for HardWork8 / lkfmdc / unkokusai

[LSWCTN1]

this is a nice new thread you can all destroy by ganging up on Hardwork8 (dont know what he did? - maybe he actually deserves it?)

all i know is that i have done nothing to you and you keep destroying my threads!

have fun....

[lkfmdc]

(Hardwork8) dont know what he did? - maybe he actually deserves it?



He does

end of thread

[HardWork8]

He does

end of thread
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Watch, he won't deal with these direct questions at all

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

that total idiot's name is HardWork8

[HardWork8]

this is a nice new thread you can all destroy by ganging up on Hardwork8 (dont know what he did? - maybe he actually deserves it?)

As far as they are concerned I deserve it and that is because I have insulted their noble art of kickboxing, which is what one ends up with if he cross trains his kung fu with irrelevant arts.

You should have included Sanjuro ronin and cjurakpt as well as SoCoKung Fu in the title of the thread.


all i know is that i have done nothing to you and you keep destroying my threads!

You heard that guys. If you have any problems with me bring it here and stop messing up other people's threads.

P.S. Good idea Dave, lets hope that the above mentioned bring their problems here (as well as to a psychiatrist LOL!)

[HardWork8]

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Watch, he won't deal with these direct questions at all

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

that total idiot's name is HardWork8
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Watch, he won't deal with these direct questions at all

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

that total idiot's name is HardWork8

[unkokusai]

You should have included Sanjuro ronin and cjurakpt as well as SoCoKung Fu in the title of the thread.





Maybe the length of the list should tell you something, Basement Boy.

[HardWork8]

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Watch, he won't deal with these direct questions at all

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

that total idiot's name is HardWork8
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

You can run, but you can't hide
So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

that total idiot's name is HardWork8

[HardWork8]

Maybe the length of the list should tell you something, Basement Boy.

It does. The length of the list tells me about the popularity of crosstraining among mentally challenged people ;)

[lkfmdc]

We're all starting to see you sweat

What sort of person won't name their teacher or say what style they practice?

EASY ANSWER - a troll

What sort of person first makes claims, then when confronted, runs away and tries to avoid dealing with the issue directly?

EASY ANSWER - a troll who is a LIAR and full of ****

You can run, but you can't hide. You've refused to answer direct questions, you've been caught, the list of people who see you for what you are is growing.

You must enjoy public humilation, otherwise you'd just cut and run away

[HardWork8]

We're all starting to see you sweat

What sort of person won't name their teacher or say what style they practice?

EASY ANSWER - a troll

What sort of person first makes claims, then when confronted, runs away and tries to avoid dealing with the issue directly?

EASY ANSWER - a troll who is a LIAR and full of ****

You can run, but you can't hide. You've refused to answer direct questions, you've been caught, the list of people who see you for what you are is growing.

You must enjoy public humilation, otherwise you'd just cut and run away
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

What is becoming increasingly obvious to everyone is that you are a TROLL and a LIAR

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

How are you going to "deal" with us? By avoiding answering questions?

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU PATHETIC WEASAL

[HardWork8]

What is becoming increasingly obvious to everyone is that you are a TROLL and a LIAR

What sort of person won't say who their teacher is or what they practice?

Who makes claims that their teacher is famous and has DOCUMENTED fights then refuses to back up the claim?

Easy answer, A TOTAL IDIOT

How are you going to "deal" with us? By avoiding answering questions?

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU PATHETIC WEASAL
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

You can keep rolling your eyes basement boy, because all you are doing is proving the point over and over again

Your refusal to address the direct questions has proven you are nothing more than a LIAR

Now the entire forum knows what you are, and that you are not worth paying the least bit attention to

So back to the basement with you, you pathetic sod

[HardWork8]

You can keep rolling your eyes basement boy, because all you are doing is proving the point over and over again

Your refusal to address the direct questions has proven you are nothing more than a LIAR

Now the entire forum knows what you are, and that you are not worth paying the least bit attention to

So back to the basement with you, you pathetic sod
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

LMFAO.... haven't figured out yet that your tactic is defective, just like your kung fu :rolleyes:

I'm gonna keep posting the same questions everytime you log onto mommy's computer, so eventually you'll learn and go away

basement boy!

[unkokusai]

:rolleyes:



This is your answer? This is what you want to keep the 'discussion' here for?


I guess you really do want to disrupt those other threads...



your choice

[HardWork8]

This is your answer? This is what you want to keep the 'discussion' here for?


I guess you really do want to disrupt those other threads...



your choice

It seems that your current Retard medication is giving you dillusions of power. Let me remind you, you are nothing but a neglected punk who is reduced to seeking attention on internet forums.

By the way Unko, have you tried herbal Retard pills? Who knows they may help you more than your current medication.:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

It is very clear that the only mentally deficient person on these boards is HardWork8

His SOLE strategy is to try and ignore direct questions, as if no one is going to notice :rolleyes:

Only someone who lives in his mother's basement and still has a paper route at 40 would think that just ignoring the questions are going to make them go away

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Every time you try and duck these questions, the entire forum sees you for the TROLL and LIAR you are

[unkokusai]

It seems that your current Retard medication is giving you dillusions of power. Let me remind you, you are nothing but a neglected punk who is reduced to seeking attention on internet forums.

By the way Unko, have you tried herbal Retard pills? Who knows they may help you more than your current medication.:rolleyes:




Stop using the disabled as a punchline. It's not funny. It is offensive and you are offensive.

[unkokusai]

Are you going to answer the questions?

[HardWork8]

Are you going to answer the questions?

The relevant questions have been answered to the relevant people and nor you or your forum kickboxer boyfriends are among them!

And one more time, get your retarded brain to understand the following statement: I am using you Unkokusai, and not the cognitively challenged, as punch line.

Get it now? No? Then repeat read a couple of hundred times until your diseased brain understands that statement.

Do let know how you are getting along, wont you?

[unkokusai]

get your retarded brain to understand the following statement:


Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

[lkfmdc]

:rolleyes:

The relevant questions have been answered to the relevant people



YET ANOTHER LIE :rolleyes:

You have consistently refused to answer ANY of the questions

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Every time you try and duck these questions, the entire forum sees you for the TROLL and LIAR you are

[unkokusai]

The relevant questions have been answered to the relevant people and nor you or your forum kickboxer boyfriends are among them!


If you refuse to answer and you refuse to stop being a callous jerk, don't complain about threads being disrupted and such.

[lkfmdc]

His refusal to answer makes the answers self evident

1. His teacher is some loser who made some fake stuff up

2. his teacher can't punch his way out of a wet paper bag and has never had a fight in his life

3. his fake, made up, chop socky crap is the only martial art he has ever studied, which is why he believes in these fairy tales

4. Their "ground fighitng" is yet another hide your head in the sand TCMA ploy, yet another way for his fraud teacher to steal more money from unsuspecting iditos like HardWork8

5. Since what they do is utter crap, and they are afraid of their own shadows, they never leave their basement out of fear of the light of day

[sanjuro_ronin]

His refusal to answer makes the answers self evident

1. His teacher is some loser who made some fake stuff up

2. his teacher can't punch his way out of a wet paper bag and has never had a fight in his life

3. his fake, made up, chop socky crap is the only martial art he has ever studied, which is why he believes in these fairy tales

4. Their "ground fighitng" is yet another hide your head in the sand TCMA ploy, yet another way for his fraud teacher to steal more money from unsuspecting iditos like HardWork8

5. Since what they do is utter crap, and they are afraid of their own shadows, they never leave their basement out of fear of the light of day

I don't think its fair to lump his teacher in with the likes of him, as we know, many decent teachers have "fly-by-night" students that have big mouths and dillusions that have nothing to do with their teachers.

[lkfmdc]

Have you ever seen a person on a martial arts board (other than a TROLL) who refused to say what or with whom they studied? :rolleyes:

From the clap trap he rattles off, his teacher HAS to be a huge fraud. The only other option, his teacher doesn't even exist and he is studying kung fu from video tapes :rolleyes:

There is nothing personal being asked here. HE brought up his teacher and those supposed challenge matches. He said they were WELL DOCUMENTED and well known.... except when called on it he suddenly went 100% quiet :rolleyes:

HardWork8, everything about him screams fraud and wannabe

[sanjuro_ronin]

Have you ever seen a person on a martial arts board (other than a TROLL) who refused to say what or with whom they studied? :rolleyes:

Nope, that's true.

From the clap trap he rattles off, his teacher HAS to be a huge fraud. The only other option, his teacher doesn't even exist and he is studying kung fu from video tapes :rolleyes:

Perhaps not.


There is nothing personal being asked here. HE brought up his teacher and those supposed challenge matches. He said they were WELL DOCUMENTED and well known.... except when called on it he suddenly went 100% quiet :rolleyes:

HardWork8, everything about him screams fraud and wannabe

Quite.

[cjurakpt]

wow, go away for a day, come back, someone has created a thread just to contain S.T.U.P.I.D.!

while I can't read his posts (ignore is a WONDERFUL thing, really enjoying it), it appears as if it is being asked to substantiate its lineage and all that, and is "unwilling" to answer;

might want to throw some other questions on there like, why, if S.T.U.P.I.D.! is such an "expert" at kung fu, is it so worried about me royally beating the crap out of it? I mean, it wouldn't even accept a friendly invitation to touch hands and verify my level (claims it gets it all from how I write; whatever w/that...), instead trying to deflect the point with some glib remark about wanting to hold my hand (:confused:); I mean, it's obvious it's afraid, and while I do feel bad that it crapped its pants on the playground when the other boys chased it with sticks, I mean, by now it should have gotten over it, right? it wasn't like I was going to hurt it (well, maybe its feelings a bit when it realized how silly it must look being schooled), just "talk" a bit; so, just ask it why it is so scared;

addendum: too funny for words!

can you believe he posted this on his "profile"?

About HardWork8
Interests
Practicing Kung fu and researching Okinawan and Japanese karate styles, music, books and the ladies.

the ladies? the LADIES?!?

buwahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!

what a player this man must be, what a stud!!! (although maybe he meant the inflatable kind? or maybe he meant to write "laddies"? of course, maybe no one told him that getting the Dominos Pizza girl to come to his door isn't that big of an accomplishment...)

this should officially signify the end of anyone taking this lame-brain in the least bit seriously...oh wait, no one was in the first place, never mind!

[HardWork8]

I don't think its fair to lump his teacher in with the likes of him, as we know, many decent teachers have "fly-by-night" students

Well your teachers have had at least one. They taught you (some kind of a )kung fu so that you could then go and cross train it with Tae Kwon Do...and I am calling Unkokusai a retard.

that have big mouths and dillusions that have nothing to do with their teachers.

Yes, continue to feed the lies, the SAME ones instigated by YOU!

I know that your butt is still sore from what I did to you in the other thread but even so your dishonesty and complete lack of scruples has been a real eye opener, Mr Sanjuro.

[unkokusai]

...and I am calling Unkokusai a retard.




Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

[HardWork8]

Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

Unkokusai, you just have to face up to your condition and accept it. I did my best to cure you but you just don't cooperate.

Your pills don't seem to be working either. You refuse to take herbal medication. I just don't know what else to do with you.

The only thing that I can recommend is that you join a circus. As a clown you can put your disabilities to good use. You certainly have done that here in these forums.

That is it, a career change is what you need. Why stay part time when it is apparent that you would make a killing as full time circus clown.

Don't forget my agent's fee if your career takes off.;)

[unkokusai]

The only thing that I can recommend is that you join a circus. As a clown you can put your disabilities to good use. You certainly have done that here in these forums.



Stop that. The disabled do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

[HardWork8]

Stop that. The disabled do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

I am not insulting the disabled, I am just trying to help you with a career move and maybe I can make some money on the side.;)

By the way, the money that you save by not having to buy clown make-up you can forward to me as part of my agent's fee.

[HardWork8]

Nope, that's true.


Perhaps not.



Quite.

I see that the Forum's own Sore Butt Kick Boxer is talking to his Forum Idiot friend.
I suppose that you need to comfort each other after what you have been through.

Maybe Ikfmdc can get you a new punch bag to make you a happy man again.:rolleyes:

[unkokusai]

I am not insulting the disabled.



Clearly you are, and you are either too stupid to realize what you are doing or you just don't give a ****. Either way STOP THAT.

[HardWork8]

wow, go away for a day, come back, someone has created a thread just to contain S.T.U.P.I.D.!
Actually, LSWCTN1 created this thread because your forum boyfriends were getting out of hand in the other threads. You can check his own comments here. But then the truth never ever got in the way of you and your peanut sized brain, did it?

while I can't read his posts (ignore is a WONDERFUL thing, really enjoying it),
Yes and we all believe you Mr cjurakpt, the SoreButt. You really must have the IQ of p1ss ante to think that anyone believes you regarding your ignore button.

What am I saying, you DO have the IQ of a p1ss ante.(Just in case the moral icons of this Forum,Unkokusai and Sanjuro, are reading this, I did not mean to offend the p1ss ante population of this planet by that last remark.)

it appears as if it is being asked to substantiate its lineage and all that, and is "unwilling" to answer;
Actually, my lineage has been substantiated to the relevant people here in the forums. By relevant people, I mean people who practice kung fu for REAL and that includes David who started this thread!

is such an "expert" at kung fu,
It is not that I am an expert because I am not and never have claimed to be. It is just that YOU and your forum kickboxer buddies' understanding of Kung fu is mediocre. Do you understand now?

is it so worried about me royally beating the crap out of it? I mean, it wouldn't even accept a friendly invitation to touch hands and verify my level

Yes, I refused to take plane and fly out of london to Smucksville U.S.A just to toudh hands with you:rolleyes:. And you are surprised? I am not going to fly across any ocean to touch hands with any man....a woman maybe, but a man never!

Maybe you see things in a different light but then that may have more to do with your sexual orientation than your "kung fu" knowledge...;)

(claims it gets it all from how I write; whatever w/that...),

Well, it would help if you didn't write like a village idiot.:rolleyes:

instead trying to deflect the point with some glib remark about wanting to hold my hand (:confused:);
I wish I had never said that, but please try to understand that at the time I was not aware of your ****sexual orientation...sorry to have lead you on:eek:

I mean, it's obvious it's afraid,
I may be a little afraid of catching something if you have open cuts on your hands:eek:

and while I do feel bad that it crapped its pants on the playground when the other boys chased it with sticks,
Well that is a half truth....I crapped my pants laughing while I read some of your posts on the subject matter of Kung Fu.

I mean, by now it should have gotten over it, right?
You are kidding right? Because, I am still laughing....LOL.LOL,LOL!

it wasn't like I was going to hurt it
Of course not, but it did hurt when I couldn't stop laughing at your "kung fu" posts.

(well, maybe its feelings a bit when it realized how silly it must look being schooled),
You are wrong! I don't mind being schooled, but I will never be as good as you when it comes to writing idiotically hilarious posts about kung fu.

The way you use your mediocre knowledge to write such funny pieces is just amazing.

And how you keep a straight face while you are writing this stuff is just beyond me.

I suppose that you have the unfair advantage of your below average intelligence that facilitate your idiotic posts.

just "talk" a bit; so, just ask it why it is so scared;
No one has to ask me, I'll tell you......I am scared because I am afraid that your hilarious writings about kung fu and my resulting bursts of laughter will one day give me a heart attack.

Meeting you in person, looking at your village idiot face while remembering your "memorable" kung fu comments/discussions on these boards is not something l look forward to. My potential burst of laughter might just kill me.

I don't want to die now, just when I am supposed to go into business with your dear friend Unkokusai. You know, I have recommended him a career as circus clown. I forsee a successful future for him...he is a NATURAL. He has promised me a healthy commision as his agent.

Hey, if you are interested I may find you a job in a circus as well...perhaps cleaning the animal cages...but remember 15% agent's commision on your salary.

Anyway, think about it and let me know [oh no, I used the "think" word with cjurakpt....I wonder if I will live to regret it???]


addendum: too funny for words!
That is EXACTLY what I have been trying to tell you!


the ladies? the LADIES?!?
Well most of us heterosexual men love the ladies. Why are you so surprised? Oh yes I almost forgot about your sexual orientation..don't worry to each his own;):rolleyes:

buwahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Hey, careful now, there may be ladies reading.

what a player this man must be, what a stud!!!
Well thank you. Hey who knows maybe you'll be a heterosexual stud in your next life.

(although maybe he meant the inflatable kind?
No, I wouldn't dare...that is Sanjuro's department and I don't want to get him jeaulous because as you know he is a dangerous man- a "master of Iron Palm", no less!:rolleyes:

of course, maybe no one told him that getting the Dominos Pizza girl to come to his door isn't that big of an accomplishment...)
How about getting her to cum inside the door? But then you wouldn't know about things like that.:D

Uthis should officially signify the end of anyone taking this lame-brain in the least bit seriously...
Lame-brain? Now who is picking on poor Unkokusai?
I won't let you bad mouth my new business partner, the "new king of the circus", "the prince of clowns". Show some respect !!!!

By the way, about your cage cleaning job....I would consider a 10% commission if you agree to help Unko with his clown act....perhaps you can choreograph some kind of a clown kickboxing/wresting fight and I'll let you call it "Kung Fu Fighting"...of course, it will have to be full contact...believe me you two will be a "hit".

Anyway, no more ideas for you until the contracts are signed.

oh wait, no one was in the first place, never mind!
Well Unkokusai, I did warn you, I did say take those pills, but you just didn't listen and now you've EVEN got someone like cjurakpt, a person who is not really known for his intelligence, bad mouthing your cognitive abilities.

There is just no honor among knuckleheads (and liars)!

[sanjuro_ronin]

wow, go away for a day, come back, someone has created a thread just to contain S.T.U.P.I.D.!

while I can't read his posts (ignore is a WONDERFUL thing, really enjoying it), it appears as if it is being asked to substantiate its lineage and all that, and is "unwilling" to answer;

might want to throw some other questions on there like, why, if S.T.U.P.I.D.! is such an "expert" at kung fu, is it so worried about me royally beating the crap out of it? I mean, it wouldn't even accept a friendly invitation to touch hands and verify my level (claims it gets it all from how I write; whatever w/that...), instead trying to deflect the point with some glib remark about wanting to hold my hand (:confused:); I mean, it's obvious it's afraid, and while I do feel bad that it crapped its pants on the playground when the other boys chased it with sticks, I mean, by now it should have gotten over it, right? it wasn't like I was going to hurt it (well, maybe its feelings a bit when it realized how silly it must look being schooled), just "talk" a bit; so, just ask it why it is so scared;

addendum: too funny for words!

can you believe he posted this on his "profile"?



the ladies? the LADIES?!?

buwahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!!

what a player this man must be, what a stud!!! (although maybe he meant the inflatable kind? or maybe he meant to write "laddies"? of course, maybe no one told him that getting the Dominos Pizza girl to come to his door isn't that big of an accomplishment...)

this should officially signify the end of anyone taking this lame-brain in the least bit seriously...oh wait, no one was in the first place, never mind!

Ah dude, it was just a slow day yesterday, we had to do something to keep busy.
Some people are just easy targets.
Since 1bad and Rudy seem to be quite, we needed somethign to generate traffic for Gene :D

[lkfmdc]

Only someone who lives in his mother's basement and still has a paper route at 40 would think that just ignoring the questions are going to make them go away

So answer the questions then HardWork8

1. Who is your sifu?

2. Why is there NO EVIDENCE of the claims you made RE them?

3. What is the other style you practice?

4. Why is there no footage of your "secret ground fighting"

5. Have you ever tested your "secret ground fighting" on people who actually know how to grapple?

Every time you try and duck these questions, the entire forum sees you for the TROLL and LIAR you are

[cjurakpt]

Since 1bad and Rudy seem to be quite, we needed somethign to generate traffic for Gene :D

there did seem to be an eerie silence; maybe they met somewhere for a secret death match that ended in a tie?

[HardWork8]

Clearly you are, and you are either too stupid to realize what you are doing or you just don't give a ****. Either way STOP THAT.

Listen, lets talk seriously for a moment. About your new job as a circus clown, I want to know wether I as your agent will be required to pay for your retard medication?

If so, then it is not fair and we need to renegociate our contract. Lets say, I get 40% of your salary? Then I will pay for your retard medication. This is the only fair way to do it.

Do let me know.

[HardWork8]

Ah dude, it was just a slow day yesterday,

You telling me? It was SLOW alright.....LOL. SLOW is the word. I had to deal with Unkokusai, cjurakpt and to top things up with you.

I don't know wether the US/Canadian govts are sponsoring internet therapy for the mentally disadvantaged members of the community?

But me ending up posting to you 3 plus Ikfmdc on the same day sure does smell like something fishy is going on.

Could there be other of your fellow below average intelligence members of community posting on maybe scientific forums as part of a therapy? I mean something like, "Hello, I am a physicist" just like you guys say, "Hello, I know kung fu"?

If this is the case, then the North American governments are sicker than I thought..;)

we had to do something to keep busy.
You could try the enchant art of reading books. Believe me that even knuckleheads like you can benefit from reading books.

You do no what books are don't you? Of course you do. I know for a fact and that is because you said so yourself, that you have one book about karate written by Mas. Oyama that has been sitting on your bookshelf for years and somehow it has not evaportated:rolleyes:

Remember that this is the book that refered to the existance of ground fighting in Kyokushinkai something that you had no idea about. This resulted in a lot of embarassment for you. So you see, if you read regularly you will avoid your foot in the mouth moments as well has exercising that knucklehead brain of yours.

So read that book to start with. I know how you like to only look at the pictures only but do try and be good boy and READ.

Some people are just easy targets.
You must try and keep your mother out of this discussion.

Since 1bad and Rudy seem to be quite, we needed somethign to generate traffic for Gene :D

And of course you couldn't generate traffic by actually talking about KUNG FU in this KUNG FU Forum? Well of course not!

Why should you talk about kung fu when your knowledge of it is barely superficial? It is easier to spread lies about other posters who have infinitely more knowledge about the subject than you. Just to get back at them for publicly exposing you as nothing more than a kickboxer who pretends to "know kung fu".

However, what you have done is expose your lack of character and low morals.

You are a second dan black belt in Kyokushinkai karate and you had no idea that the art addressed groundfighting in the old days and that is despite having a book that was sitting on your shelf authored by the FOUNDER of the style that contained the relevant information. Yes, more simptoms of punch drunkeness among the "modern" martial artists of today.:rolleyes:

What hope do you have of making any intelligent contribution in a discussion about kung fu an art that is infinitely more complex than karate? Oh yes I forgot, you do make contributions by posting bikini clad babes.

Of course, once in a while you do make relevant comments about kickboxing and other knucklehead martial arts.

Now do keep your finger on that ignore (bury your head in the sand) button.

[HardWork8]

there did seem to be an eerie silence;

"eerie silence"?????? Not from where I am sitting....because I can still here your screams all the way in London....Poor cjurakpt, your butt must be excruciatingly sore for you to be screaming like that.....:D

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2331102&pp=25&page=8
Here he is as "chinesefist".
Its an old schtick, but at least its consistent, LOL !
It starts on page 8 as that is th efirst post and then work your way backwards to page 1 and enjoy the craptascular spewage !
:D

[Dale Dugas]

Hardlyworked8 seems to be nothing more than yet another troll for does not train but can speak from experience.

Toolbag be gone.

Your lame rhetoric is fooling no one.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hardlyworked8 seems to be nothing more than yet another troll for does not train but can speak from experience.

Toolbag be gone.

Your lame rhetoric is fooling no one.

Well at least its consistent, sure its not new or fooling anyone anymore, but, much like a slug, it oozes spectacular crapulence !
:D

[unkokusai]

"eerie silence"??????



Yes, from you not answering ANY of the questions. Why not try at least one and see how that goes?

[unkokusai]

I want to know wether I as your agent will be required to pay for your retard medication? Then I will pay for your retard medication.




Stop using the disabled as a punchline. It's not funny. It is offensive and you are offensive. STOP THAT.

[unkokusai]

You could try the enchant art of reading books. Believe me that even knuckleheads like you can benefit from reading books.

You do no what books are don't you? Of course you do.




What did you say your first language was again? Or is that a secret too?

[sanjuro_ronin]

What did you say your first language was again? Or is that a secret too?

LOL !
Actually I am surprised that Gene or a moderator hasn't reprimanded him on his constant use of the term "retard" and the vile derogatory manner that he uses it.

[unkokusai]

Well, if everyone keeps reporting it someone will eventually take notice.

[cjurakpt]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2331102&pp=25&page=8
Here he is as "chinesefist".
Its an old schtick, but at least its consistent, LOL !
It starts on page 8 as that is th efirst post and then work your way backwards to page 1 and enjoy the craptascular spewage !
:D

link doesn't seem to go anywhere except to a blank screen in bullshido...

[lkfmdc]

LAST NAIL IN HARDWORK8's COFFIN

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25435&page=17

direct link (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25435&page=17)

there you will find him denying that the existance of AlQueda and saying that the US governemnt blew up the trade towers

that makes him PURE SCUM and we should now kick him off the boards

[sanjuro_ronin]

link doesn't seem to go anywhere except to a blank screen in bullshido...

Really? Works for me, it's list of all his 100 and some odd posts on BS and all the crap that he spews.

Then again, David's link is more than good enough.

If you wanna see all of them, you can do a member search on BS for chinesefist.

[lkfmdc]

Bullshido is a gold mine of HardWork8's mental breakdowns

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2331272&pp=25

that should take you to every post he has ever made over there!

Some of the "gems"

1. He has studied a grand total of THREE years and is now "self training" (my bet, "self training" = masturbation)

2. More ridiculous claims about his still unnamed sifu, that he beat Gracies in challenge matches in Brazil :rolleyes:

But the paranoid, conspiracy theory wach job posts are more than enough to seal the deal

HardWork8 = mentally unstable person with no grasp of reality

[LoneTiger108]

Bullshido is a gold mine of HardWork8's mental breakdowns

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2331272&pp=25

Hi again! :eek:

I'm beginning to see your concerns here...

Let's not forget that sometimes even the young students need guidance and some teachers are better represented if they speak for themselves.

[Steeeve]

Thats better fit here

For you David and Cie

Sawasdee Krub

Thats its not from me but .....just add the (kung fu)

Training: Tigers and Sheep

Sometimes karate,(kung fu) training can be called training as a tiger or training as a sheep.
If you train as a tiger -- hard training and body conditioning -- you can always train with tigers. Other tigers will also recognize you and you can train in peace with them. They know that when two tigers really
fight that one will die of injuries today and the other will die of injuries tomorrow. Both will die, so they have nothing to prove.

If you train like a sheep -- no contact and no two-man conditioning -- then you can only train with sheep.
A tiger can train with tigers and he can also train with sheep. He just has to be careful not to hurt them. A sheep cannot train with tigers.
Sheep see tigers as being very frightening and their conditioning, he says, will cause cancer.
A sheep training with tigers will get eaten up.

Sometimes you see a sheep who sees the truth of tiger training and changes. In reality this sheep was actually a tiger in sheep's clothing waiting to come out.

Watch people training. Look at how they act and how they behave.
A tiger can be like a little kitty but dangerous even though he is friendly. They are quiet and watch everything. They listen and watch. They know who they
are and they have nothing to prove -- they are at peace.

Sheep, on the other hand, make all kinds of noises and demand to be heard.
They run around and seem to crave attention. They are easily hurt and easily scared. They always group together for their own protection. When danger
approaches they look towards the group for protection because they cannot defend themselves. They are easy prey for tigers -- whether it is one sheep or several, sheep are still sheep.

-- Ryuko Tomoyose, Uechi-ryu

[lkfmdc]

I'm beginning to see your concerns here...

Let's not forget that sometimes even the young students need guidance and some teachers are better represented if they speak for themselves.

As soon as we found out WHO he was talking about, it turns out he is anything but representative of that group. IE they claim NO AFFILIATION with him, claim he has mental problems and say he is full of crap

What you've seen is just the tip of the iceberg

[HardWork8]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2331102&pp=25&page=8
Here he is as "chinesefist".
Its an old schtick, but at least its consistent, LOL !
It starts on page 8 as that is th efirst post and then work your way backwards to page 1 and enjoy the craptascular spewage !
:D

Anyone who reads that link carefully will know that nothing was suggested there that is out of this world.

Sanjuro, keep on selling the lie.:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

As soon as we found out WHO he was talking about, it turns out he is anything but representative of that group. IE they claim NO AFFILIATION with him, claim he has mental problems and say he is full of crap

What you've seen is just the tip of the iceberg

:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

Hardlyworked8 seems to be nothing more than yet another troll for does not train but can speak from experience.

Toolbag be gone.

Your lame rhetoric is fooling no one.

Can you be more specifid please?

Just talking crap about another poster is not going to get you anywhere.

[lkfmdc]

HardWork8, you have been EXPOSED

EXPOSED as a 3 year beginner who has been disowned by the very people you rattle on about

EXPOSED as a LIAR since the people you CLAIM to be associated with say your posts are LIES

EXPOSED as a mentally unstable person who spouts ridiculous nonsense

Notice the ever growing list of people that want you to LEAVE? you got booted off bullshido, yet another forum. Pretty easy to see why, you are a LOSER and a TOOL

Do you enjoy the humiliation?

[HardWork8]

2. More ridiculous claims about his still unnamed sifu, that he beat Gracies in challenge matches in Brazil :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

EXPOSED....


The person or persons posting are not students of sifu Andria Pivcevic and do not speak for him. The claims made are not representative of the methods nor how sifu presents himself. We are concerned and ask why this person is posting incorrectly about sifu. We want people to be aware that he has nothing to do with us.


So go on, LIE all you want, it's just a matter of time. You're obviously a major head case.

[lkfmdc]

Here's a good one


HardWork's lack of skill is obvious to those who have trained in Wing Chun for any length of time


that was from a very respected WC person

[Steeeve]

Ok here your punishment big guys.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9e3Dy7obA&feature=related

:D:rolleyes::cool:

[HardWork8]

Hi again! :eek:

I'm beginning to see your concerns here...

Let's not forget that sometimes even the young students need guidance and some teachers are better represented if they speak for themselves.
Spencer,

Please read the my comments throughout that particular thread - and my explanations of why I said what I said - regarding the "controvercial" issue, form beginning to the end.

The whole thing started when I said that my sifu had fought challenges. It was supposed to demonstrate that there are kung fu teachers who do not fight in competitions but do fight challenges.

THAT WAS THE ONLY POINT THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IN THAT THREAD. The crosstraining knuckleheads of that forum did not like that comment becaus I mentioned that sifu had beat non-kung fu fighters as well. Then all hell broke loose.

I did not mention the Gracies nor world champions, etc.etc. If you think anything I said there was that outrageous(besides my trading of insults with certain members:o)) then please let me know which ones they were. You can PM me if you want.

[Steeeve]

Ok here your punishment big guys.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9e3Dy7obA&feature=related

:D:rolleyes::cool:

A joke here une joke

[lkfmdc]

LMFAO @ HardWork as the house of cards comes crashing down

As people see him for what he really is, he scrambles to try and change history and claims he never said what he said, ever after WE POSTED LINKS TO IT

:rolleyes:

He's been EXPOSED. He isn't even affiliated with the master he refused to name, now we know why he wouldn't hame him!

They want NOTHING to do with him......

[HardWork8]

Here's a good one



that was from a very respected WC person
:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

LMFAO @ HardWork as the house of cards comes crashing down

As people see him for what he really is, he scrambles to try and change history and claims he never said what he said, ever after WE POSTED LINKS TO IT

:rolleyes:

He's been EXPOSED. He isn't even affiliated with the master he refused to name, now we know why he wouldn't hame him!

They want NOTHING to do with him......
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

EXPOSED....


The person or persons posting are not students of sifu Andria Pivcevic and do not speak for him. The claims made are not representative of the methods nor how sifu presents himself. We are concerned and ask why this person is posting incorrectly about sifu. We want people to be aware that he has nothing to do with us.


So go on, LIE all you want, it's just a matter of time. You're obviously a major head case.

[HardWork8]

A joke here une joke
:eek: AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! !!!!;)

[HardWork8]

EXPOSED....



So go on, LIE all you want, it's just a matter of time. You're obviously a major head case.
:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

HardWork8, you have been EXPOSED

EXPOSED as a 3 year beginner who has been disowned by the very people you rattle on about

EXPOSED as a LIAR since the people you CLAIM to be associated with say your posts are LIES

EXPOSED as a mentally unstable person who spouts ridiculous nonsense

Notice the ever growing list of people that want you to LEAVE? you got booted off bullshido, yet another forum. Pretty easy to see why, you are a LOSER and a TOOL

Do you enjoy the humiliation?
:rolleyes:

[lkfmdc]

Keep making the silly face, it's all you have left as your house of cards falls apart


The person or persons posting are not students of sifu Andria Pivcevic and do not speak for him. The claims made are not representative of the methods nor how sifu presents himself. We are concerned and ask why this person is posting incorrectly about sifu. We want people to be aware that he has nothing to do with us.


So go on, LIE all you want, we all already know.

TICK TICK TICK

it's just a matter of time until you are gone from here, driven off this forum like you were driven off BS (and probably several other foruns as well)

Go back to your "self training" :rolleyes:

[Steeeve]

Here better for you guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esl2NNOtHQE


:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[HardWork8]

Keep making the silly face, it's all you have left as your house of cards falls apart



So go on, LIE all you want, we all already know.

TICK TICK TICK

it's just a matter of time until you are gone from here, driven off this forum like you were driven off BS (and probably several other foruns as well)


:Go back to your "self training" :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

[Steeeve]

Ok thats time to me to takin care of my bussiness.....pleased take a look to the video :)grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-R9S1m4dA&feature=related

David ur a ******* but i like you like that;) you are real not fake

Steeve

[unkokusai]

Wow, Basement Boy's even worse than I thought! (and that's saying something!)

[HardWork8]

Ok thats time to me to takin care of my bussiness.....pleased take a look to the video :)grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-R9S1m4dA&feature=related

David ur a ******* but i like you like that;) you are real not fake

Steeve

Yea, but a "real" what?

By the way, great video link.....good to bump into a fellow heterosexual.:D

[HardWork8]

LMFAO @ HardWork as the house of cards comes crashing down

As people see him for what he really is, he scrambles to try and change history and claims he never said what he said, ever after WE POSTED LINKS TO IT

:rolleyes:

He's been EXPOSED. He isn't even affiliated with the master he refused to name, now we know why he wouldn't hame him!

They want NOTHING to do with him......
:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

Wow, Basement Boy's even worse than I thought! (and that's saying something!)

Saying what? That you Unkokusai actually managed to generate a "thought" within that thick and rotting skull of yours ? ? ? ?

[unkokusai]

I see you gave some more great 'expert' kungfu master advice on another thread.


"I took a quick look at a DVD"


Wow, more sage wisdom...

Where do you come up with this great insider info? Could it be that you have been studying the sacred scrolls of Google?

Wow :eek:

[Steeeve]

David ur a ******* but i like you like that you are real not fake

Steeve

Yea, but a "real" what?

By the way, great video link.....good to bump into a fellow heterosexual.


David seem to have a weakness for the Shemale of Thailand and Brazil
since i talk about that ..... He seem to like it ....

[unkokusai]

By the way, great video link.....good to bump into a fellow heterosexual.:D



You're trying a little too hard Senator. Just stay out of airport bathrooms and you won't have to compensate so much...

[Steeeve]

Sorry I want to put correction ....David dont know about the brazilian shemale

I just talk about the thailand one ......Sorry for the error

[Steeeve]

In fact thats the time or the timing to ask to David

Do you have something about the gay or the transsexual? I mean any opinion to say ? You know Human being who are different of you........without the big fat belly for sure....just a joke ....;) Keep training

Steeve

[HardWork8]

You're trying a little too hard Senator. Just stay out of airport bathrooms

And I will stay out of airport bathrooms, specially if you and your gang(Sanjuro,cjurakpt,Ikfmdc) of glorified man loving kickboxers are travelling through the same airport.

And that is another reason why I always refer to you guys as "Sore Butts":D

[unkokusai]

Say, did you get a chance to answer any of those questions yet?

[HardWork8]

Say, did you get a chance to answer any of those questions yet?
:rolleyes:

[unkokusai]

Is that a 'yes' or a 'no?'

[HardWork8]

Is that a 'yes' or a 'no?'
:rolleyes:

[Steeeve]

ghrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr;)

[Steeeve]

David & CIE
Originally Posted by unkokusai
You're trying a little too hard Senator. Just stay out of airport bathrooms

Say, did you get a chance to answer any of those questions yet

Is that a 'yes' or a 'no?

you do that in the bath room of the airport.....u are wild guys ,,,,,push push
harder harder.......

just for you guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zKpu04Y8Mw

Steeve

[HardWork8]

David & CIE
you do that in the bath room of the airport.....u are wild guys ,,,,,push push
harder harder.......


Yes they DO and it is a New and Modern Street Effective style that they have invented...it is called "Sore-Butt Kung Fu". It is also known as the "Four Retard Ancestors' Fist".

What they did was bring their sore butts together and then each one contributed their own kickboxing knowledge to this art.

Sanjuro_ronin....contributed his art of Iron Thick Skull, together with the art of lying through his teeth to your adversary and every other idiot who will buy those lies.

Cjurakpt......contributed with his art of showing how hopelessly thick and stupid he is so that the adversary will take pity on him and not beat him to a pulp.

Unkokusai....Introduced a special type of ground fighting which is an important aspect of his own Retard Fist style, where he takes down his adversary and then drowns him with his retard drool.

Ikfmdc....Adapted this martial art for the ring to be used by overweight "athlets" such as himself.

This grand art of "kung fu" has become a legend among the knucklehead population of the world. They just can't wait to learn the special techniques and then go on to win many nice and shiny medals in No Holes Barred contests.

For whatever reason Knuckleheads do like shiny metalic objects and they are known to stand hours mezmerised by them.

Apparently this art is very popular in airport bathrooms or any other area frequented by their boyfriends.

"Bird Brain" Kung fu is how some Traditionalists affectionately and pityingly describe this style of kung fu and looking at the style's founders, one can understand why.

[Steeeve]

So in conclusion

Thats a new styles coming from 4 differents guys .....the Song remain the same
Now we have to find a names of this style.....:eek:

some punch,some joint lock,some kicking ,some grappling,,,,whats the ****in name in chinese to impress the public....da ,na dik.shuai oh sorry i blend the dialect of chinese.....thats really important to use the good words....if you have the good words u are better:D

If your Sifu is a Chinese ur better ...you have the secret .......the secret to pay
$$$......to have his respect.....

WELCOME TO THE PLEASURE DOOM

:D

[unkokusai]

"Four Retard Ancestors' Fist".



Unkokusai....Introduced a special type of ground fighting which is an important aspect of his own Retard Fist style, where he takes down his adversary and then drowns him with his retard drool..




Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

[HardWork8]

Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

YOU Unkokusai are the JOKE and not the Cognitively Challenged. You and your Forum kickboxer allies always use the same smear campagnes against posters by misrepresenting what they say and then REPEATING THE LIES!

By the way, you are going to stay the JOKE until you change your ways and become more respectful and honest in your postings.

The same goes for Sanjuro_ronin, cjurakpt and Ikfmdc, who are nothing more than glorified kickboxers inspite of their "resumes"!

Going back to the subject at hand. I have received a PM that remindeding me that I had missed out another one of the names given to your style which is:

"4 Knuckleheads Ancestor Fist".

Sorry for having missed this one out. As I am sure that you are aware some styles of kung fu go by different names depending on geography and dialects, so sometimes it is difficult to remember all the names.

[unkokusai]

As I am sure that you are aware some styles of kung fu go by different names depending on geography and dialects, so sometimes it is difficult to remember all the names.



How about the style you supposedly study there in London? What name does it go by?

How about your teacher? What name does he go by?

How about anyone he ever fought? What names do they go by?

How about your first language? What name does it go by?

I know what name the source of all your sage advice to anyone who asks a question about WC goes by: Google.

I know what name you go by here, as on BS: Mud.

[SoCo KungFu]

Awwww.....I guess I'm not good enough to be in the same club as the ancestors.....:(

And I been perfecting my technique too. My chi is so strong now, I can stand flat footed, $h!t and hit the ceiling...

[HardWork8]

How about the style you supposedly study there in London? What name does it go by?

How about your teacher? What name does he go by?

How about anyone he ever fought? What names do they go by?

How about your first language? What name does it go by?

I know what name the source of all your sage advice to anyone who asks a question about WC goes by: Google.

I know what name you go by here, as on BS: Mud.

:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

Awwww.....I guess I'm not good enough to be in the same club as the ancestors.....:(

Hello "So Called Kung Fu",

It has been a while, I was wondering when you would show up and join your kickboxer allies.

I am sure that you are "good" enough as I know for a fact that you still look down on kung fu forms practice and are continuing to make idiotic jokes about chi and the kung fu internals.:rolleyes:

See below:

And I been perfecting my technique too. My chi is so strong now, I can stand flat footed, $h!t and hit the ceiling...

I always said that your "So Called" approach to kung fu was Sh1t!

[SoCo KungFu]

Its funny how all this started when HW8 decided to open his mouth in a forum that isn't even involved with WC and give crap advice on of all things....a tackle....

And then the irony that HE actually said WE are turning away new kung fu people by telling them to seek out actual teaching with people that specialize in the area the OP was asking about...

Its funny though I sifted through the ChineseFist crap on bullshido and he hasn't had a single thought process in over 3 years..


PS. I hear that the bakery business is also good in Sao Paolo and you would have no trouble entering it, as a has been lawyer who never has had been.
Sorry for bringing it up all the time but I am just trying to help someone who needs an urgent change of career.

HAHA he's been involved in charity for a long time it seems.

So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath? Since you seem to be spouting off so much recently about how you are going back to your old sifu....

[SoCo KungFu]

Oh man and how can I forget...
His secret job
His secret sifu in his secret "ace up my sleeve" kungfu
His secret Tai Chi chin ups...how those workin out for ya huh?
His secret wing chun ground fighting

Oh and the fact that he even admitted to the fact that he himself has not even seen this WC ground game. Just that he knows its there....

[SoCo KungFu]

And just for a bit of advice...I suggest you wear some sunglasses the first time you walk outside. It can get pretty dark down in the basement. And you haven't seen the light in years....

haha ya get it? ;) I made a funny

[cjurakpt]

I have nut-boy troll on ignore, so I don't actually know what he's been posting, but I'm curious about his taiji chin-ups? what kind of weirdness is that?

[HardWork8]

Its funny how all this started when HW8 decided to open his mouth in a forum that isn't even involved with WC and give crap advice on of all things....a tackle....

And then the irony that HE actually said WE are turning away new kung fu people by telling them to seek out actual teaching with people that specialize in the area the OP was asking about...

You are LYING! If memory serves me right my I said more or less that

A. Unkokusai was turning away newbies by being rude and obnoxious to them.

B. That a kung fu newbies who comes to these forums for advice does not need to be fed crap about the "uselessness" of kung fu formes and "Internals" by knucklehead crosstrainer MMAists such as yourselves, who are nothing but glorified kickboxers!

Its funny though I sifted through the ChineseFist crap on bullshido and he hasn't had a single thought process in over 3 years..
There were plenty of thought processes but they were reserved,as far as kung fu forums are concerned, to interact with people who actually PRACTICE AUTHENTIC KUNG FU and NOT knucklehead kickboxers such as yourself.


HAHA he's been involved in charity for a long time it seems.

Even more so since I joined these forums and met you and your fellow intellectually challenged, punchdrunk kickboxers and the results of my "charity" speake for themselves as we have around half dozen (you included) Sore Butt kickboxers running around this forum doing their best to hide their inadequacies behind lies and smear campagnes aimed at me.:rolleyes:

So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath?
Be kind enough to provide the link for this "public branding" and I will answer your question.

Or take the easier option and continue Sanjuro_ronin's LIES! Lies that have been partially exposed in the Wing Chun threads.

So before you make a bigger Sore Butt out of yourself take your rabbit brain to the other threads and read them!

Unless that is, you are very keen to join the DISHONEST Sore Butt Ancestors' (Sanjuro_ronin,cjurakpt,Ikfmdc and Unkokusai) "kung fu" lineage THEN do stay here because I am enjoying evey moment of exposing you lot of pseudo kung fu-ist KICKBOXERS as the vile pretentious and DISHONEST social rejects that you are!

[HardWork8]

Oh man and how can I forget...
His secret job
His secret sifu in his secret "ace up my sleeve" kungfu
His secret Tai Chi chin ups...how those workin out for ya huh?
His secret wing chun ground fighting

Oh and the fact that he even admitted to the fact that he himself has not even seen this WC ground game. Just that he knows its there....

:rolleyes:

[SoCo KungFu]

The object is to develop body unity without isolating the muscles too much and without creating a more than necessary muscle mass. I suppose that your approach to Wing Chun is more of an external approach.

You can exercise your resistance by variations of chin-ups that would serve the purposes of Wing Chun better than Weight training - internally speaking that is.

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
Ok then. Since you were replying too a post that mentioned deadlifting and squatting I think you should know that they are the furthest things from "isolating mucles" that one person can do, they are compound exercises that work the WHOLE body and its many path ways, pretty much every strength trainer know this.

The fact is that even that approach is to "external" for Wing Chun, or at least the lineage that I practice. We are ever supposed to limit the number of push ups or even eliminate them in favor of chin ups.

There are also other exercises such as "animal walking", eg. tiger, lizard etc. Animal walking? HAHA look ma I'm a tiger!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
ST does NOT build muscle mass UNLESS you eat in a way that makes gaining mass your goal.

Unfortunately for a lot of MA people gaining muscle mass is the goal, "it looks good" you know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
As for chins, unless you are only doing low reps of chins because you are too "weak" to do more or perhaps have added weight because you are too strong, you would typically be doing reps in the 10+ range, ie: pumping your muscles, the very thing you said you are against.

That is interesting, because after years of doing this I do not have large or "pumped" muscles. Neither does sifu.

So, it is back to the drawing board for you.

Or maybe it is the way that you do your chin ups, who knows.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
You don't seem to know very much about strength training.

You seem to know very little about Wing Chun, but hey you seem to be in good company

If you can do manage to do weighed chin-ups without creating excessive muscle mass then fine, but please read carefully my previous post on how I do them.

And again, chin-ups are not internal training, but are a way of building strengh and resistance without contradicting the principles of internal training.

[unkokusai]

a kung fu newbies who comes to these forums for advice does not need to be fed crap about the "uselessness" of kung fu formes and "Internals" by knucklehead crosstrainer MMAists


Yeah, they just need to be told to use the great insider secret 'Google' by a kungfu master like yourself!

[unkokusai]

Bears repeating, although D-bag there has demonstrated an aversion to answering questions of any kind:

"So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath? Since you seem to be spouting off so much recently about how you are going back to your old sifu...."

[unkokusai]

Hey, IQ of -8:

How about the style you supposedly study there in London? What name does it go by?

How about your teacher? What name does he go by?

How about anyone he ever fought? What names do they go by?

How about your first language? What name does it go by?

I know what name the source of all your sage advice to anyone who asks a question about WC goes by: Google.

I know what name you go by here, as on BS: Mud.

[SoCo KungFu]

Oh and BTW, Mr. I've been blue balled at least 8 times....

My Israeli friend Eli, who happens to be former army in his old country (and pretty good at Krav Maga), wants to have some time with you for all those things you said about the Jewish population....

[HardWork8]

And just for a bit of advice...
I hope that it is not Kung Fu advice...:rolleyes:

I suggest you wear some sunglasses
Actually I am wearing sunglasses right now as it is impossible to read this thread without the glowing red glare coming out of your and your fellow kickboxers' butts.

And you haven't seen the light in years....

Well I know you, Sanjuro, cjurakpt,Unkokusai and Ikfmdc haven't. But no worries one they y'all take your heads out of your a$$'s and you will see the light and you will realize that you don't know Jack$hit about kung fu.

haha ya get it? ;)
I believe that right now you are the one who is GETTING IT!;)

I made a funny
You have been making a "funny" in these forums for a long time. The funniest one of your funnies was the first time you said that you practiced kung fu.....Believe me, I am still laughing on that one.

[HardWork8]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
Ok then. Since you were replying too a post that mentioned deadlifting and squatting I think you should know that they are the furthest things from "isolating mucles" that one person can do, they are compound exercises that work the WHOLE body and its many path ways, pretty much every strength trainer know this.

Animal walking? HAHA look ma I'm a tiger!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
ST does NOT build muscle mass UNLESS you eat in a way that makes gaining
mass your goal.




Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
As for chins, unless you are only doing low reps of chins because you are too "weak" to do more or perhaps have added weight because you are too strong, you would typically be doing reps in the 10+ range, ie: pumping your muscles, the very thing you said you are against.



Quote:
Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin
You don't seem to know very much about strength training.



You have just demonstrated your and Sanjuro's (and others) ignorance regarding internal principles of kung fu and their relationship with external training...do continue to show us your lack of knowledge and make a bigger idiot out of yourself then I have made out of you.:)

[HardWork8]

Oh and BTW, Mr. I've been blue balled at least 8 times....

My Israeli friend Eli, who happens to be former army in his old country (and pretty good at Krav Maga), wants to have some time with you for all those things you said about the Jewish population....

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't know about Ikfmdc misquoting my posts in a way that showed me as a satanist, nazi anti semetic. In short the whole thing was a prank and you were probably aware of it as were Sanjuro, Unkokusai and cjurakpt....the moral icons of the Kung Fu Forum.

It funny how knuckleheads always pick on the non-knuckleheads and miss the idiotic behavior of fellow knuckleheads. Maybe this cognitive condition is related to the Sore Butt syndrom administered by me. If so, then I am sorry :D

[HardWork8]

Bears repeating, although D-bag there has demonstrated an aversion to answering questions of any kind:

"So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath? Since you seem to be spouting off so much recently about how you are going back to your old sifu...."
:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

Yeah, they just need to be told to use the great insider secret 'Google' by a kungfu master like yourself!


....Who has a lot more to offer than a "rasslin" retard such as yourself!

[HardWork8]

I have nut-boy troll on ignore, so I don't actually know what he's been posting, but I'm curious about his taiji chin-ups? what kind of weirdness is that?

Good to have you back. Finished reading your weekend dosage of Donald Duck comic books already?

Oh by the way, as you very well know, "taiji chin-ups are an invention of yours and your fellow forum Sore Butt kickboxer buddies as a part of a running smear campagn against me.

Another significant invention by you lot is the facade that pretends to be practicing kung fu. However this and all your other "inventions" are being taken apart by me piece by piece.

Soon the only place you people will be posting is the forum for martial artists of below average intelligence and questionable morality. Come to think of it, I think you are too stupid to even qualify to post there...but then that is your problem and you should take that up with to your mom, and your dad (if you know his identity, that is).

[cjurakpt]

ok, got it; although it didn't include a description of how they were done, so I can't comment specifically

however, in general one can make an argument for doing "strength" training "internally", but it's really just semantics on top of a certain type of probably yogic-origin approach; our Yik Gan Ging contains various "exercises" that would be considered "body weight" strength training, including stuff that looks like Hindu squats, Hindu push-ups and back bends, as well as a few others that are more side-line type work; it's sort of a semi-aerobic / strengthening thing; the "difference" is what you are trying to do: you are not going to obviously get the sort of hypertrophy that that you would get power-lifting; as far as doing chin-ups "internally", the only problem is that one of the key aspects of internal training is one's relationship with the ground, vis a vis the notion of "floating" the body structure on the ground reaction force's upward thrust in response to deep diaphragmatic breathing; chin-ups are not something classically part of qigong practice - but again, if you "rode" off the connective tissue structure, it could work; personally though, I prefer press-ups - chin-ups train biceps, pecs, lats and shoulder internal rotators - flexor muscles that tend to be hypertonic to begin with, and that tend to work against upward postural oritentation; meaning that, for every chin-up. I'd want to do 2 to 3 press-ups or similar closed chain anti-gravity extensor work to counteract that, and is, from a postural perspective, generally disorganizing; and actually, all the "strength" training in qigong is of this nature: closed kinetic chain, anti-gravity ostural organization-based; meaning that the "creators" of yik gan ging (yik gan - sounds a lot like "yo ga", him? my teacher's idea, based on his research) understood the challenges of maintaining vertical posture in gravity (no surprise there...)

animal walking is an actual qigong practice - Five Animal Frolics (as it is often translated) is considered one of the earliest Daoist practices; it is shamanic in origin and it has nothing to do with strengthening or martial arts per se - it is a general tonification / harmonizing practice; classically it is the tiger, monkey, deer, crane and bear that are represented (don't know about lizard...); there is no magic to it, it works with GRF, balances postural responses, clears lymphatics;

all the rest is just urban myth;

[SoCo KungFu]

You have just demonstrated your and Sanjuro's (and others) ignorance regarding internal principles of kung fu and their relationship with external training...do continue to show us your lack of knowledge and make a bigger idiot out of yourself then I have made out of you.:)

Dumba$$....

Think you can figure out who that is? (http://www.williamccchen.com/AK05.jpg)

Here I'll give you a hint....

At the age of 11, he started the study of T'ai Chi Chuan under the guidance of his father, Grandmaster William C.C. Chen. In addition to his San Shou accomplishments, Max has won 12 gold medal, four silver medals, and three bronze medals in T'ui Shou (Push Hands) since 1995.

Max has been a teaching assistant at Grandmaster Chen's school in New York City since 1997. He teaches T'ai Chi and San Shou at the school and teaches San Shou training and conditioning classes/workshops in New York and Europe.

[SoCo KungFu]

animal walking is an actual qigong practice - Five Animal Frolics (as it is often translated) is considered one of the earliest Daoist practices; it is shamanic in origin and it has nothing to do with strengthening or martial arts per se - it is a general tonification / harmonizing practice; classically it is the tiger, monkey, deer, crane and bear that are represented (don't know about lizard...); there is no magic to it, it works with GRF, balances postural responses, clears lymphatics;

all the rest is just urban myth;

haha no joke huh? when he said it I had this mental image of a pasty lil scrawny dude walking around on all fours going grrrrrr grrrrrr and trying to swat at flies....

[cjurakpt]

haha no joke huh? when he said it I had this mental image of a pasty lil scrawny dude walking around on all fours going grrrrrr grrrrrr and trying to swat at flies....

well, there's no guarantee he is doing it correctly...if you don't understand how to do "turtle breathing" during the "deer walk" for example, you are wasting your time...

[lkfmdc]

This is so entertaining they could charge admission

HardWork8 is self destructing before out eyes...

EXPOSED for the LIAR he is

EXPOSED as a beginner wannabe

DISOWNED by the people he claims to study with, they basicly said he is the ultimate tool and needs serious mental health counseling

And, of course, adding more and more people who want to beat the pulp out of him along the way

:rolleyes:

[cjurakpt]

And, of course, adding more and more people who want to beat the pulp out of him along the way

:rolleyes:

what would #'s 2 and on up do after the first one on line wiped up the floor with him?

but now he is interested in CLF, evidently - see, even the purists eventually get su(ked in by our proud tradition of cross-training hacks!

[SoCo KungFu]

well, there's no guarantee he is doing it correctly...if you don't understand how to do "turtle breathing" during the "deer walk" for example, you are wasting your time...

You know that can actually be a pretty darn confusing thing tho that tortoise breathing. I've been exposed to at least 3 different methods with advocate a tortoise breath and they have all been different. Tho the actual exercise posture is different as well. When I first started learning Hung gar sifu had me do a gung that had a tortoise posture with simply long slow breathing. Tho the posture was stagnant and it was a kind of horse stance and thus not at all comfortable. Prior to that I had learned another tortoise breath in an dynamic tension capacity in the old Iron Mountain gung from my mantis days. Then there are things like the tortoise breath proposed such as that by Jou, Tsung Hwa in Dao of Taijiquan....seems like **** near everything in TCM and CMA that have anything to do with health/longevity refer back to the turtle....

So in short lame brain probably doesn't have a clue. And neither do I for that matter. Got any good links or reference material? I won't ever do it myself but you got me curious. I'd like to read up some.

[cjurakpt]

You know that can actually be a pretty darn confusing thing tho that tortoise breathing. I've been exposed to at least 3 different methods with advocate a tortoise breath and they have all been different. Tho the actual exercise posture is different as well. When I first started learning Hung gar sifu had me do a gung that had a tortoise posture with simply long slow breathing. Tho the posture was stagnant and it was a kind of horse stance and thus not at all comfortable. Prior to that I had learned another tortoise breath in an isotonic capacity in the old Iron Mountain gung from my mantis days. Then there are things like the tortoise breath proposed such as that by Jou, Tsung Hwa in Dao of Taijiquan....

So in short lame brain probably doesn't have a clue. And neither do I for that matter. Got any good links or reference material? I won't ever do it myself but you got me curious. I'd like to read up some.

if anything, our approach would probably be closest to Master Jou's (actually, my sifu was a senior student / assistant instructor for him back in the '70's before he met si-gung, although he doesn't really teach taiji / qigong from that particular perspective - but he did get a lot of his I Jing stuff from him, as well as some Daoist..."under the covers" stuff...); as far as published resources, all I can say is that I have not seen our particular style's version published anywhere, but then again 90% of what I have learned from my sifu I haven't seen anywhere else (our taiji lineage has him as 3rd generation from Yang Lu Chan through an extra-familial branch - the 1st and 2nd generation guys both studied with their respective teachers when young and taught when old); in fact, up until a few years ago, he was very low profile, didn't advertise, and when I first met him ~13 years ago, it was in-door referral only (he basically accepted me because he liked that I spoke Cantonese and that I am a PT, which his wife is also); so it wouldn't surprise me if our turtle breathing was very different from other approaches

that said, it would be very hard to describe the tortoise breathing without demoing it live - it actually involves almost a slight gulping w/the throat at the top of the breath along w/a rolling of the shoulders forwards - but it's not forced, it's in context of the associated movement - I agree at first it can feel awkward, but it should never feel uncomfortable; it is a biotch though - it took me about 8 years to finally figure it out...when I did, it made a huge difference (I'm still working on the physiology of it, it's a bit more tricky than some of the other stuff...)

if you are ever in NY / LI, let me know, we can compare notes directly

[unkokusai]

.... a "rasslin" retard such as yourself!




Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

[unkokusai]

....Who has a lot more to offer


I dunno...let's see:


www.google.com


I did it! Yay! I'm officially a kungfu master now!

[HardWork8]

This is so entertaining they could charge admission

HardWork8 is self destructing before out eyes...

EXPOSED for the LIAR he is

EXPOSED as a beginner wannabe

DISOWNED by the people he claims to study with, they basicly said he is the ultimate tool and needs serious mental health counseling

And, of course, adding more and more people who want to beat the pulp out of him along the way

:rolleyes:


:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

Dumba$$....

And my name is Hardwork8, "pleasure" to meet you.

I did not know that you used more than one forum name....

Think you can figure out who that is? (http://www.williamccchen.com/AK05.jpg)

The link didn't work just like your pseudo kung fu, I suppose?


Here I'll give you a hint....

Oh yes, he won some shiny medals a dream scenario for all knuckleheads.

By the way, did you say cjurakpt's surname was Chen? Is he chinese? I seem to remember checking a link that he provided after one of his d1ck waving episodes. I don't recall him looking oriental in the picture in that site.

Anyway, if it is him you are talking about in your post then I must admit his credentials look impressive but then so do yours, until that is you start making idiotic statements about kung fu and in cjurakpt's case participate in an Ugly and untasteful prank that no kung fu traditionalist who has practiced since the age of 11 would participate in.

So you can both take your paper credentials and shiny medals and stick them where the sun don't shine, next to your heads, I presume.

[HardWork8]

ok, got it; although it didn't include a description of how they were done, so I can't comment specifically

however, in general one can make an argument for doing "strength" training "internally", but it's really just semantics on top of a certain type of probably yogic-origin approach; our Yik Gan Ging contains various "exercises" that would be considered "body weight" strength training, including stuff that looks like Hindu squats, Hindu push-ups and back bends, as well as a few others that are more side-line type work; it's sort of a semi-aerobic / strengthening thing; the "difference" is what you are trying to do: you are not going to obviously get the sort of hypertrophy that that you would get power-lifting; as far as doing chin-ups "internally", the only problem is that one of the key aspects of internal training is one's relationship with the ground, vis a vis the notion of "floating" the body structure on the ground reaction force's upward thrust in response to deep diaphragmatic breathing; chin-ups are not something classically part of qigong practice - but again, if you "rode" off the connective tissue structure, it could work; personally though, I prefer press-ups - chin-ups train biceps, pecs, lats and shoulder internal rotators - flexor muscles that tend to be hypertonic to begin with, and that tend to work against upward postural oritentation; meaning that, for every chin-up. I'd want to do 2 to 3 press-ups or similar closed chain anti-gravity extensor work to counteract that, and is, from a postural perspective, generally disorganizing; and actually, all the "strength" training in qigong is of this nature: closed kinetic chain, anti-gravity ostural organization-based; meaning that the "creators" of yik gan ging (yik gan - sounds a lot like "yo ga", him? my teacher's idea, based on his research) understood the challenges of maintaining vertical posture in gravity (no surprise there...)

animal walking is an actual qigong practice - Five Animal Frolics (as it is often translated) is considered one of the earliest Daoist practices; it is shamanic in origin and it has nothing to do with strengthening or martial arts per se - it is a general tonification / harmonizing practice; classically it is the tiger, monkey, deer, crane and bear that are represented (don't know about lizard...); there is no magic to it, it works with GRF, balances postural responses, clears lymphatics;

all the rest is just urban myth;

First of all, as far "internal chin ups" are concerned, then there is no such a thing. This concept was invented by you or perhaps some of your forum kickboxer buddies. The point I had made in that particular thread is that the correct manner of doing chin ups does not contradict internal principles as taught to me and as opposed to doing weight training or even press ups.

The above is a short paragraph so I hope that you and your "brain" can negotiate your way through it without taking too many brain cell casualties.

As far as the rest of your comments go, then you seem to be lost in forest looking for your mind. However, I was impressed by your technical jargon.:rolleyes:

[HardWork8]

haha no joke huh? when he said it I had this mental image of a pasty lil scrawny dude walking around on all fours going grrrrrr grrrrrr and trying to swat at flies....
Look stop making fun of Unkokusai who is my cognitively challenged friend! Stop that!

PS. Unko is not scrawny and believe me neither am I....wrong again!:rolleyes:

[SoCo KungFu]

The link didn't work just like your pseudo kung fu, I suppose?

Link works numbnuts...how bout you click it again and figure out how to pull your foot out your mouth....

[HardWork8]

Link works numbnuts...how bout you click it again and figure out how to pull your foot out your mouth....

I tried four times !!!! So maybe it works sometimes, like your kung fu???

[HardWork8]

if anything, our approach would probably be closest to Master Jou's (actually, my sifu was a senior student / assistant instructor for him back in the '70's before he met si-gung, although he doesn't really teach taiji / qigong from that particular perspective - but he did get a lot of his I Jing stuff from him, as well as some Daoist..."under the covers" stuff...); as far as published resources, all I can say is that I have not seen our particular style's version published anywhere, but then again 90% of what I have learned from my sifu I haven't seen anywhere else (our taiji lineage has him as 3rd generation from Yang Lu Chan through an extra-familial branch - the 1st and 2nd generation guys both studied with their respective teachers when young and taught when old); in fact, up until a few years ago, he was very low profile, didn't advertise, and when I first met him ~13 years ago, it was in-door referral only (he basically accepted me because he liked that I spoke Cantonese and that I am a PT, which his wife is also); so it wouldn't surprise me if our turtle breathing was very different from other approaches

that said, it would be very hard to describe the tortoise breathing without demoing it live - it actually involves almost a slight gulping w/the throat at the top of the breath along w/a rolling of the shoulders forwards - but it's not forced, it's in context of the associated movement - I agree at first it can feel awkward, but it should never feel uncomfortable; it is a biotch though - it took me about 8 years to finally figure it out...when I did, it made a huge difference (I'm still working on the physiology of it, it's a bit more tricky than some of the other stuff...)

Listen if you are not careful with all this d1ckwaving you are likely to damage the furniture around you.:rolleyes:



if you are ever in NY / LI, let me know, we can compare notes directly

I am glad that you said "notes"!:eek:

[HardWork8]

Stop that. The mentally retarded do not exist for you to use as a joke or a put-down. STOP THAT.

But YOU do!

[SoCo KungFu]

I tried four times !!!! So maybe it works sometimes, like your kung fu???

Or maybe you just can't take getting owned all the **** time and can't man up...

[HardWork8]

Hey SoCo,

The linked worked now!!!:)

Ok the lady on the left is cjurakpt, but who is the guy dressed like kickboxer on the right????

[SoCo KungFu]

Hey SoCo,

The linked worked now!!!:)

Ok the lady on the left is cjurakpt, but who is the guy dressed like kickboxer on the right????

At the age of 11, he started the study of T'ai Chi Chuan under the guidance of his father, Grandmaster William C.C. Chen.

The force is not with you today is it.....you're even more dim-witted than usual....

[HardWork8]

Or maybe you just can't take getting owned all the **** time and can't man up...

Owned by a photo??? Listen you guys need get out more often. I mean get out of your mental institutions.

Do you watch a lot of Sci Fi tv while you are interned and on heavy medication? Well stop taking that medication, it is nothing but harmful chemicals.

It is much better to practice your internal forms...whoops, I forgot that you believe forms to be outdated. Better get back on your medication then, FWIW you make very entertaining posts while you are under the influence.:rolleyes:

[SoCo KungFu]

Owned by a photo??? Listen you guys need get out more often. I mean get out of your mental institutions.

Do you watch a lot of Sci Fi tv while you are interned and on heavy medication? Well stop taking that medication, it is nothing but harmful chemicals.

It is much better to practice your internal forms...whoops, I forgot that you believe forms to be outdated. Better get back on your medication then, FWIW you make very entertaining posts while you are under the influence.:rolleyes:

No come on who is in the photo? You're making smart a$$ comments about external training this and internal that....who is the fighter in the photo? I'm gonna tell you right now, his "internal" is a lot better than yours. But I guess he's just another glorified kickboxer right? Come on douche bag....who is he?

[HardWork8]

The force is not with you today is it.....you're even more dim-witted than usual....
You guys are just nothing but glorified and punchdrunk kickboxers and you call ME dim-witted???

At the age of 11, he started the study of T'ai Chi Chuan under the guidance of his father, Grandmaster William C.C. Chen.

Christ, tai chi uniforms have changed since I last saw a class:eek:
Don't tell me, you have managed to turn grand art of Tai chi into the "grand" art of kickboxing. Wow, that is great. Thousands of years of evolution destroyed by a couple of knuckleheads who believe that kung fu forms are "outdated".

I have figured it out now, you are in that photo, but who is the kickboxer to your right? By the way, you've got great jugs;), and you being a woman surprised me a bit, but hey women have a right to practice kickboxing too and to be knuckleheads, just like men.

You should mail your photo to Sanjuro ronin, he needs as many ladies with jugs pictures as he can as he posts them on the boards as soon as he encounters one of his frequent "foot in the mouth" moments (and no that is not a new kickboxing technique, it is an old one:D).

[SoCo KungFu]

You guys are just nothing but glorified and punchdrunk kickboxers and you call ME dim-witted???



Christ, tai chi uniforms have changed since I last saw a class:eek:
Don't tell me, you have managed to turn grand art of Tai chi into the "grand" art of kickboxing. Wow, that is great. Thousands of years of evelution destroyed by a couple of knuckleheads who believe that kung fu forms are "outdated".

I have figured it out now, you are in that photo, but who is the kickboxer to your right? By the way, you've got great jugs;), and you being a woman surprised me a bit, but hey women have a right to practice kickboxing to and to be knuckleheads, just like men.

You should mail your photo to Sanjuro ronin, he needs as many ladies with jugs pictures as he can as he posts them on the boards as soon as he encounters one of his frequent "foot in the mouth" moments (and no that is not a new kickboxing technique, it is an old one:D).

Awesome so not only do you **** off everyone here but you dis the son of probably the most prominent taiji master still living. Nice job....I'm sure Andria can't wait to have you back there pumpkin...

[HardWork8]

Awesome so not only do you **** off everyone here but you dis the son of probably the most prominent taiji master still living. Nice job....

The Question is first of all what has the son of the most prominent taiji master had got to do with cjurakpt, Sanjuro ronin and you?

And then,
what are you doing there standing next to him in that photo?

[HardWork8]

Furthermore, maybe you should contact him and tell him about your views on the uselessness of kung fu forms training and tell him a couple of your "chi ****" jokes that you are so fond of....I wonder what he and his father will think of you.

Just in case you didn't know, which you probably didn't, many traditional kung fu schools (who teach forms, chi kung and other tradtional ways) also teach sanda. Nobody is criticising that!

I am only criticising the knucklehead culture of cutting corners for the sake of appeasing one's malefunctioning attention span.

You still haven't told me what it was that you were doing in that picture. :D

[SoCo KungFu]

The Question is first of all what has the son of the most prominent taiji master had got to do with cjurakpt, Sanjuro ronin and you?

More to do with you and your taiji chinups idiot. And about half the other overworked cliches you spew out all over the place...

[unkokusai]

Bears repeating, although D-bag there has demonstrated an aversion to answering questions of any kind:

"So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath? Since you seem to be spouting off so much recently about how you are going back to your old sifu...."

[SoCo KungFu]

You have just demonstrated your and Sanjuro's (and others) ignorance regarding internal principles of kung fu and their relationship with external training...do continue to show us your lack of knowledge and make a bigger idiot out of yourself then I have made out of you.

Remember that statement there $h!t-for-brains? So come on what is it gonna be? Heaven forbid a taiji guy lift weights and do cardio. So by your rationale his San Shou training is counter productive to his taiji....

Just in case you didn't know, which you probably didn't, many traditional kung fu schools (who teach forms, chi kung and other tradtional ways) also teach sanda. Nobody is criticising that!

Oh to the contrary you just were. So what is it? Come on BlueBalls8...what's it gonna be?

[HardWork8]

More to do with you and your taiji chinups idiot. And about half the other overworked cliches you spew out all over the place...

You guys are the ones who invented the concept of Tai Chi chin ups...I have never stated anything regarding this idiotic concept that only you guys could come up with.

That is it. It continues..you guys invent a lie and then continue repeating the lie hoping or knowing that many readers wont bother to check your story out. Well if you are accusing me of talking about TAIJI CHIN UPS then please PROVIDE THE LINK WHERE I SAY THIS!

Christ, you even bring the son of a famous taiji master into the discussion implying association.

Christ what would the poor man think if he found out how the kung fu forum's Sore-Butt kickboxing knuckle heads look upon traditional training. Now that is the question.

You know, your whole existance on this planet is dissing the Tai ji master and his son!

[HardWork8]

Bears repeating, although D-bag there has demonstrated an aversion to answering questions of any kind:

"So, HW8, riddle me this batman. How do you plan to get back in good graces with Andria Pivcevic after his group pretty much publicly branded you as a psychopath? Since you seem to be spouting off so much recently about how you are going back to your old sifu...."

Well provide me with a link to where it says that and I will answer your question!

[SoCo KungFu]

You guys are the ones who invented the concept of Tai Chi chin ups...I have never stated anything regarding this idiotic concept that only you guys could come up with.

That is it. It continues..you guys invent a lie and then continue repeating the lie hoping or knowing that many readers wont bother to check your story out. Well if you are accusing me of talking about TAIJI CHIN UPS then please PROVIDE THE LINK WHERE I SAY THIS!

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50650&page=2

Start with post 16 there chumpstyle

[HardWork8]

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50650&page=2

Start with post 16 there chumpstyle

You still haven't provided a link to where I am supposed to have talked about
TAI