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zuti car
04-18-2008, 01:54 AM
Here is some clips from "Serbian traditional wing chun assotiaon" . Serbia was , and still is a country with largest number of TWC clubs and most qualified instructors in Europe . Leader of assotiation is Dejan Mikic , who have almost 30 years of experience in TWC .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-aQYeCxO1U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ3XpvFA4h0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL61IpwcS2A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QlvlLmdUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDBy4gdzvGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffl5URMJrM0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtGKqCL1j4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yne2jS3BjfM

zuti car
04-18-2008, 04:08 PM
TWC master from Serbia Sifu Mikic Dejan playing special version of Sil Lim Tao, with breathing and muscule contration wich can be found only in this form . This form is not ,and newer was a part of William Cheung's system , and is brought to Serbia by master Bozidar Gabersek from Australia, one of the first students of William Cheung . Gabersek create this form with help of several Qi-Gong masters from China and Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGgc02h95fU

zuti car
04-20-2008, 12:37 AM
On April 6th in Belgrade was organized very succesfull whole-day seminar of the Serbian ICU branch(International Combat Union-
http://www.internationalcombatunion.org/) . It was conducted by :

GM Prof. Boris Krivokapic, LL.D.- ICU President
8th Dan Hapkikwan,
8th Kostrov's Universal Fisticuffs,
6th Dan Taekwondo,
5th Dan Hoshinkido Hapkido, etc

Mr. Dejan MIKIC
3rd Master Level Wing Chun

GM Nebojsa Milosevic
8th Dan Aiki Budo,
3rd Dan Hapkikwan

Dr. Mirko Ostojić
10th Dan Ninjutsu

Mr. Srdjan RATKOVIC
5th Dan Ju Jutsu

Mr. Goran Sturanovic
6th Dan Aikido

Here is some TWC clips from seminar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85qr7lThZv8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JejGiVZBQQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvreHq9PNP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Ie5JjM2g4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdxdDj2Jocg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cwNMTJiqRU

zuti car
04-21-2008, 08:24 AM
Some more clips, traditional wing chun weapons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vFNC3z863w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zjGwaIsc5o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfAFMBt5oaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfYt1PIKHMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp5AB9ONk7k

zuti car
04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
Some interesting TWC demonstration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Kl4V7qbsM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qp-_AlCqyA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah_g6fodKG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRfC7D5f70

zuti car
05-08-2008, 12:34 AM
SLT techniques- fighting applications


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4UAuKqa78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0trgtbSI4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCv9_psyziI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5FPqWopbZw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBjbu4q9so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdH-3oAq_0I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfOz56CN4Vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uiilp88E0L4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8yF4q4Pesk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X3sl4YkZvE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCpmcJkqQwQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RLFvpwOQI8

zuti car
05-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Some basic things explenation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMYS3GKoF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQW7y3WInhE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqlDofypZWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6uDiZItL9Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGp49VLI3AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Z0Q3A0IX0

zuti car
05-30-2008, 03:20 PM
On May 25th in Belgrade was organized very succesfull whole-day seminar of the Serbian TWC Assotiation . It was conducted by :

- TWCKFK “Pozarevac”from Pozarevac,
- TWCKFK “Zeleznicar” from Nis
- TWCKFK “Valjevo” from Valjevo
- TWCKFK “Sabac” from Sabac
- TWCKFK “Zajecar” iz Zajecara
- TWCKFK “Dim Mak” from Lacarak
- TWCKFK “Tao”from Kraljevo
- TWCKFK “Beograd” from Belgrade
- TWCKFK “Pinkum” from Veliko Gradiste
- TWCKFK “Kraguj” from Kragujevac
- TWCKFK “Vranje”from Vranje
- TWCKFK “Gadzin Han” from Gadzin Han
- TWCKF Sekcija “Uzice” from Uzice,
- TWCKF Sekcija “Trstenik” from Trstenik
- TWCKFK “Guan Di” from Krusevac
- TWCKFK “Irig” from Irig

Also , we had represntatives from Emin Boztepes" EBMAS" federation and Andreas Hoffmans "Shaolin Weng Chun" federation , TWC club "Skopje" from Republic of Makedonia ,Avram Aleksandar EWTO instructor from Switcherland

There was a friends from other martial arts :
Radojica Spasovic 8. Dan Real Aikido
Boris Krivokapic 8.Dan Hapkikwan ,6.dan Taekwondo 5.dan Hapkido
Srdjan Ratkovic 5.Dan Ju Jutsu , founder of Urbanjutsu style
Master Yong Ming with his Nan Chuan club from Novi Sad
Manojlovic Jovan , cheef instructor for Serbian branch of International Krav Maga Federation
Eskrima Master Sucevic Igor

short video clip from seminar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln68UEjXj3A

zuti car
06-10-2008, 01:32 AM
Some more clips from seminar

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lv6qctz_DW8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhOQo1Xv4Y
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TVefoY_FJp4
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Blraamblk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KVsQpXPQ97M
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z5XW_XlGZEw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gpxLBzbU0e0
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pNPYdVvtG5k

zuti car
06-12-2008, 06:45 AM
Clip from "Martial Arts Nght" , one of the bigest MA events in this part of Europe

http://www.youtube.com/v/lrW5UZWDKg0

zuti car
06-22-2008, 11:15 AM
Seminar in Kraljevo

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=p3BlMjLIjmU
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hGYZRHKqmfg
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=raa5f4tdnS4

zuti car
07-15-2008, 12:34 PM
Bob Gabesek system - biu jee form

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mDe76Fp5eTE

sanjuro_ronin
07-15-2008, 12:46 PM
Bob Gabesek system - biu jee form

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mDe76Fp5eTE

I have concerns whenever someone labels their WC the "REAL" WC.

Sihing73
07-15-2008, 01:15 PM
I have concerns whenever someone labels their WC the "REAL" WC.

Yeah, but it's all REAL at least to someone ;)

sanjuro_ronin
07-15-2008, 01:19 PM
Yeah, but it's all REAL at least to someone ;)

Which means all the others ones are fake.
How very "wing chun".
:D

Sihing73
07-15-2008, 01:33 PM
Which means all the others ones are fake.
How very "wing chun".
:D

I think you missed my point, I meant all WC is REAL to someone, thus none are fake :D

It's all a matter of perspective. :p

zuti car
07-15-2008, 02:15 PM
It is just a name , nothing else

sanjuro_ronin
07-16-2008, 04:25 AM
It is just a name , nothing else

I know, just sounds arrogant and uncalled for.

KPM
07-16-2008, 11:10 AM
I know, just sounds arrogant and uncalled for.

I agree. It gives the strong message that any Wing Chun methods that are different from those of the person saying this....are NOT the "real" thing and therefore substandard or somehow "false".

Phil Redmond
07-16-2008, 08:02 PM
I agree. It gives the strong message that any Wing Chun methods that are different from those of the person saying this....are NOT the "real" thing and therefore substandard or somehow "false".
I agree. I never say someone's WC is substandard but I will say that form was different from the way we do it.

Ali. R
07-17-2008, 05:31 AM
I agree. I never say someone's WC is substandard but I will say that form was different from the way we do it.


How true, I think your choice of words in the past were; others are modified and yours is "traditional" (authentic)… :)


Take care,


Ali Rahim.

sanjuro_ronin
07-17-2008, 05:51 AM
How true, I think your choice of words in the past were; others are modified and yours is "traditional" (authentic)… :)


Take care,


Ali Rahim.

Well, saying that a WC system ( or any system) is tradional, modified or modern is one thing, saying it is REAL tends to state that all the rest are NOT REAL.
Big difference.

Ali. R
07-17-2008, 06:41 AM
I just repeated what he said to me personally and agreed with his statement also… “Modified” (not authentic/false), “traditional” (authentic/real), then again you might be right… :D

Humm, maybe that’s why he posted it that way in the title of the clip, because they’re always taught from the beginning of their studies that their system is “traditional” and others are “modified” in which might have prompted the word “real”…

Take care,


Ali Rahim.

Phil Redmond
07-17-2008, 07:02 AM
How true, I think your choice of words in the past were; others are modified and yours is "traditional" (authentic)… :)


Take care,


Ali Rahim.
I don't use the term modified. It's divisive.

Ali. R
07-17-2008, 09:00 AM
I don't use the term modified. It's divisive.


It’s good to have a change of heart dealing with those terms…:)

Take care,


Ali Rahim.

zuti car
07-20-2008, 04:21 PM
I will say that form was different from the way we do it.

This is one of the first versions of third form learned in Willam Cheungs academy in Australia in the early 80 s .

Phil Redmond
07-20-2008, 06:17 PM
This is one of the first versions of third form learned in Willam Cheungs academy in Australia in the early 80 s .
I was refering to the wide movements and the stomping on the ground like in the video. You should never stomp on the ground in any lineage of Wing Chun. You should always place your feet on the ground with control so that you can interrupt if you need to. Bak Mei, Lung Ying, and some other styles stomp but not WC.

zuti car
07-21-2008, 04:57 AM
I was refering to the wide movements and the stomping on the ground like in the video. You should never stomp on the ground in any lineage of Wing Chun. You should always place your feet on the ground with control so that you can interrupt if you need to. Bak Mei, Lung Ying, and some other styles stomp but not WC.

Like i said , the form was teached by William Cheung , maybe it is wrong now , but 30 years ago was correct

Lee Chiang Po
07-21-2008, 08:23 PM
I only watched some of the Sil Lim, and yes, it is somewhat different. I don't see that it is wrong though. Still looked WC to me. I don't think that you will ever see authentic today. Authentic has disappeared into history. What we see now is everyone's personal representation. When all these Chinese guys came over here to the US with Wing Chun, there were still 10,000 more Chinese still in China that did a form of Wing Chun. So who knows what is authentic? If it was taught in the Chinese army, do you realize how many people have served in their army up to then?

zuti car
08-10-2008, 02:01 PM
Some old clips

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8GoxTng-5Cc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c70nGy5O77U
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjiNkS8xrA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHj2E3wLtQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0BHt6Xx44Ag

zuti car
08-23-2008, 04:05 AM
"Iron Palm' training in master Bob Gabersek's school in Melbourne

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BBinhhICWcY

zuti car
09-07-2008, 05:04 AM
Master David Cheung perform SLT and Advanced SLT

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g6fod4gxRdk

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=15mK4qgeUnI

zuti car
10-06-2008, 01:12 AM
TWCKF federation of Serbia organise 5 days seminar with David Cheung Sifu . Seminar will start on Friday , October 31 . in Veliko Gradiste .