Tie't Kuai Zi (Iron chopsticks)kung fu magazine article.

[Xin Yi Liu He]

Someone mentioned to me in the latest article of kung fu magazine there is a article by a man called, Dr Johnny Jang. I am not familiar with this name and I do know that there is not a lot of people practicing this art, so I would like to know who he is affiliated to?

If there as anyone who could give me some information regarding him or his teachers, etc, I would be much appreciated.

It is always nice to find someone who practices the same art.

JB.

[Three Harmonies]

I believe he is part of the O Mei Kung fu group is he not? If it is the article I just saw, and the same guy I am thinking of (either of which could be 100% off BTW). Tony Chen I think might be with them somehow, no!?!
Sorry I cannot help more,
Jake :cool:


PS Interesting article though. Would have like to have seen more apps and fighting, then just form. But heh........interesting article on a rare subject. Anyone have anymore on the use of the chopsticks/tie ci = Iron Needles in Xing Yi?

[Xin Yi Liu He]

I believe he is part of the O Mei Kung fu group is he not? If it is the article I just saw, and the same guy I am thinking of (either of which could be 100% off BTW). Tony Chen I think might be with them somehow, no!?!
Sorry I cannot help more,
Jake :cool:


PS Interesting article though. Would have like to have seen more apps and fighting, then just form. But heh........interesting article on a rare subject. Anyone have anymore on the use of the chopsticks/tie ci = Iron Needles in Xing Yi?

Ask Doug Maverick, he said he comes fro Wang Jiwu line, they have Tie't Kuai Zi in their curriculum.

JB.

P.S, in the Dai iron chop sticks form, all it is, is Za Shi performed with the chop sticks, nothing that special.

[doug maverick]

i never learned the iron needles form but yes they are in wang ji wu's line. i mean their are alot of obvious aps within the form. but some tricky ones as well.

[GeneChing]

Dr. Jang has written for us a lot, mostly on xingyi, but he's also done some articles on hung gar. You'll find several of his articles in our archive (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/index.php). He also does taiji, bagua, aikibudo and wing chun. He's actually my double shixiong. Jang started with Sifu Wing Lam back before I was with Wing Lam; we never crossed paths there. He goes to China often, mostly Hong Kong and Guangdong, and studied there under numerous masters. He has also won a few national internal titles and trained a few internal champions; most recently, Ben Tang and James Israel were training under him. He used to teach at the San Leandro O-Mei Academy and is good friends with Tony Chen. However the San Leandro school closed a few months ago and the Milpitas location was too far away for Dr. Jang's regular commute (even though he has a cherry red Porsche with CA plates that read 'tai chi':cool:). The last time I heard from Dr. Jang, he was going to start his classes up again at U.S.A Kung Fu Studio with Sam Deng in Alameda.

As for the apps of the Iron Chopstick form, I've seen him teach it and the apps are mostly just xingyi with pointy things in your hands. He had a few 'kubuton'-like qinna moves, but mostly, it played out like xingyi. You just changed your hand so that instead of striking with your fist, you did it with your chopstick.

[Dale Dugas]

pointy things rock.

[GeneChing]

One of Dr. Jang's students is in auto repair (he had a notorious appearance in our mag (http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42966)). He has access to all kinds of machinist friends, and they set to the task of making some intense steel chopsticks - just for fun, mind you. Jang used Korean metal chopsticks for the article (and for his practice) but those are light and skinny. He wanted something more formidable, like the big fat chopsticks you see at restaurants, only made of metal. So the two of them collaborated on it. I don't know if they're still working on those or if they finally reached their ultimate design.

[ngokfei]

I believe restaurant supply is where I saw some metal chopsticks made out of steel. Found that kind of funny because wouldn't heat travel up the metal and burn the cooks hands?:confused:

Definetly make them pointy. While its a nice trick to drive chopsticks into a wooden board its a whole different matter when trying that on flexible flesh.

Gene I really like the inclusion of forms once in awhile. Really makes the issue more collectable, IMO.

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So Omei is kind of like a Jing Wu like set up whre they have instructors from different styles come to teach programs?

I had thought they were just importing omei practitoners like the shaolin guys imported monks.

[GeneChing]

Forms can be a real hassle to lay out, but I like them too. The trick is finding a form that is short and simple enough to print. What I like about chopstick forms is that you could use pencils. It's basically changing xingyi fists to pointy things - a simple change for a xingyi practitioner - which is why I think this form works quite well in print.

There are definitely metal chopsticks available. The Koreans love them, but like I said, they tend to be skinny. I remember having a hilarious debate between some of our Chinese employees and Korean employees on the practicality of skinny metal Korean chopsticks. There are so many kinds of chopsticks.