Iron Wire from of Hung gar

[fgxpanzerz]

I haven't learned this form yet. What have all of u, who have learned it, gained from practicing this form? What are it's benefits? How does it compare to the "internal" arts?

[urban tea]

I have learned the dragon portion of the 5 animals form.

The dragon portion is taken out of the iron wire form only that the iron wire form has more movements and other things.

At first when I learned the dragon portion, the "shaking" you see in Hung people was from my muscles.

I was using my muscles to do the form and the shaking. Now it's weird and more different. It's not muscle that causes the shaking anymore. It's the ging.

This shaking / tension is the expression of power that Hung uses. I hardly use any power now and the ging comes out more. Sometimes it's stronger sometimes its weaker.

As for internal arts, I don't know. Have you read YC Wong's website regarding the form?

I remember visiting his class one day and i saw him do tiger crane. His stuff actually LOOKS LIKE hung gar, the flavor.

I did not learn the sounds that go along with the dragon portion and these sounds are to excercise certain organs and stuff.

Deep stuff. Hard stuff to learn.


here's a cut n paste from YC Wong's website. (www.tigercrane.com)
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Tid Sin Kuen (Iron Thread Form)
This form was created by Tid Ku Sarm, one of the best martial artists in the history of China. He was one of the famous Ten Tigers of Kwangtung. Through the years he passed his knowledge of the set down to one of his students, Wang Fei Hung. This form is the highest set taught in the Hung Gar system. It takes the practitioner into the realm of internal Kung Fu training, which is the ultimate goal in Chinese martial arts.
Tid Sin's limited footwork is based solely upon the movements and spirit of the Dragon coupled with vibrating sounds and various intonations of breath control with twisting movements which stimulate the internal organs. Each emotion (Happiness, Anger, Sadness, Sorrow and Fear) is said to be translated into a breathing tone producing different vibrations, which affect different organs. From the breathing sounds comes a strong type of power, which is emitted from within the practitioner. There are twelve types of training methods contained in this form. They are Hard, Soft, Lineal, Isometric Contractions, Linking, Dividing, Supporting, Stationary, Circular Transition, Determination, Exactness and Immobilization. These twelve types of training are designed to control and improve the internal functions of the organs. It is a dynamic tension exercise used to increase the flow of Chi throughout the body. It is an efficient means of body building and stamina development.
The combined pugilism of the Tiger and Crane styles, otherwise known as Hung Gar Kung Fu, is a southern Shaolin system designed to strengthen the physical constitution (the bones of the body) as well as the sinews (breathing and spirit). It is a most respected system whose training concepts are steeped in morality, rigidly traditional and uncompromising in preserving the original standards of Shaolin Kung Fu.

[jun_erh]

interesting that internal is seen as "the ultimate"goal. I didn't know that particular dragon came from iron wire.