WinterPalm
06-16-2006, 08:38 PM
I figured I would make a new thread regarding my video so as to not clutter the actual thread and make Fu Pow angry!:o
DJ,
Nothing in the set has changed. Just a different version. I originally learned the first version and then Sifu showed me the one posted above which is less than half the set and is the advanced version. It breaks down like this: 1.) You learn the set in a first version. 2.) Then an advanced version. 3.) Then you learn the last version. This is for a number of Toisan Black Tiger Sets. This is done because of the difficulity of the advanced versions of the sets makes they quite difficult to grasp at first.
When I learned the advanced version it took some time to get used to many different concepts not to mention the ambidextrous nature of the advanced version. If you look at the clip of the Iron Rings on the site the advanced version is way different. As far as I know there are advanced versions of Gung Lik Kuen and Da Kuen which I've revisited to relearn.
Sifu has also been only teaching the advanced versions of the sets for a number of years now...imagine having several versions of the same set in your head!:eek:
Anyway, in terms of modifications to sets; I think that if someone is a master or otherwise recognized skilled practioner of a system, then the modifications, if any, they make, are their decision and should be respected...I mean these systems were all made by people and people will modify them to their needs. But when Sifu shows me a movement he prefers done a different way, he will show me the movement the way he learned it and how he likes to do it. There is a big difference between slight changes and complete overhauling and/or being uneducated or trained enough to make such a judgement. Besides, forms contain the knowledge, and each person who applies the forms is going to be doing it in a different way with a different emphasis but I see the core of the sets not changing nor needing it regardless of style... That's just my opinion and I would like to hear what you guys have to say.
DJ,
Nothing in the set has changed. Just a different version. I originally learned the first version and then Sifu showed me the one posted above which is less than half the set and is the advanced version. It breaks down like this: 1.) You learn the set in a first version. 2.) Then an advanced version. 3.) Then you learn the last version. This is for a number of Toisan Black Tiger Sets. This is done because of the difficulity of the advanced versions of the sets makes they quite difficult to grasp at first.
When I learned the advanced version it took some time to get used to many different concepts not to mention the ambidextrous nature of the advanced version. If you look at the clip of the Iron Rings on the site the advanced version is way different. As far as I know there are advanced versions of Gung Lik Kuen and Da Kuen which I've revisited to relearn.
Sifu has also been only teaching the advanced versions of the sets for a number of years now...imagine having several versions of the same set in your head!:eek:
Anyway, in terms of modifications to sets; I think that if someone is a master or otherwise recognized skilled practioner of a system, then the modifications, if any, they make, are their decision and should be respected...I mean these systems were all made by people and people will modify them to their needs. But when Sifu shows me a movement he prefers done a different way, he will show me the movement the way he learned it and how he likes to do it. There is a big difference between slight changes and complete overhauling and/or being uneducated or trained enough to make such a judgement. Besides, forms contain the knowledge, and each person who applies the forms is going to be doing it in a different way with a different emphasis but I see the core of the sets not changing nor needing it regardless of style... That's just my opinion and I would like to hear what you guys have to say.