Help: Feiyue and Shoes For Training

[nuxia]

I love wearing Feiyue shoes for wushu training. As anyone who has worn them knows, they quickly fall apart and only provide minimal support for a short period of time.

I've been having some knee trouble and would like to wear shoes with thicker soles for training. But Feiyues, or other slipper like brands, are very traditional for wushu.

Is this because it is better to train (jumps, tumbling, splits, etc.) in slipper like shoes? Can more traditional sneakers with thicker soles cause injury? I'd love to hear what you guys think/have experienced.

[unkokusai]

I've still got an old pair of those stylish paragons of footwear I got when I was in China back in the mid-90s.

[Pk_StyLeZ]

these shoes are awesome!!!
i have no problem with them
beside the fact there are holes in the shoes every now and then!!

[TaichiMantis]

You want to avoid shoes that lift the heel. You may want to try some volleyball or indoor soccer shoes. Both are flat bottom, allow side to side movement, and may have more arch support. The soccer shoes will have a stiffer sole.

[SifuChow]

As funny as this sounds, I actually wrote about this in my blog about a month ago. Here's the link (http://sifuchow.blogspot.com/2008/01/5-tips-to-shoe-shopping.html) if you want to check it out.

I also like the feel of Feiyue shoes and recommend them to my students but I don't think they are perfect.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

christ i missi kung fu sometimes. i love posting when drunk.

for different reasons i need similar shoes. when squatting and deadlifting i need something that keeps me close to the ground, yet doesnt squish a lot which ****s everything up. if you squish into the floor you cant generate power for squatting or pulling ... same as in rooting.

the best bang for your buck in powerlifting is converse chuck taylors. although i wore them as a kid because they were cheap, i thought it was just trendy until i tried them out. they are better than barefoot for squatting, and although i've done no extensive tma training in them, they feel great when i go through some old movements for warmup before lifting.

[kwaichang]

High top converse with good orthotics for support, for Wu Shu I like that the best . with too much heel lift there is a greater chance of rolling of the ankle and also increased chance of tendonitis of the Patellar tendon especially with alot of jumping and low squatting. Try Pumas and or Nike again with orthotics. Some of the New balance stores can fit you for orthotics from 25.00 to 200.00 KC :)

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

wrestling shoes too.

[nuxia]

very helpful folks, thank you! I'll try out some different things with orthotics.

[Chief Fox]

Here's what I used to wear.
http://www.worldsoccershop.com/departments-footwear-adidas-indoor-soccer-shoes-adidas-argentina-samba-millennium-soccer-shoes.html

I got a few years out of a single pair.

[Becca]

wrestling shoes too.Second this, with a cavite: don't use wrestling shoes if you gots to run durring class. They're fantastic for every thing else, but not running. I actually only use my mat shoes ing kung fu, never on the mat any more. Kept injuring my toes because I couldn't flex my ackles enough.:rolleyes:

[GeneChing]

I gotta sell some Feiyues here!!!

Monk Takes Off His Shoe: My Life as a Shaolin Shoe Salesman: A Shaolin Side-Trip (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=527)

Monk Takes Off His Shoe: The Sequel: My Continuing Life as a Shaolin Shoe Salesman (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=546)

black (http://www.martialartsmart.net/4535k.html) & white (http://www.martialartsmart.net/45353l.html)

[sean_stonehart]

I gotta sell some Feiyues here!!!

Monk Takes Off His Shoe: My Life as a Shaolin Shoe Salesman: A Shaolin Side-Trip (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=527)

Monk Takes Off His Shoe: The Sequel: My Continuing Life as a Shaolin Shoe Salesman (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=546)

black (http://www.martialartsmart.net/4535k.html) & white (http://www.martialartsmart.net/45353l.html)


HIGHTOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brucereiter]

my favorite shoe is vans slip ons ...

http://shop.vans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product2_10001_25101_10101_302951_-1

[sean_stonehart]

Yeah one of our guys in Athens has a pair of the solid black ones & besides comfort & support.... are cool!!!!!

I wish Vision hadn't gone under from back in the day.

[tattooedmonk]

HIGHTOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All Stars??

[sean_stonehart]

All Stars??

Neh... Chuck's are great but too $$$$$$ ....

I'm wanting Hightop Fei Yue's I turned Gene onto.

[kwaichang]

Look at the New Balance ultralights they look great. KC

[tattooedmonk]

Neh... Chuck's are great but too $$$$$$ ....

I'm wanting Hightop Fei Yue's I turned Gene onto.Too Much $$$$$?? Really? I know they have gone up over the last few years.

[sean_stonehart]

Here in ATL a pair of black Chucks... $40+

[tattooedmonk]

Here in ATL a pair of black Chucks... $40+OUCH!!!......

[GeneChing]

We *are* working on it. ;)

If it comes to pass, I'll try to arrange to comp you a pair for the tip.

[Blacktiger]

I have tried a few different MA shoes but I always come back to the old Feiyue's.

Best fit and after a while they become like socks -great sole as well unlike some of the fancy shmancy ones that have a narrow one.

Im sure they are not what the podiatrist would recommend but hell - think of its as conditioning for the feet.

:D

[sha0lin1]

I once spent $50.00 on a pair of those adidas martial art shoes, black with red stripes, they lasted me three months. The tips scraped to hell and the sole peeled back. Feiyue's last three times as long for a fraction of the price. I don't really like them when they are brand spanking new but after a month or two they are broke in just right. After I am done using them for training I lace them up one last time and push the heel down and they make a very comfortable pair of house shoes. No shoe conforms to your feet better after breaking in. In my opinion, they are the best shoe for training, last the longest, and are the cheapest, what more could you want.

[冠木侍]

Feiyue's are nice shoes and they look good as well.

What I do to make mine last is rotate my martial art shoes. I have one pair of whites, one of the black, a pair of the white tiger claws and a pair of the black ones.

This method I find works awesome for your regular outerwhere shoes as well. I looked back to when I was younger and I noticed that I used to where the same sneakers everyday. And I needed new shoes more frequently. Now, that I am older, I find that switching pairs (find a rotation system that best suits your needs) has yielded some good results.

So, back to the martial art shoes. Feiyues sometimes have tendency to slip off during push-ups or sprints so it is important to find a pair that exactly fits your foot. You need your heel to hug the shoe. So, if it is a light workout class or a class where I am an assistant, I will tread ground in the feiyues, usually.

For the regular classes, the Tiger Claw shoes have a snug fit that stay on the whole class. I like the canvas of the feiyues though. I think that it is comfortable. The tiger claw's work just as well but the wear and tear on them is much more visible. So those I try to rotate each class or each week (depending on the frequency of my training in any given week). I know these shoes will last me for a good amount of time (they'll have to because I have other financial priorities).

I have the Thunder Kicks as well but I haven't worn them yet. They are definitely not for sparring and are very bulky. Someone suggested I just use them as a regular sneaker instead of martial art shoes. Does anyone here train with Thunder Kicks?

[Pk_StyLeZ]

I don't really like them when they are brand spanking new but after a month or two they are broke in just right.

LOL>..after a month of two is usually when i have to throw them away......

[crisden]

I have had a pair of Tiger Claws for the past year and generally enjoy them, save for the fact that the width of the heel is so thin! Whenever you stand in them, you feel like you're going to tip to one side or the other.

I refuse to pay a huge amount of money for a training/sparring shoe (like the Adidas shoes). I'm going to check out these http://www.superfoots.com/turfblackshoe.html

Anyone with any experience with the Turf shoe?

[sean_stonehart]

I have had a pair of Tiger Claws for the past year and generally enjoy them, save for the fact that the width of the heel is so thin! Whenever you stand in them, you feel like you're going to tip to one side or the other.

I refuse to pay a huge amount of money for a training/sparring shoe (like the Adidas shoes). I'm going to check out these http://www.superfoots.com/turfblackshoe.html

Anyone with any experience with the Turf shoe?

Yeah ... order them a half size big. I ordered the same size I wear in most other shoes. It fit lengthwise, but the shoe was too snug for comfortable wearing.

[Andy Miles]

the best valued martial arts shoe is disciplinefootwear. I used to buy the cheap stuff every couple of months, but over the long run, discipline is good quality and is designed for martial arts. These are not remarketed converse rip offs, they are designed for us and they have invested in quality. Rather than buying pintrees every 2-3 months I have instead bought 2 pair of disciple shoes in the last 7 years. I'm due for another soon. Thats a pair every 2-3 years working out daily and wearing them around as sneakers.

http://www.disciplinefootwear.com/

[monkeyking168]

having tried a mariad of different shoes for martial arts, i finally found a shoe that will work fairly well & hold up to a pounding. feiyue & dicsciplines shoes i have found in my experience wear out too quickly & the discipline tends to separate at the sole or the leather will tear at the fore foot. i have been wearing a pair of adidas adi racers & previously a pair of adidas tuscany's for kung fu & lion dancing. the shoes themselves are similar to disciplines & other wu shu shoes but they do offer abit of a stiffer sole, arch support & a good stiff heel cup. they were originally developed for cart & car racing. i have been using my current pair for about 2 years now & they are still holding up strong. the only down side is that it takes about 1-2 months to break in but afterwards no complaints. fwiw, i train 4-5 days a week in them & they are still holding up well. i stock piled a few pairs just in case when these wear out...
cheers,
mk
p.s. they do offer these in low tops & high tops.

[冠木侍]

I've tried a few different brands. Some of the ones mentioned in earlier posts seem a bit costly though. On that note, I was thinking about getting a pairing of RingStar training shoes. I figure it would be nice to have something comfortable to walk around in when I am assisting class.

[Becca]

I want some toe shoes!!!! Sorry, I ain't calling 5 fingers; fingers is on hands not feet. But I bet those would been regular mat shoe hands and feet down.:D