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Paul T England
11-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Hi does anyone know about snake & crane wing chun branch as descended from painted face kam....Yuen Kay San's grandteacher? (hong kong and South China)
Thanks
Paul
www.moifa.co.uk
Yoshiyahu
11-02-2009, 11:37 AM
Hi does anyone know about snake & crane wing chun branch as descended from painted face kam....Yuen Kay San's grandteacher? (hong kong and South China)
Thanks
Paul
www.moifa.co.uk
I believe someone else discussed that. But please share some info you have on it?
JT1125
11-02-2009, 06:44 PM
There is an article about "Snake Crane Wing Chun" in one of the New Martial Hero Magazine. As you stated, it comes from Dai Fa Min Kam *Painted Face Kam*. Kam taught Law Tiu Wen, who then taught his son. The Law family is now teaching in Hong Kong.
Yoshiyahu
11-03-2009, 07:52 AM
There is an article about "Snake Crane Wing Chun" in one of the New Martial Hero Magazine. As you stated, it comes from Dai Fa Min Kam *Painted Face Kam*. Kam taught Law Tiu Wen, who then taught his son. The Law family is now teaching in Hong Kong.
Do you have any links sharing info on Snake Crane WC...also how is different than regular Yip Man WC...please share?
I thought that Yip man Wing chun had the influences of the crane (ie Bong sau, ding sau) and the snake (ie Huen sau, bill gee) .......
from what i came to understand wing chun like okinawan krate was a variation largely of the whoping crane style:D
chusauli
11-05-2009, 10:55 AM
Hi does anyone know about snake & crane wing chun branch as descended from painted face kam....Yuen Kay San's grandteacher? (hong kong and South China)
Thanks
Paul
www.moifa.co.uk
Paul,
Maybe you should check out more on the history of WCK. Dai Fa Min Kam was teacher of Fung Siu Ching who taught Yuen Kay Shan and others. He basically taught Weng Chun - the Shaolin based art with some cross pollination with Wing Chun. Weng Chun has sets Sam Bai Futm 6.5 pole, etc.
"Snake and Crane" is probably made up writer to sound myusterious. Don't take it so literally.
WCK's alleged Snake and Crane is possibly descended from Fujian White Crane, and Emei 12 Zhuang/Emei snake style...but most people's idea is Shaw Brothers kung fu theatre.
Paul T England
11-07-2009, 12:55 PM
Hi All,
Well from my investigation so far it looks like Dai Fa Min Kam line passed down to the Law family in Hong Kong. They call it Snake and Crane style but i am not sure how different that means it will be to standard wing chun. I hope to meet them in Hong Kong next year so I will let everyone know.
Paul
canglong
11-18-2009, 12:57 AM
Hello Paul,
I would hope that your investigations take into consideration the many facets to studying a topic of this nature such as the fact that there is insider knowledge outside knowledge, Cultural, Ethnic, Historical and Hidden facets to be understood here.
Then you have to understand them and place them into their proper perspective. Not that everyone will agree on those things either but they can be useful in moving the conversation forward and helping keep your mind centered on what it is you are investigating.
Sometimes it is just easier to remove things like the word "standard" and just give the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise even if only from your own perspective.
http://www.hfy108.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2846
Something you may want to take a look at if you haven't already.
Yoshiyahu
11-18-2009, 08:45 AM
Paul,
Maybe you should check out more on the history of WCK. Dai Fa Min Kam was teacher of Fung Siu Ching who taught Yuen Kay Shan and others. He basically taught Weng Chun - the Shaolin based art with some cross pollination with Wing Chun. Weng Chun has sets Sam Bai Futm 6.5 pole, etc.
"Snake and Crane" is probably made up writer to sound myusterious. Don't take it so literally.
WCK's alleged Snake and Crane is possibly descended from Fujian White Crane, and Emei 12 Zhuang/Emei snake style...but most people's idea is Shaw Brothers kung fu theatre.
Are there any books that specifiy or give details to Wing Chun originating from Fujian White Crane and Emei 12 Zhunag
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