Tcma skill set training

[RWilson]

Originally Posted by hskwarrior

i'd only answer you if you were seriously interested in becoming a student. but since you're a known TCMA hater......i'll pass.

Your answer is yours. If you cannot handle debate of that answer then by all means hide in a cave with your secret Kung foo. What are you afraid of in telling me? That I will say sport styles do it better? We all know that to be true so have no fear.

I am just tired of hearing that the traditional styles have it all when it comes to fighting when in reality most are styles specializing in specific skillsets. The fact that most here cannot even say what a potential fighter will be able to learn from tcma that is useful to him is telling.

What does clf specialize in? Please do not me tion forms like the Buddha palm.

[ginosifu]

SKILL SETS????

Do you mean developing a certain skill like Iron Palm? or is it more specific like training a certain punch?

Gongs or Skills are a major part of TCMA training. Lets take Phoenix Eye strike. The first part of the training is to hit your knuckle into bags (heavy bags or iron palm bags or wall bags etc). Continue this type of practice thruought your training. Next is to start aiming practice by placing a target on a bag (actually target can be anywhere) and try to hit it over and over again.

Next is to try it out is sparring class. Even though we where hand protection, I still aim my knuckle to certain areas of my sparring partner. Areas include chest or peck, thigh's or even armpit. No dangerous areas like temple or throat.

keep this up until you are good at hitting a target on the move.

RWilson..... why do you repeatedly attempt to put down TCMA? Are you close to Cleveland Ohio? Come see me so I can convince you. I really would to like to let you feel my Pheonix Eye.

ginosifu

[RWilson]

Originally Posted by ginosifu

SKILL SETS????

Do you mean developing a certain skill like Iron Palm? or is it more specific like training a certain punch?

Gongs or Skills are a major part of TCMA training. Lets take Phoenix Eye strike. The first part of the training is to hit your knuckle into bags (heavy bags or iron palm bags or wall bags etc). Continue this type of practice thruought your training. Next is to start aiming practice by placing a target on a bag (actually target can be anywhere) and try to hit it over and over again.

Next is to try it out is sparring class. Even though we where hand protection, I still aim my knuckle to certain areas of my sparring partner. Areas include chest or peck, thigh's or even armpit. No dangerous areas like temple or throat.

keep this up until you are good at hitting a target on the move.

RWilson..... why do you repeatedly attempt to put down TCMA? Are you close to Cleveland Ohio? Come see me so I can convince you. I really would to like to let you feel my Pheonix Eye.

ginosifu

Finally, a straight answer. Do you put te same attention toward other parts of the hand? If I went to Ohio I would go see a prostitute because there probably is not much to do over there.

[hskwarrior]

What does clf specialize in? Please do not me tion forms like the Buddha palm.

Buddha palms is just a form? there are NO buddha palms techniques? is just a form? is that what you're trying to tell me?

[RWilson]

Originally Posted by hskwarrior

Buddha palms is just a form? there are NO buddha palms techniques? is just a form? is that what you're trying to tell me?

I do not study clf. What is Buddha palms besides being a form?

[hskwarrior]

the above is a single strike using the open palm to the ribs. its found in our forms. But as you can clearly see, they aren't doing a form.

What was done here? Guy on right throws a punch to the face. guy on left steps in and used his lead hand to do a rising block while striking the ribs simultaneously.

* if you try to say anything to the effectiveness of it, if my hands can touch you i can palm you.

[RWilson]

Originally Posted by hskwarrior

the above is a single strike using the open palm to the ribs. its found in our forms. But as you can clearly see, they aren't doing a form.

What was done here? Guy on right throws a punch to the face. guy on left steps in and used his lead hand to do a rising block while striking the ribs simultaneously.

* if you try to say anything to the effectiveness of it, if my hands can touch you i can palm you.

So it is a palm strike. What is the big deal? Why call it Buddha palms?

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by RWilson

So it is a palm strike. What is the big deal? Why call it Buddha palms?

Because thats what its callled....why call a super man punch a superman punch? Are the guys doing it superman? No, but thats the name. Oh let me guess, everyone should change the name of a technique thats used that name for centuries because you dont like culture?

[RWilson]

Originally Posted by Lucas

Because thats what its callled....why call a super man punch a superman punch? Are the guys doing it superman? No, but thats the name. Oh let me guess, everyone should change the name of a technique thats used that name for centuries because you dont like culture?

You actully jump though when you do a superman punch so it is like you are flying in. The Buddha was an Indian prince who bevame enlightened and said to not have attachment to outcomes or objects as a way of being happy. Where the fuk is the correlation?

[ginosifu]

Originally Posted by RWilson

Finally, a straight answer. Do you put te same attention toward other parts of the hand?

Depends on the student / the teacher and the goals they have set for each other. Pheonix Eye focus on the index finger's knuckle. Other Gongs or Skills may focus on other hand parts.

The Fire Palm of the Angry Monkey style focus on the palm and back side of the hand for whipping strikes. You start by slapping heavy bags, Iron Palm Bags or Wall bags etc. As a child, do you ever remember kids slapping someone on their bare back (kidney area) and really whip slapping the kidney area to make it red? So you whip the bags in the same way focusing that same whipping power.

With the same training concepts as Pheonix Eye, you eventually try to apply it in saprring class. We used to slap box on purpose trying whip each other while sparring and trying to see if we could apply this whipping action.

There are hundreds of different examples of Gongs that are available to learn. From hand conditioning to jumping to Iron Body to Punching. Almost every type of fighting can be found in the different Gongs or Skills.

ginosifu

[TenTigers]

superman punch is actually fei charp choy in CLF and Fei Pao Choy (Flying leopeard/cougar) in Jow Ga.

[hskwarrior]

superman punch is actually fei charp choy in clf and fei pao choy (flying leopeard/cougar) in jow ga.
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yup flying chop choys, flying sow choys, flying elbow's......

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by RWilson

You actully jump though when you do a superman punch so it is like you are flying in. The Buddha was an Indian prince who bevame enlightened and said to not have attachment to outcomes or objects as a way of being happy. Where the fuk is the correlation?

use your brain. 'you actually jump through when you do a superman punch' use that same line of reasoning smart guy.



ever think that the people who first called it buddha's palm is because you form your palm in the same way you see so many images of buddha forming the palm? wow, i know, its a trip to be so logical huh? there 'the fuk' is the correlation. its a tribute to the buddha.

[TenTigers]

Originally Posted by RWilson

So it is a palm strike. What is the big deal? Why call it Buddha palms?

The form was called Buddha Palms as it was a form made up strictly of palm strikes with no closed fist, It was played "softer" more flowing, therefore evoking the hands of the Buddha.
As a result, Chan Heung (or whoever was the creator)was inspired to give it that name.
What's in a name?
Ask yourself this-why are you so hung up on this?
Let it go.
seriously. Grow up.

[ginosifu]

Originally Posted by RWilson

You actully jump though when you do a superman punch so it is like you are flying in. The Buddha was an Indian prince who bevame enlightened and said to not have attachment to outcomes or objects as a way of being happy. Where the fuk is the correlation?

Buddha Palm is a common name for many techniques using any palm strike. Palm strikes were said to penetrate into the opponents body and injur organs as the pic below demonstrates:



This is a palm strike to the liver and if done properly may cause bruising or even internal damage to the liver.

ginosifu