Physical and Mental Toughness

[AdrianK]

How much of an emphasis would you, as a teacher, sihing, or whatnot, put on physical and mental toughness?

What training methods do you utilize, to develop these attributes?

How far do you think you or your students could push yourselves, if ever required to?

[David Jamieson]

How much of an emphasis would you, as a teacher, sihing, or whatnot, put on physical and mental toughness?

What training methods do you utilize, to develop these attributes?

How far do you think you or your students could push yourselves, if ever required to?

1. Most

2. Many methods

3. As far as we can or we need to.

Physical and mental toughness walk hand in hand. If I want to demonstrate it readily, then it is time for a 5 mile run. If you are not a runner, you will hit the wall fast. Physical and mental toughness walk together when you push through those barriers towards your goal whatever it may be (finishing a drill set, lifting that new weight limit, doing those plyometric sets, getting through sparring, etc etc etc.

Training modes are myriad for setting up a level of physical and mental toughness. The key is to find the gate that is closed, and then work on opening it. Focus.

How far you can push yourself is an unknown until you do it. How far someone else can push themselves is a total unknown, unless you've witnessed some other example of them doing it. :)

[AdrianK]

No one else? :)

[TenTigers]

sam jien kuen, and other body impact/toughening drills. from day one, the student is conditioning to impact, starting off gradually, and increasing as he develops. SWe also do body kicks, leg kicks, and we run a gauntlet with the student walking between a double row of students, who fire round kicks to the body as he walks through.Beginners actually like this drill.

One of the biggest issues with beginners is understanding the difference between "getting hit," and "getting hurt." We also change the dialogue, using the term, 'tagged," rather than hit.
"You got tagged good" rather than "You got hit hard."

It's like Dentists. They use different wording:

"You're going to feel a little pinch" means,"I'm going to jab you with this longa$$ needle"

"you will experience some discomfort" means, "It's gonna hurt like a sumbich."

"Doing fine" means absolutely nothing, or stfu

"Almost there" again, it means absolutely nothing, or stfu

[sanjuro_ronin]

How much of an emphasis would you, as a teacher, sihing, or whatnot, put on physical and mental toughness?

What training methods do you utilize, to develop these attributes?

How far do you think you or your students could push yourselves, if ever required to?

For my 2nd dan BB in kyokushin I had to fight, full contact, no pads, 30 fighters, 2 min each.
It was a nice blend too, but the last ones were the lower rankers that, because one is so exhausted, get to tkae all the free shots that they can on you.
They loved every minute of it !
*******s.
For my TKD BB, and 2nd and 3rd, it was almsot the same, but it was 3 min of full contact with 3 ( 1st degree), 4 (2nd) and 5(3rd) seperate BB, doen at the end of teaching a 90 min class, and after an hour of grading and followed by multiple breaking tests.

Mental toughness is a "given" in a system like kyokushin or old school TKD, much like many of those closed door sessions in SHotokan or Judo...
Ah the stories I could tell, LOL !

[Drake]

Sleep deprivation, physical exhaustion, high amount of mental stress, too many tasks and not enough time. This works.

[David Jamieson]

Sleep deprivation, physical exhaustion, high amount of mental stress, too many tasks and not enough time. This works.

Yeah it works to instill groupthink! lol

This is typical of US army training methods isn't it?

[Taryn P.]

This is typical of US army training methods isn't it?

He11, that's typical of a normal WEEK in my world. :rolleyes:

[David Jamieson]

He11, that's typical of a normal WEEK in my world. :rolleyes:

working mom? lol

[Chazmek]

I'm not sure I want to imagine Taryn adding children into her apparently already-stressed-to-hell life....

[Chazmek]

Regardless of the instructor, each individual student's goals should be taken into account.
If they are training for the purpose of becoming an ultimate bad-ass, then yes, there should be ALOT of emphasis put on physical and mental conditioning.
A student who is simply training for exercise or as a fun hobby, on the other hand, is not going to require much of that sort of training in order to enjoy the results of their practice. And plus, they likely won't be interested in a school or instructor that has a static schedule of conditioning that all students are expected to partake in.
Heck, this isn't even taking into account the vast variations in training methods. Some of which are more attractive to certain kinds of people.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I'm not sure I want to imagine Taryn adding children into her apparently already-stressed-to-hell life....

Ha, if you don't have kids you have no idea of stress !
LOL !

[Taryn P.]

Ha, if you don't have kids you have no idea of stress !
LOL !

Oh, I got the idea; that's why I elected to not have any!

[Taryn P.]

I'm not sure I want to imagine Taryn adding children into her apparently already-stressed-to-hell life....

Heh... can you picture me doing Leopard Three with a baby bjorn harnessed to my chest?

Bung bo would snap the kid's neck for sure....

[sanjuro_ronin]

Oh, I got the idea; that's why I elected to not have any!

Wise call.

[David Jamieson]

My boy is 23 this year.


:eek:

where did my life go?

lol

[Drake]

He11, that's typical of a normal WEEK in my world. :rolleyes:

Need a job? :eek:

:D

[Taryn P.]

Need a job? :eek:

:D

Need a job with less stress and a saner schedule.......

With so many people out of work and struggling, I feel bad complaining that I have too much work. But man, I have too much work!

[Yum Cha]

Outward bound has a whole system for building mental toughness. The programs I participated in also contained a number of leadership initiatives that were taken from Officer Candidate School programs.

Martial arts in general has a lot of value, but when it comes to the real science of it, I think Outward Bound has the most lessons.

With martial arts, not all, but too many people fail by making a me against him/them comparison, whereas the issue is really only you against yourself.

Climbing up a cliff face on direct aid with 3,000 feet of exposure, snow melt running down over your hands and nowhere to go but up - and you can feel the clock is ticking as your hands go numb....

Now THAT's fun you don't forget.

[Drake]

Need a job with less stress and a saner schedule.......

With so many people out of work and struggling, I feel bad complaining that I have too much work. But man, I have too much work!

Yah, I know... I had to coach at an advanced rifle marksmanship range today, I have a mission analysis brief due, along with an Annex B (Read: LOTS of writing), a paper on counterinsurgency, annnnnd a physical fitness test all before Wed. of next week. Yay?