US Open San Da Championships

[lkfmdc]

US Open San Da Championships
Part of the USKBA World Championships
There will also be forms competition, etc
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Wildwood Convention Center, Wildwood NJ

Tournament format / Amateur competition for Men and Women
A class (open international competition)
B class (national competition)
C class (beginners)

14 Weight Classes (WEIGH INS WILL BE DONE ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2007)
up to 125 lbs.
126-132 lbs.
133-136 lbs.
137-143 lbs.
144-147 lbs.
148-154 lbs.
155-158.5 lbs.
159-165 lbs.
166-176 lbs.
177-183 lbs.
184-190 lbs.
191-194.9 lbs.
195-209.9 lbs.
210 lbs. and above

Event Websites

www.KingofSanDa.net
www.Battleattheboardwalk.com
www.USKBA.com

Procedural Rules

1) Rounds: This event is standard tournament style, the winner of TWO ROUNDS advances
2) Length of rounds: Each round shall be THREE (3) minutes with a one minute rest period.
3) Tournament area: PLEASE NOTE: Matches will take place in THE CAGE!.
4) Safety equipment: All participants are REQUIRED to wear head gear, mouth guard and shin-n-instep protectors (heel does not have to be covered). In addition, all male participants must wear a groin cup. Boxing gloves will be supplied by the promoter.
5) Dress code: All participants must wear shorts, no long pants are permitted.

LEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) All boxing techniques and spinning back fist (1 point each)
2) All kicks to legal targets. (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
3) Sweeps to either or both legs
4) Knee strikes below the collar bone (no knees to head) (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
5) Throws and takedowns that do not violate safety rules (1, 2 or 3 points based on throw)
6) Catching kicks
7) Clinching up to 5 seconds to strike (knee) or throw (not to delay action)
8) Plowing

ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) Striking the back of the head
2) Striking the throat
3) Striking the groin (the genitals)
4) Attacking the knee joint
5) Knees above the collar bone (no knees to head)
6) Any joint attack including neck locks
7) Throwing an opponent onto head or neck
8) Throwing in a way that attacks a joint
9) Trying to force opponent out of the ring
10) Striking after break has been called
11) Striking an opponent who has fallen
12) Holding the cage either for offense or for defense
13) Putting Vaseline or grease on body
14) "Dirty tactics" including head butts, gouging, etc.

TOURNAMENT VENUE
Wildwood Convention Center
www.WildWoodsNJ.com/cc
4501 Boardwalk, Wildwood
Phone: 609-729-9000
800-WW-BY-SEA


The venue is:
1. Located on the world famous Wildwoods Boardwalk, directly overlooking the beach and ocean
2. Has 38 blocks of boardwalk fun and excitement just outside the convention center doors
3.Only 45 miles (less than an hour drive) from Atlantic City
For more information about Wildwood, NJ you can visit www.WildWoodsNJ.com

TRAVEL
TOURNAMENT HOTEL TBA

Other questions, David A Ross

info@nysanda.com

or send a letter to:

New York San Da
313 W 37th Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10018

[LeeCasebolt]

"Plowing"?

[Shaolinlueb]

ooh i havent been to wild wood in 10 years. is everything shut down there in october?

[Fu-Pow]

Is this full contact? Can you win by KO?

[MasterKiller]

Is this full contact? Can you win by KO?

Yes and Yes.

Have you never seen a San Da competition?

[bodhitree]

where do you register? how much?

[Fu-Pow]

Yes and Yes.

Have you never seen a San Da competition?

I've seen videos. San Da as a term is kind of non-informative.

[MasterKiller]

I've seen videos. San Da as a term is kind of non-informative.

Only to the uninformed.

San Da is a full-contact format allowing punching, kicking, and throwing.

[sanjuro_ronin]

No elbows ?

[MasterKiller]

No elbows ?

Not in amateur. You trying to get people hurt?

[sanjuro_ronin]

Not in amateur. You trying to get people hurt?

Nah, if I wanted to do that, I woudl use chi blasts !

I assumed because of the head gear...

Can anyone sign-up, even Uber-sexy Canadians ??

[Three Harmonies]

What is "plowing?"
Jake

[sanjuro_ronin]

I would assume "plowing" into someone for a takedown/throw.

[GreenCloudCLF]

What is "plowing?"
Jake


Last time I used this my wife got pregnant...

[lkfmdc]

No offense guys, but if you read the first post, it lists both the legal techniques and what equipment we are using

YES, you can KO someone! This is full contact (and in a cage)

Wildwood is a very cool place, by October probably not beach weather, but lots of shops, and restaraunts, etc....

Right now, working on the "super fights", looks to be Brazil vs USA mostly

[lkfmdc]

What is "plowing?"
Jake

after you catch a kick, running forward until you drive your opponent into the ground.....

[lkfmdc]

REGISTRATION INFO WILL BE UP SHORTLY
YES, there will be forms competition as part of one of the other tournaments

US Open San Da Championships
Part of the USKBA World Championships
There will also be forms competition, etc
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Wildwood Convention Center, Wildwood NJ

Tournament format / Amateur competition for Men and Women
A class (open international competition)
B class (national competition)
C class (beginners)

14 Weight Classes (WEIGH INS WILL BE DONE ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2007)
up to 125 lbs.
126-132 lbs.
133-136 lbs.
137-143 lbs.
144-147 lbs.
148-154 lbs.
155-158.5 lbs.
159-165 lbs.
166-176 lbs.
177-183 lbs.
184-190 lbs.
191-194.9 lbs.
195-209.9 lbs.
210 lbs. and above

Event Websites

www.KingofSanDa.net
www.Battleattheboardwalk.com
www.USKBA.com

Procedural Rules

1) Rounds: This event is standard tournament style, the winner of TWO ROUNDS advances
2) Length of rounds: Each round shall be THREE (3) minutes with a one minute rest period.
3) Tournament area: PLEASE NOTE: Matches will take place in THE CAGE!.
4) Safety equipment: All participants are REQUIRED to wear head gear, mouth guard and shin-n-instep protectors (heel does not have to be covered). In addition, all male participants must wear a groin cup. Boxing gloves will be supplied by the promoter.
5) Dress code: All participants must wear shorts, no long pants are permitted.

LEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) All boxing techniques and spinning back fist (1 point each)
2) All kicks to legal targets. (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
3) Sweeps to either or both legs
4) Knee strikes below the collar bone (no knees to head) (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
5) Throws and takedowns that do not violate safety rules (1, 2 or 3 points based on throw)
6) Catching kicks
7) Clinching up to 5 seconds to strike (knee) or throw (not to delay action)
8) Plowing

ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) Striking the back of the head
2) Striking the throat
3) Striking the groin (the genitals)
4) Attacking the knee joint
5) Knees above the collar bone (no knees to head)
6) Any joint attack including neck locks
7) Throwing an opponent onto head or neck
8) Throwing in a way that attacks a joint
9) Trying to force opponent out of the ring
10) Striking after break has been called
11) Striking an opponent who has fallen
12) Holding the cage either for offense or for defense
13) Putting Vaseline or grease on body
14) "Dirty tactics" including head butts, gouging, etc.

TOURNAMENT VENUE
Wildwood Convention Center
www.WildWoodsNJ.com/cc
4501 Boardwalk, Wildwood
Phone: 609-729-9000
800-WW-BY-SEA

The venue is:
1. Located on the world famous Wildwoods Boardwalk, directly overlooking the beach and ocean
2. Has 38 blocks of boardwalk fun and excitement just outside the convention center doors
3.Only 45 miles (less than an hour drive) from Atlantic City
For more information about Wildwood, NJ you can visit www.WildWoodsNJ.com

TRAVEL
TOURNAMENT HOTEL TBA

Other questions, David A Ross

info@nysanda.com

or send a letter to:

New York San Da
313 W 37th Street, 8th floor
New York, NY 10018

[Fu-Pow]

after you catch a kick, running forward until you drive your opponent into the ground.....

**** that's one of my favorite techniques. Too many injuries I guess.

[MasterKiller]

**** that's one of my favorite techniques. Too many injuries I guess.

?

It's legal.

[sanjuro_ronin]

?

It's legal.

He's referring to the injuries HE gets when he tries to do it :D

[lkfmdc]

**** that's one of my favorite techniques. Too many injuries I guess.

That technique is 100% LEGAL

[sanjuro_ronin]

That technique is 100% LEGAL

Yeah, but is it legal ?

[lkfmdc]

Yeah, but is it legal ?

NO PIE FOR YOU! :mad:

[sanjuro_ronin]

NO PIE FOR YOU! :mad:

Ok, pie is illegal, but what about "plowing" ???

[Fu-Pow]

?

It's legal.

Doh!!!! Didn't read the fine print. :o

[MasterKiller]

Ok, pie is illegal, but what about "plowing" ???

Plowing is legal as long as you don't pay for it.

[lkfmdc]

Plowing is legal as long as you don't pay for it.

oh, you always pay for plowing the field, always... it may not seem like it at first, but eventually

uh, never mind

[sanjuro_ronin]

oh, you always pay for plowing the field, always... it may not seem like it at first, but eventually

uh, never mind

:D:D:D
So true..so very true...

[IronWeasel]

No elbows ?



It doesn't mention elbows at all.

Or plowing.

[boshea]

It doesn't mention elbows at all.

Perhaps elbow strikes are covered by the catch-all "Dirty tactics", which ends in the all-encompassing "etc."


...
14) "Dirty tactics" including head butts, gouging, etc.


-brian

[lkfmdc]

LEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) All boxing techniques and spinning back fist (1 point each)
2) All kicks to legal targets. (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
3) Sweeps to either or both legs
4) Knee strikes below the collar bone (no knees to head) (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
5) Throws and takedowns that do not violate safety rules (1, 2 or 3 points based on throw)
6) Catching kicks
7) Clinching up to 5 seconds to strike (knee) or throw (not to delay action)
8) Plowing

[IronWeasel]

Perhaps elbow strikes are covered by the catch-all "Dirty tactics", which ends in the all-encompassing "etc."


-brian




Ahh..."etc." must stand for Elbows To Cranium.

[monji112000]

looks like fun, I look forward to watching. :D
I would fully enjoy some TCMA fighters competing.

[lkfmdc]

looks like fun, I look forward to watching. :D
I would fully enjoy some TCMA fighters competing.

it is open to EVERYONE, would be nice to see some traditional schools join

[wiz cool c]

lkfmdc I have got some really good Shuai Jiao Teachers from Beijing who want to go to America and do a seminar. Would you be interested in hosting such a thing.

[lkfmdc]

lkfmdc I have got some really good Shuai Jiao Teachers from Beijing who want to go to America and do a seminar. Would you be interested in hosting such a thing.

It's something we could look into.....

[bodhitree]

How Much Is Registration?

[lkfmdc]

How Much Is Registration?

I am the co-ordinator, the promoter is Ed Hsu. So I'm waiting on him for registration forms and for his site to set up online registration. I believe the pre-registration will be around $55

[WinterPalm]

So let me get this straight: elbows may or may not be legal and plowing is out...or is it in?

[IronWeasel]

ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) Striking the back of the head

Could you include this for next time?



6) Any joint attack including neck locks

This means no armbars, right?



Lastly: Are the gloves the huge boxing gloves or the open fingered mma/grappling kind?


Thanx

[boshea]

So let me get this straight: elbows may or may not be legal and plowing is out...or is it in?

If you read the rules that have been posted a few times now :p you will see that elbow strikes are not specifically mentioned, and plowing is legal. Here they are again. Note #8 in the Legal Techniques section:



LEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) All boxing techniques and spinning back fist (1 point each)
2) All kicks to legal targets. (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
3) Sweeps to either or both legs
4) Knee strikes below the collar bone (no knees to head) (below the waist 1 point, above the waist 2 points)
5) Throws and takedowns that do not violate safety rules (1, 2 or 3 points based on throw)
6) Catching kicks
7) Clinching up to 5 seconds to strike (knee) or throw (not to delay action)
8) Plowing

ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES
1) Striking the back of the head
2) Striking the throat
3) Striking the groin (the genitals)
4) Attacking the knee joint
5) Knees above the collar bone (no knees to head)
6) Any joint attack including neck locks
7) Throwing an opponent onto head or neck
8) Throwing in a way that attacks a joint
9) Trying to force opponent out of the ring
10) Striking after break has been called
11) Striking an opponent who has fallen
12) Holding the cage either for offense or for defense
13) Putting Vaseline or grease on body
14) "Dirty tactics" including head butts, gouging, etc.


Some of us surmise that elbow strikes may fall under "Dirty tactis", due to the use of the word "etc." at the end.

-b

[bodhitree]

Could you include this for next time?





This means no armbars, right?



Lastly: Are the gloves the huge boxing gloves or the open fingered mma/grappling kind?


Thanx

So let me get this straight: elbows may or may not be legal and plowing is out...or is it in?

It's really not that hard. Elbows are illegal in most amateur combat sports (mma included). Standard glove size for Sanshou is 10-12 oz.

[IronWeasel]

It's really not that hard. Elbows are illegal in most amateur combat sports (mma included).



Just wishfull thinking...

[lkfmdc]

Download a registration form now! (http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/kingofsanda/tournamentergistration.pdf)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

It's really not that hard. Elbows are illegal in most amateur combat sports (mma included). Standard glove size for Sanshou is 10-12 oz.

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The fact that they are banned in MMA just means they are not effective techniques in real fights. :D

[lkfmdc]

1. what part of "amateur" do you not understand?

2. Can you not much up my thread anymore, please

[bodhitree]

1. what part of "amateur" do you not understand?

plus one

123

[Shaolinlueb]

****. some punk's burned down castle dracula in 2002. no reason to go to the boardwalk ever again.