. However when it comes to something they don't in then that's totally different.

My personal opinion: Marriage is a religious idea. The Constitution requires separation of church and state. The government should not sanction any form of marriage. If you want to get married you can do that in your own church. As far as taxes, insurance, inheritance, whatever, you should be able to enter into a legal contract with anybody, Lover, roommate, brother, sister, business partner...anybody.

[BoulderDawg]

Originally Posted by BoulderDawg

The gay marriage vote was disappointing but it just goes to show you should not be able to vote on people's civil rights. If this was true blacks in the deep south would still be riding in the back of the bus.

Don't believe that? Read this:

http://www.wreg.com/wreg-ole-miss-ch...,7729439.story

"glory, glory segregation, the south will rise again."

They are absolutely going nuts in Mississippi over this. The students and alumni have threatened to sing the lyrics even if the band does not play the song.

Not surprising however since there nickname is the "Rebels" and their mascot is an old plantation slave owner.

[1bad65]

Looks like the unempolyment rate just broke 10%

Remember, Obama promised that it would not break 8% if we did the 'Stimulus'. Just wait til 2010! You think the voters were mad on Tuesday, just imagine that plus millions more out of work and upset about the false promises of 'Hope' and 'Change'.

Things sure are 'Changing' though, more and more people are not working. Gee, who predicted these policies would fail......

[BoulderDawg]

Check this out:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The nation's unemployment rate rose above 10% for the first time since 1983 in October, a much worse jump than expected as employers continued to trim jobs from payrolls.

The reading, reported by the government Friday, is a sign of the continued weakness in the labor market even though the economy grew in the third quarter following the longest and deepest downturn since the Great Depression.

The government reported that the unemployment rate spiked to 10.2%, up from 9.8% in September. It is the highest that this rate has been since April 1983. Economists had forecast an increase to 9.9%.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that 2 and a half years into the Reagan admin? It seems I read somewhere in these pages that Reagan had turned the economy around within a year after taken office.....hmmmm...Boulderdawg stratches head!


Truth is most Americans, no matter what the politicains say, know that the economy is simply not going to turn around on a dime in the matter of a few months....at least I hope they are not that dumb.

In any case, Bush left us in such bad shape that there are no magic economy pills out there. The great depression took over a decade. Let us all hope it doesn't take that long to correct Bush's mess.

[BoulderDawg]

You know I look at this Michelle Bachmann and wonder just how she gets elected to her seat in congress. Left or right this lady is crazy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJGNICvi6gA

I've known a lot of women like this. She's not that bad looking and all her life she's been able to manipulate men to do pretty much want she wants. Now that she's in congress and given the fact that she's getting older that's a lot harder to do.

I'll really be surprised if she get re-elected next year...but hell I'll donate to her campaign. Everytime this lady open her mouth more people are leaving the Neo teabagger party!