Hello from Oklahoma

[Kung_Who?]

Good morning all.

I am new to the forum and would just like to say HELLO from OK.

Are there any other Hung Gar folks (or other styles for that matter) in the Stillwater OK erea here??

[Hung gar]

Tulsa. broken arrow or okc

[Sicilian Tofu M]

Hello from Broken Arrow.

[Fox]

Good morning all.

I am new to the forum and would just like to say HELLO from OK.

Are there any other Hung Gar folks (or other styles for that matter) in the Stillwater OK erea here??

Hello John,
How are classes going? :D

[Kung_Who?]

Hey Tom. Things are looking up somewhat, it will be ok,, :)

Tulsa and Broken Arrow, glad to meet ya!! I make runs to Tulsa and B.A. regular, we should have a cup of coffee one day.

BTW, what line(s) are you guys from? We are probably related, as not many lines in OK to choose from.

[Hung gar]

Buck sam kong

[MasterKiller]

I'm bringing one of my fighters to Skiatook in Sept. Any of you guys attending the Miletich fights?

[Kung_Who?]

Buck sam kong

Cool, I am also in the BSK line, via Sifu Keith Cullors of Sapulpa (Sifu passed from this world around 9 years ago as I found out last year).

Which OK Rep are you under??

[Hung gar]

Ray Hildreth

[Kung_Who?]

Yep, related, lol.

I have never personaly met Sifu Hildreth, except by phone, but hear from others in the fam that he is a very good teacher, maybe we will meet up one day.

Ray Hildreth

[specialed]

I'm bringing one of my fighters to Skiatook in Sept. Any of you guys attending the Miletich fights?

To answer your lame troll attempt, no. None of them really fight anyway:) They might see this and get a bit ****y and defensive, but no, none of them fight.

[MasterKiller]

To answer your lame troll attempt, no. None of them really fight anyway:) They might see this and get a bit ****y and defensive, but no, none of them fight.

What the hell are you talking about? I asked if anyone was going to the fights, not fighting.

Unpinch your panties.

[Kung_Who?]

Well, it is nice to see a few Hung Gar folks close by.
It may be too much to hope for, but do any of you from the erea remember Sifu Keith Cullors from sapulpa OK or know any of his students??

Kinda a quest I have been on for a while.

Thanks.

[Hung gar]

To answer your lame troll attempt, no. None of them really fight anyway They might see this and get a bit ****y and defensive, but no, none of them fight.

I do fight I have done muay thai and san da;)

[specialed]

I do fight I have done muay thai and san da;)

thats very good. when, where, fight record, and do you use your hung gar?

[Hung gar]

The muay thai was in muskogee i lost he had more gas than i. The san da wwas in tulsa

[Takuan]

Hey Kung_Who?

I'm in the OKC area, doing Yang Taiji, and Quan Yin CLF.

Are you with the Siu Lum Pai organisation in Tulsa? I had a buddy that used to be there, but had to move away :(

Nonetheless, great to have more Okies on here! :P

[Kung_Who?]

Hey Mark.

My Sifu (Keith Cullors) informed me of the Si Lum Pai, but it seems that our Grand Master, Don Morrison ( Who is my current Sifu), branched off to form his own orginazation, thus removing us from the SLP, though we all still retain the greatest respect for Sigung Kong and the SLP.

What was your buddies name??


John.


Hey Kung_Who?

I'm in the OKC area, doing Yang Taiji, and Quan Yin CLF.

Are you with the Siu Lum Pai organisation in Tulsa? I had a buddy that used to be there, but had to move away :(

Nonetheless, great to have more Okies on here! :P

[Kung_Who?]

Hey Broken Arrow, I see from your website you are under Timothy Layman, would this be the same Jimmy Crane I spoke with some weeks ago about our common lineage of Sigung Don Morrison??

I see a couple of the CLF forms we study listed on your website, do you teach the entire Si Lum Pi system or stick to mainly Hung Gar with the two CLF forms as extras??

Still looking forward to that Cup of Coffee we were to have before I got busy here.


Hello from Broken Arrow.

[Sicilian Tofu M]

Hi, my name is John, Jimmy Crane's my Sifu, Your right we don't teach the Si Lum Pi system except the CLF. Now the CLF and others are prerequisite to prepare you for the Hung Gar forms. I think all of the Okies (including me born & raised in upstate NY) meet for BBQ and eat like family. I know I'm cheesey

[Vajramusti]

Born in India but some good years in Oklahoma... Stillwater (OSU/Oamc), Edmond(Central Okla) and Norman (OU) and OKC- late wife was from Tulsa and Okmulgee(Creek tribe). I boxed and fought in Oklahoma days. I have been in Wing Chun since 1976- teach in Tempe
(www.tempewingchun.com). Still basically an Okie. Before my good wife passed away- I was thinking of teaching wing chun in Oklahoma-possibly Tulsa. But life has its zig zags.
My yougest son goes back often- is involved in his tribe.
A good student of mine teaches wing chun privately in western Arkansas.

joy chaudhuri

[Sicilian Tofu M]

joy chaudhuri you know my co worker steve Fuller I think he went to school with your son in Okmulgee small world.

[Kung_Who?]

Ok, I only saw a couple of clf forms listed (brief glance), and the HG of course.

The SLP system is a bit vast, as is that of Grandmaster Morrison; What branch of the tree do you pull your curriculum from??

Hi, my name is John Jimmy Crane's my Sifu, Your right we don't teach the Si Lum Pi system except the CLF. Now the CLF and others are prerequisite to prepare you for the Hung Gar forms. I think all of the Okies (including me born & raised in upstate NY) meet for BBQ and eat like family. I know I'm cheesey

[Sicilian Tofu M]

Sifu Timothy Layman, who do you pull your curriculum from??

[Kung_Who?]

Sifu Keith Cullors and Sigung Don Morrison. As I said, we share a common branch here, Sigung Morrison was Sifu Layman's Sifu.

The Curriculum on your site looks much like that of Sifu Cullors in the 80's. I have been gone from the game for a long while and have put myself on a bit of a quest to find old classmates and brothers, as well as anyone from the Lineage of my old Sifu.

So far, I have found Sigung Morrison, and have spoken to Sifu Crane on the phone, dont seem to be many from the old days left.


Sifu Timothy Layman, who do you pull your curriculum from??

[Vajramusti]

joy chaudhuri you know my co worker steve Fuller I think he went to school with your son in Okmulgee small world.
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((Yup.Thanks for the note and hello to Steve. Steve and I have had some nice email chats.He knew my nephew Lance who is like a son to me.At the end of his junior year in Okmulgee, Lance was the number one heavyweight seed in Oklahoma high school wrestling.He left for Arizona after that. Lance's early wing chun training helped him with his hands and balance.
Good wishes to you Okies. Hope Texas loses this fall. One of my current students does both Greco Roman and wing chun.
Earlier this year he became an All American at his weight. Joy Chaudhuri))

[Sicilian Tofu M]

It would be interesting if Sifu Keith Cullors and Sifu Layman knew each other, sometimes we meet up I'll ask him for you. If I came off a bit angry, sorry I haveing a bad month so far.

[Hung gar]

Sifu Keith Cullors and Sigung Don Morrison. As I said, we share a common branch here, Sigung Morrison was Sifu Layman's Sifu.

The Curriculum on your site looks much like that of Sifu Cullors in the 80's. I have been gone from the game for a long while and have put myself on a bit of a quest to find old classmates and brothers, as well as anyone from the Lineage of my old Sifu.

So far, I have found Sigung Morrison, and have spoken to Sifu Crane on the phone, dont seem to be many from the old days left

When did Don Morrison become a sigung :rolleyes:

[Sicilian Tofu M]

its the relationship/title one calls your sifu's sifu, its not a rank.
Don Morrison had many students get to sifu status.

Trivia Question, which one of Don Morrison's students became his Si-Di ? (its easy)

[Kung_Who?]

Yes, as most Kung Fu styles track lines, your Sifu's Sifu will be your Sigung.

From Sigung Morrison, we had David Terry who finished training Keith Cullors (Originaly under Sigung), who Started my training. In respect, this would actually make Sigung my Great Grand Master.

However, Sigung Morrison is also Grandmaster of our orginization as the founder and head of Ten Tigers Kung Fu schools. In this respect, having compiled the system we now follow, he is a system (not style) head and thus a Sigung.
It is my understanding that this was done with the blessings of Sigung Buck Sam Kong. This is important, as, while anyone is free to found your own orginization, it is not considered a valad move unless your Sifu has given their blessing on the action.

Hope this has helped.

When did Don Morrison become a sigung :rolleyes:

[Kung_Who?]

Yes, I am aware of that one a well, though I was only made aware of this fact in the last year.
Hung_Gar should know the answer to that one as well,,,, :)

its the relationship/title one calls your sifu's sifu, its not a rank.
Don Morrison had many students get to sifu status.

Trivia Question, which one of Don Morrison's students became his Si-Di ? (its easy)

[Kung_Who?]

Understood, and no worries. Yes, by all means ask for me. While I am perfectly satisfied with Sifu Morrison and his teachings, I would really like to find some fellow students. Sifu had lost touch with Sigung and most of us never met him, I did not until Mr Hildreth directed me to him in my search for Sifu Cullors, for which I will alwayse be greatfull to Sifu Hildreth. I feared the line of Keith Cullors may have died with him until Sigung agreed to Honer the position granted by Sifu Cullors. (Yes, I am very much for students being dedicated to Sifu's and Lineage tree's)

It would be interesting if Sifu Keith Cullors and Sifu Layman knew each other, sometimes we meet up I'll ask him for you. If I came off a bit angry, sorry I haveing a bad month so far.

[Sicilian Tofu M]

A skilled, Honorable, Moral Sifu is a treasure to be sure. Sense your in Mr. Morrison org did you have to change anything in your school?

[Kung_Who?]

My premission to teach came from Sifu Cullors some 20 years ago, and came with some very strict conditions. Namely that I was to teach the exact art he taught me, the exact way it was taught to me.

This was not an easy thing to do as not many will commit to such a strict training, but out of respect for my Sifu I continued to do just as he had instructed me to do any time I trained anyone.

That said, when I came under Sigung, yes, there were some changes.

First, Sigung honered the descission of Sifu Cullors to allow me to teach, and invited me into the familly.

Second, I was relieved of the burdon to teach the exact way I had been taught, which makes it easer to hold students (Sifu Cullors was a bit hard core, as this I take it was the way he and others of that time had learned)

Now I am making a few changes to forms to conform, and finding that I still have many forms to learn for our complete system but overall Sigung is very good to work with, and I was not required any major changes in my own school.

If you have specific questions, feel free to call me, my number is on my website.


A skilled, Honorable, Moral Sifu is a treasure to be sure. Sense your in Mr. Morrison org did you have to change anything in your school?

[Sicilian Tofu M]

How is everybody, their is a state of emergence in OKLAHOMA 280,000 with out power including me (I'm at work).

[Hung gar]

My neighborhood is the only one in north tulsa with lights