If you had to distill Northern Mantis into just 6 sets

[Royal Dragon]

If you had to distill Northern Mantis into just 6 sets, which 6 would you pick and why?

Also, what are the oldest known Mantis sets?

[taichi4eva]

Just wondering, Royal Dragon, why you picked the number 6?

I've read that the three original Mantis sets were bengbu, luanjie, and bazhou. Mantis108 has another interesting theory concerning Mishou, but I don't remember much, nor am I an expert on it. He would be THE mantis guy to ask!

[Royal Dragon]

Originally Posted by taichi4eva

Just wondering, Royal Dragon, why you picked the number 6?

I've read that the three original Mantis sets were bengbu, luanjie, and bazhou. Mantis108 has another interesting theory concerning Mishou, but I don't remember much, nor am I an expert on it. He would be THE mantis guy to ask!

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Actually I originally thought just 3, but I figured other's might not feel that is enough.

[Royal Dragon]

What is Taizu Duanda?

Any clips online?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hey RD, question:
Why did you choose the term "distill"?
Why not "streamline" or even simplify?

[Royal Dragon]

I don't really know. I am distilling rice wine this week, maybe the word is on my brain?

[Qixing Tanglang]

In the Qixing Tanglang family of Mantis, Beng Bu Quan, Shi Ba Shou, and Duo Gang are commonly cited.

The way Yu Hai's compilation is played today, it has nothing to do with Mantis fundamentals.

The forms Lan Jie and Ba Zhou are from Meihua Tanglang.

Cheers,
N

Edit: Dont know what other people think, but Beng Bu for me is definitely the most demanding form in terms of footwork, diversity of technique, and the amount of energy required to get through it.

[seung ga faat]

6 Essential Sets

1. Tong Long Baht Bouh Kuen- The complete CL Mantis Foundation Training
2. Bung Bouh Kuen- softness hidden in the hardness
3. Dou Gong Kuen- protecting and attacking over, outside, under and around the hardness
4. Sahp Baht Sao Kuen- 18 styles with a balanced training method
5. Mui Fah Sao Kuen- Petal attacks with wonderful throwing
6. Sahp Baht Lo Han Gung- outer-inner skill
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[Steeeve]

Northern praying mantis was the name used by GM Han Hon Fan ......Does the lineage are 7 stars or a blending of 7 stars ....the mui fa ....He neve rused the name 7 stars?????????and any books all is northern mantis

[Steeeve]

Spychomantis

Does because LGK have created a lot of forms in the 7 stars....What do you mean WHF dont have the right to used the name 7 stars....He came from LGK...

Maybe we could call that the Hong kong 7 stars mantis???

Steeve

[Mantis_Reborn]

Its no secret that WHF didn't receive the entire system, thus was not given the flag to teach under the 7 Star Flag and by no means is my statement to be taken as disrespect, WHF was a great Sifu.

[MantisCool]

WHF only used the term "Northern Mantis" because he always said our 7-star mantis incorporated Meihua and GuangBan. Therefore, I think that is why he prefered to used this term.

This has nothing to do with whether he has inherited the whole system or not. I would say he is the most qualified 7-star mantis sifu in HK during his period. If he is not qualified, he would not have been sent by LGY to teach in other Chin Woos in the late 30's.

Without him or CCM, the mantis kungfu would not have spread to US in the late 60's.

rgds
khoo

[Mantis_Reborn]

Wushu Sets Are U Kidding Me???

[gunglihchuan]

The six sets I would choose that define my mantis style (CCK Tai Chi Mantis are)

1. Bung Bu- Crushing Step, The first Northern mantis set created by Wang Lang
and the set that influenced all mantis material

2. Bah Zhao- Eight Elbows- This set is very long and is usually taught in two
parts. It focuses on the correct usage of elbow strikes.

3. Lan Jie Chuan- Intercepting and Deflecting Fist. This set expands on what
is learned in Bung Bu and Bah Zhao and concentrates on in
close fighting.

4. Lien Her Zhang- Six Harmony Palm. This set focuses on developmental
Northern Kung fu Skills, such as tornado kicks, broom
sweeps, and the scissors kick.

5. Yin Shou Gwan- Yin Hand Stick. This is the first staff set taught and it is
a very useful and practical set. It is traditional mantis
material not contemporary Wushu.

6. Bagua Lan Mun Dao- Guarding the Door Broadsword in Eight Directions.
This set is also supposedly created by Wang Lang
and teaches the broadsword techniques that he was
famous for.

Sincerely,
Steve

[Mantis_Reborn]

Take your wushu sets to the street and see what you get!!!!!!!

I didn't say wushu was bad, just not for real combat,

Wushu belongs in a protected environment, just like the point fighting, not used in real combat situations, its pretty and looks nice.. The 7 star mantis i live by works in real combat situations.

Originally Posted by Psycho Mantis

No.

Yu Hai and Kwei Ding are badass when performed correctly.

Just cause its new doesn't make it bad.

It was all new at one time or another.

Of course a lot of the Yu Hai sets I see performed at tourneys are quite watered down compared to the original version. And I could see not being interested in them. The version we perform is very traditional in flavor tho, and a **** good workout.