Question about crescent kicks

[RUFNTUFGIRL]

:confused:

If I am crescent kicking with the right leg in a clockwise direction, is this considered a crescent or reverse crescent. I have called it crescent for years and I rarely kick it counter-clock. But is the counter clock really the crescent kick and what I am doing a reverse crescent?

[Mr Punch]

Bearing in mind that the following comes from someone who does many MA, none of which have crescent kicks in...

but it's based on what I was taught from a relatively reliable source who did some kind of shaolin derivative.

Whether it's clockwise or anti-clockwise and what it's called will differ depending with which leg you do it! If you kick inside-out as it were, so the blade of your foot is leading I was told that's a crescent kick. If you do it outside-in with the inside of your foot leading it's a wheel kick.

[Emeraldphoenix]

inside out is reverse cresent, outside in is a forward cresent kick.


wheel kick is usually refering to a spinning kick where leg is extended through out the motion some refer to it as a spinning heel kick.

hope tis helped

[Wong Ying Home]

Bye Lin Tui = Crescent Kick
Ngoi Bye Lin Tui = Outside Crescnt Kick
Loi Bye Lin Tui = Inside Crescent kick

[David Jamieson]

swing from the hip, inside or outside they are both crescent kicks. whatever they are called in specific styles or genres still metes out as same technique.

[Crushing Fist]

I've always heard the terms "inside" and "outside"

but forward and reverse would be just as descriptive.

just "crescent" could be either.

[Oso]

i've always used 'inside' and 'outside' as well.

K. Brazier refers to the inside crescent as "Face Hanging Kick"...I like the analogy.

another teacher referred to the inside crescent as "Opposite Top" ??? never quite got why.

I like to enter with a mid level inside crescent to clear/occupy the arms while I punch at the head.

watch out because you basically feed your opponent a single leg.

[MasterKiller]

Do you guys train to hit with the foot or the shin?

[Oso]

from the ankle to 1/3 or 1/2 the way up the shin...too close to the knee=no power

if you hit with the tarsal area, you are looking to tweak the ankle.

[yu shan]

I do not use these kicks, for the reason Matt said... sort of feeding the guy your leg. I keep my kicks simple, kick to the stones and low round house to legs. Just watched the movie "Honor of the Beast" with Tony Jaa. He has some nasty defends to these crescent kicks all thru this movie.

Anybody got the Mandarin names to these kicks?

Yea face hanging kick is cool.

[Oso]

you have to come in like a train caught in a tornado to be succesfull;)


but, still, yea...most competant fighters will step inside the arc and dump you quick if you didn't stun them first.

face it, most fancy kicks are for showboating against a less skilled opponent.

although, I've seen more spin side kicks lately in the UFC.

[Judge Pen]

Spin side kicks don't necessarliy leave you in a vulnerable position if you throw them right. As for the crescent kicks, I've also heard them referred to a "neck sweeps" I like that description as well.

However, I really don't use the kicks when sparring either. Pity, because these are one of the few kicks I can do half-way decently.

[Ou Ji]

Inside and Outside Crescent kicks. That's how I've always learned them.

There's a time, place and use for everthing so I keep even the 'longshots' in my arsenal.

A while back I was playing slappy hands with a Wing Chun sifu and popped one up side his head as a test. He's tall and I've found that some tall guys will ignore high kicks because they're not used to anyone kicking that high.

He blocked it but didn't take advantage and counter. It was a slow kick too. Surprised he didn't drop me on my butt.

But yes, if I'm comfortable I'll use it in a match. Oddball techs work sometimes. I think some CMA techs worked in the past because they were unexpected. That's why the secrecy of the past. That's not true anymore so the oddball stuff has been dropped in MMA. They still work, just not so well on highly trained fighters.

Use basics against skilled, fancy against unskilled (unsuspecting).

[Crushing Fist]

Do you guys train to hit with the foot or the shin?


inside crescent = ball of foot or inside edge of heel

outside = outside edge of heel

shin would be fine but its not how I train. think of it this way:

the leg is shaped much like a big ball peen hammer

would you rather hit something with the hammer or the handle?

sure the handle will hurt, but if you lay the hammer into the jaw or temple...



Oso - I use a similar tactic, but instead of going for a punch I follow up by closing for a headlock or RNC while they "have" my leg.


and yes... the more skilled my opponent the lower my kicks get.

if I'm sparring someone with little skill or strength I'm doing cartwheels and butterflys

or acting like a monkey

just something to make it fun

:D

[PangQuan]

ive found a quick inside crescent can be quite effective. you can bring it from the outside of your opponents guard from a blind spot.

i guess though its all about set up and who your fighting.

some people i would never even attempt a kick above my waist, others i would KTFO with them.

[Oso]

Oso - I use a similar tactic, but instead of going for a punch I follow up by closing for a headlock or RNC while they "have" my leg.

:p


I like to punch them sqare in the face...like that...and go

'that feels good, don' it?'

'No? really? c'mon....yuuuuuu love it!'

and hit em in the face again.



and FTR, I close to clinch and throw purty muuuuch...all the time.

That way, I can sit on them and spank them ala' Couture while eating a granola bar. ;)