Qigong and 'personal moments'

[gruevy]

Got a frank question for you. I know you shouldn't practice qigong sooner than 24 hours after sex because of massive chi loss, but what about masturbation? Same rule applies?

Also, is it 24 hours, or just until the next day? Like, if the event occurs before bed, am I good to practice qigong when I wake in the morning?

[dwid]

Well, I'm no expert, but considering the fact that qi gong is best practiced daily, it would really suck if you weren't supposed to have sex within 24 hours.

I would say don't take anyone's word for it, experiment for yourself and see if there's an appreciable difference depending on when you have sex/masturbate relative to your qi gong practice. To be honest if faced with giving up qi gong or giving up sex, the choice would be pretty easy for me.:D

[David Jamieson]

um, there's a lot that is said about qigong and sex that is simply theoretical, sometimes true, sometimes utter hogwash.

we lose energy in all sorts of ways, sex is one of the more pleasant ways we lose energy, but it's not like it seriuously deplenishes your energy if you are moderate in your ways.

your head is not going to explode and your life will be no longer or shorter is you have a quick screw a few hours before your practice.

what is the goal? what has been achieved by others? what is claimed?

often, three starkly contrasting answers to these questions

[qiphlow]

i also have heard the 24 hour rule, but i have broken this rule on many an occasion with no perceived ill effects thus far. i notice that my concentration is not as sharp, and that my rooting is not as good for about 24-48 hours after ejaculation. from all that i've read on the subject, the precaution may be based n the fact that you deplete your jing (essence) with ejaculation, so that you cannot fill your jing, and thus convert it to chi, whic will give you the energy for continued meditation/qigong/taiji/etc. i've also read that during prolonged (greater that 20 min) sexual intercourse, you get some chi from your partner, so when you do ejaculate, the loss sort of evens out because of what you got from your partner during your session. with masturbation, it's a total waste of the energy--you gain nothing from it except for a moment of fun. so the idea is to limit your activities, and try to learn not to ejaculate if possible (this one i haven't figured out yet), so that there is nothing wasted.

[taijihottie]

If you think you might be masterbating too much, you definitely are. That doesn't just apply to qigong either. :)

[neilhytholt]

If you think you might be masterbating too much, you definitely are. That doesn't just apply to qigong either. :)

Well what's the alternative? Have sex with somebody who could cheat on you, lie to you, have STDs, and catch something?

IMHO these days unless you plan on having kids, sex should be kept to a minimum.

[dwid]

If you think you might be masterbating too much, you definitely are. That doesn't just apply to qigong either. :)

As long as you're comfortable with it, it isn't affecting your life negatively, and you aren't injuring yourself from doing it too frequently, you aren't masturbating too much.

For a healthy adult male, it is normal to masturbate daily. For many men, it is normal to do so more than once per day.

Medically speaking, it doesn't do jack to you (forgive the pun).

[neilhytholt]

As long as you're comfortable with it, it isn't affecting your life negatively, and you aren't injuring yourself from doing it too frequently, you aren't masturbating too much.

For a healthy adult male, it is normal to masturbate daily. For many men, it is normal to do so more than once per day.

Medically speaking, it doesn't do jack to you (forgive the pun).

Uh, I don't know if I'd agree with this. Medically speaking, it can be bad to do it a lot because it can use up a lot of zinc. Some people think that too little zinc can lead to swelling of the prostate gland.

[D-FENS]

When it comes to this subject (no pun intended ;) I like to refer to the Yellow Emperor's dialogue with the Plain Girl, where he expresses concern that too much sex is robbing him of his vitality. So she sets forth a series of guidelines that advises men on how to regulate their "emission frequency." Of course it's not set in stone, and everyone's different, but the general standard is twice a day if you're in your 20s, once a day if you're in your 30s, etc. etc. Again, it's more of a personal experience thing and what feels right for you.

Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go.... :cool:

[viper]

u got a ciopy of these guidelines

[D-FENS]

Sure...

http://www.hps-online.com/tsy4.htm

It's about halfway down the page.

[woliveri]

Let me ask this, if it's natural for a man to have sex every day or several times a day though out the year, how does that compare to the animal world which the Taoists observed. It seems to me that other mammals breed only once a year and then go about their lives the rest of the year. Why is it natural for men to have sex, whatever form of it, daily?

As far as Qigong goes, if a student is serious then IMO he/she should study Chinese Medicial Theory firstly and then have an idea of what they are trying to accomplish with their qigong training. Qi Gong is a Gong which means a life long training method such as Iron Palm, etc and should be thought of in that manner (IMO). Otherwise, one can just practice Taiji for health.

For general health I think sex can be less of a factor but in other training lifestyle should be adjusted.

[Nexus]

The taoists advocate moderation.

Ejaculation too frequently will lower testosterone levels and energy levels as a result. Also, if it is done as a product of masturbation, it may be less fulfilling and have a more obvious detrimental effect than that from sex. It just happens since the confidence from intercourse with another causes us to feel higher energy levels.

Just use moderation and listen to your body.