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MARTIALSTUDANT
09-21-2006, 09:10 AM
Alternative resistance training minus ropes and weights?

When a lot of you kind men/women talk or debate resistance training (using weight's or ripcords) while doing your forms it would appear the negatives outweighs the positives. I was wondering if you were to practice your forms in water like a pool, river, ocean or any alternate body of water would it be enough resistance and a good ideal to enhance or give new insights to your forms?

SevenStar
09-21-2006, 10:04 AM
Alternative resistance training minus ropes and weights?

When a lot of you kind men/women talk or debate resistance training (using weight's or ripcords) while doing your forms it would appear the negatives outweighs the positives. I was wondering if you were to practice your forms in water like a pool, river, ocean or any alternate body of water would it be enough resistance and a good ideal to enhance or give new insights to your forms?

I personally wouldn't do it, but to each his own, right? Are you familiar with dynamic tension? That would help you, without weights or ropes.

MARTIALSTUDANT
09-21-2006, 10:42 AM
I personally wouldn't do it, but to each his own, right? Are you familiar with dynamic tension? That would help you, without weights or ropes.

Not sure what you mean could you go into it further dynamic tension

BoulderDawg
09-21-2006, 10:55 AM
Not sure what you mean could you go into it further dynamic tension

HA!:D Looks like she's roped somebody else in!:p

SevenStar
09-21-2006, 10:59 AM
that was actually the first good pun I've seen in a while.

SevenStar
09-21-2006, 11:02 AM
Not sure what you mean could you go into it further dynamic tension

It's basically performing a movement - in this case, a form - with as much tension as possible being used throughout the movement. Hold your arm byyour side. flex it as hard as you possibly can, then curl your arm upward, while maintaining the tension. Once you've reached the top of the movement, return your arm - while still tensed - to it's starting position. that is a dynamic tension curl. practice your forms with that tension throughout your body.

bodhitree
09-22-2006, 04:42 AM
no. deadlifts, squats, benches


a martial artists best strength conditioning allies.

bodhitree
09-22-2006, 04:52 AM
pull ups, push ups, and sit ups are great too.

bodhitree
09-22-2006, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=MARTIALSTUDANT;707547]

it would appear the negatives outweighs the positives. QUOTE]


What negative? Did you make that up? You mean hard work? :confused: I'm confused?

SevenStar
09-22-2006, 07:35 AM
[QUOTE=MARTIALSTUDANT;707547]

it would appear the negatives outweighs the positives. QUOTE]


What negative? Did you make that up? You mean hard work? :confused: I'm confused?

the negatives of performing forms with weights on the wrists and ankles, is what I took it to mean. In which case, yeah, the negatives outweigh the positives.

Mr Punch
09-22-2006, 08:34 AM
Is this another one of those threads where she comes on, asks a question, get's huffy cos nobody answered the question that was really inside her head, ignores everyone's advice and says that's what she was doing anyway, and then insults anyone who answered for not spending enough time training, before buggering off again?

Just wondered.

Cos if it is, I'm taking my toys and going home.

bodhitree
09-22-2006, 09:20 AM
[QUOTE=bodhitree;707872]

the negatives of performing forms with weights on the wrists and ankles, is what I took it to mean. In which case, yeah, the negatives outweigh the positives.

Yeah, in that case I would also agree, previous statements retracted.

The Willow Sword
09-22-2006, 09:20 AM
She/whomever got dealt with yesterday when they decided to pull that way over the top trolling stunt with my OT Posts. i dont think we will see much more of that screenname. If martialstudant was serious about asking questions and getting answers they sure destroyed that credability.

some people:rolleyes: i tellya. cheers,TWS

Becca
09-22-2006, 11:42 AM
I personally have had quite a bit of success with adding weights while working segments of my forms. I had some real issues with a portion of one form in which I needed to do a 360 jump land in a crouch then back kick. Adding ankle weights helped me speed up the back kick portion very nicely.

I think the key is not adding weights for the sake of adding weights. This is forms work, not body building... :rolleyes: If you need to work one specific movement in context, then adding resistance will help, though.:)

No_Know
10-12-2006, 04:10 PM
I contemplate walls of air for the non-weights/rope resistance.

I suppose that the metal wire I wrap around my limbs might count as ropes here...won't mention (further) those then. And the jute twine loop I make for my feet smaller than my step...I like these even if they are included in persons thought of rope resistance. If it didn't count, it's mentioned-ish.

When doing T'ai Chi Ch'uan I thought my hands wrapped loosly in plastic grocery bags would help with resistance.

franco1688
10-12-2006, 08:50 PM
I used to perform my forms (and still do at times) wearing a weight vest, ankle weights and wrist weights. If you train smart (ie. perform them a little slower at first and exercise control) you should be o.k., I never suffered any negative consequences.

yenhoi
10-15-2006, 06:53 AM
I wish I had some SPJ link-fu to some SC training methods.

They basically train their forms with weights and resistance, but, I dont ever think I saw them doing entire forms, just pieces, like one throw.

Judo too... but they do it backwards, forms come last if at all.

;)

franco1688
10-15-2006, 09:19 PM
Another resistance exercise I do some times is with a six foot iron pole (bar) that I have. I practice my staff forms with it and I'll do various techniques. I'll tell you what, when I put it down and pick up my oak or rataan staff, they feel as light as feathers. It seems to not only work great for the forearms and shoulders, but it pretty much works the whole body. It really teaches you how to utilize your body as a whole behind your strikes and it builds endurance, power and strength.