Hard Qi Gong Vid

[Unfettered Palm]

Hey all..

I just put up a vid on my page: www.myspace.com/usawudang

it's me breaking 2 chopsticks off my throat. I tried this after hearing about people doing this to test their qi gong. I tested out this chopstick theory with 5 different friends. none of which practice martial arts. I do think that the mental aspect has a lot to do with it. if there is no fear, you already have an advantage. but, none of them could do it when they tried. each had their own bad results-coughing, the pain of it pushing in on them. I also think that it might not be a result of breathing techniques because one of the people who tried is a professional singer. and he knows all about proper breathing. this leads me to believe that it is the qi gong that aids in breaking the chopsticks. I am curious to hear what other practitioners think and feel on this subject.
The first chopstick-if you watch closely you could see the chopstick start to bow downward. it then resumes its natural form and then snaps when i push straight in on it. Unfortunately, the second break does not show fully--it does for me on my quicktime player when i maximize it. if i don't maximize it, i can't see the break. the second break was harder on my throat but snapped harder. one fragment bounced off my nose and the other flew right past my face. i can see it faintly when the vid ends.
I look forward to hearing all the responses and how other practitioners feel about this subject.
thank you.....
cheers.....

[fiercest tiger]

Can i ask what the purpose of the chopstick break has for fighting?

I doubt that you can take a good punch to the through let alone getting choked unconscious by a RNC.

But thanks for the clips all the same.....

Garry

[Unfettered Palm]

for fighting?
well, not unless somebody is poking me with a chopstick in the throat :o)

In 14 years i have never been choked unconscious yet. not to be ****y, but i'm far from worried about that. As far as taking a good punch to the throat--I don't know....never let anyone punch me in the throat before....I would think the adams apple would not be a fan of that sort of behavior. but, I think that qi gong can aid you enough to not take the blow directly, but in the event of being striked there and rolling it off--I think that would be applicable. Iron shirt/iron body/golden bell training is great conditioning for withstanding ordinary blows, but is also for the internal organs--doesn't mean they can get jacked in the vital areas and go unpunished.
Do you train any kind of throat conditioning?
I heard from a southern mantis practitioner that their sifu could somehow "hide" his addams apple. I try to keep an open mind, but--i'll see what you think on that...I would love to find more info out on that.....
cheers....

[David Jamieson]

bend some rebar, break a rattan shaft spear with the blade on yoru throat...that's hard chi kung. :p

busting chopsticks is a parlour trick....actually, the other two tricks are tricks as well.

in fact...quite a lot of hei gong demos are p[arlour tricks. they take only a few minutes to leran and a few more minutes to practice to perfection...because they're tricks.

[Crushing Fist]

hide your adams apple...


1. put your fingers on your adam's apple (sorry ladies, this one isn't for you)

2. press the back of your tongue down hard and pull down with your lower jaw muscles at the same time.

Voila!


and now for my next trick...

[fiercest tiger]

HAHAHA yep all tricks!!!

Let mike tyson hit you in the body, he drops people with short body rips with gloves on....lol

kung fu iron shirt PUH!:D

[charyuop]

I remember once I saw on TV something amazing. It was an American master of some kind of martial art that I don't remember. He lives and teaches in Orient (don't recall if it was China, Japan or Taiwan).
Just using the Chi he could take terrible punches and kicks without even blinking. He showed that he would easily absorb a punch streight on the Adam's apple or a powerful kick in the groin.
His students to become black belt amongst the forms and whatsoever they had to show they could do the same. In that show they showed a woman who was getting ready to get the black belt and as last test few students surrounded her and just punched and kicked and she had to stand there and take them all.

[TenTigers]

Juko-kai founder Rod Sacharnoski. Many of those people also were injured internally, and Frank DeFelice, his main demo guy reportedly died as a result of this traininng. Most of it involves phiosology, and sugestion, rather than ch'i gung.

[fiercest tiger]

I would be impressed if people that lay on bed of nails, could lay on just on nail! Or take a sledge hammer to the face rather the abdoman...lol

[charyuop]

Thanks for the info TenTigers, I didn't know that background. If so hope that MA will die out, too dangerous.