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young ho lee
04-21-2006, 01:21 PM
There's only one wing chun:"chi sim wing chun". It doesn't mean 'praising spring fist', but 'eternal spring fist'. His roots go back to shaolin. The first form is not 'siu nim tau', but 'wing chun keun also called 'sap jat keun'. Followed up with 'fa keun', saam paai fat' and 'jong keun'. The 'siu nim tau', 'cham kiu' and 'bieutze' are three parts of the 'wing chun keun' form. All the other wing chun in the world is comming from 'yip man' and is called 'yip man wing chun'. They don't have 'wing chun keun, fa keun, saam pai fat and jong keun'. They also don't have the foot work and are missing a lot of concepts (like: 'heaven, man and earth; space, energie and gravity'; push and pull').
Mr Punch
04-21-2006, 01:53 PM
Thanks...........
viper
04-21-2006, 02:35 PM
1 how long have you trained this. 2 where do you live 3 do you have any more info 4 pherhaps in the future you should word your statements better as not to offend because last time i checked there were many varients of wing chun just a observation.
Ultimatewingchun
04-21-2006, 04:16 PM
It's his first post - and he's already a contender for BEST TROLL NEWCOMER. :cool: :)
Nice goin'...
GungFuHillbilly
04-21-2006, 05:23 PM
"Oh I get it, it's very clever.
How's being clever working out for you?
Now a question of etiquette; as I pass… " - Tyler Durden
couch
04-21-2006, 05:46 PM
All the other wing chun in the world is comming from 'yip man' and is called 'yip man wing chun'. They don't have 'wing chun keun, fa keun, saam pai fat and jong keun'. They also don't have the foot work and are missing a lot of concepts (like: 'heaven, man and earth; space, energie and gravity'; push and pull').
I don't have footwork? Crap.
I can't push or pull? Crap.
And what the heck is "earth?"
This really sucks. I'm totally lost. Oh, well...at least I'm not alone. ;)
I have seen Chi Sim first hand and have to say that it looks to me like a combined system of Hung Kuen and Wing Chun. I practice a mainland style of Wing Chun the difference is that Chi Sim has no centerline. There Chi Sao is more like wrestling. There sensitivity mimics Tai Chi. Wing Chun has a distict hand that Chi Sim does not reflect.
Buddha_Fist
04-21-2006, 05:57 PM
Yawn...
Somebody got a beer? :cool:
canglong
04-21-2006, 06:05 PM
And what the heck is "earth?"
Heaven from the chest and above.
Human in between the chest and the waist (hips).
Earth consist of body portion below the waist (hips).
Ernie
04-21-2006, 07:26 PM
hook -check
Line- check
sinker -check
weak minded sheep -check
Kool-Aid with secret special sauce[ making it seem better then other Kool-Aid yet still just as sugary sweet and bad for your teeth ] - check
manual with pre programmed catch phrases and cut and paste sections for internet arguments [ entitled this is how we think ] - check
silk suit , slippers , life time supply of red envelopes , and feel good speech buy some made up figure head'' who's f@rts can cure cancer '' letting you know you part of a special society [ really gives them the warm and fuzzy ] - check
pat on the back ,,,, no run on sonny boy and go tell your friends how smart you were for joining us and how lucky you were for us accepting you [ free marketing ploy from newly programmed clone ] - priceless ;)
BetaSao
04-21-2006, 07:54 PM
Actually, Young is not really correct.... there truly is only ONE kung fu system.... it is called "Apple Fu".... it is the system that Adam used to snatch the apple from the tree when he was with Eve in the garden of Eden. All kung fu systems today are branched from that, and they are all missing tons of key factors that, sadly, have been lost over time.
:D
GungFuHillbilly
04-21-2006, 08:11 PM
...life time supply of red envelopes , and feel good speech buy some made up figure head'' who's f@rts can cure cancer ''
LMAO!!!
Ernie,
You know that you are just jealous that you haven’t received your secret decoder ring yet.
But I’m here to tell you that there's still hope for you!
If you act now you too can get the secrets of the universe for only $19.95!!!
But wait…there’s more…
Call in the next 108 minutes and we will throw in:
The secret book that discloses the secret of the secrets…
But you must act now…operators are standing by…
Buddha_Fist
04-21-2006, 10:35 PM
And strangely the 108 minutes repeat themselves over and over throughout the day....
:D
Ernie
04-21-2006, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=GungFuHillbilly]LMAO!!!
Ernie,
You know that you are just jealous that you haven’t received your secret decoder ring yet.
QUOTE]
F@ck you mean it's not in the cracker jack box , i got a garage full of them hoping to find that frigg'n ring
man that means my X-ray glasses are probably a sham to :mad:
I have just discovered the oldest Martial art in the whole world [[[[ Primal primitive Combat ]]] it makes all that shoalin junk look like a bunch of bald fruits in baggy clothes crappy shoes and gay belts !
all you need is a stick and a rock and some one to bash over the head while you grunt and scream
this must be the best Martial art in the whole world since it dates back so far !!!!!
but wait theres more
there is a special secret mathematical , spiritual and zoological formula that was finger painted on cave walls !!!
it pre dates the pyramids and explains how there were built !
it depicts the path to enlightenment and flight !
all this fir a small yet substantial fee that will be deducted through out the rest of your life
if you are chosen as a closed cave disciple !!!!!!
excuse me while i go throw up :rolleyes:
bcbernam777
04-22-2006, 01:00 AM
Actually, Young is not really correct.... there truly is only ONE kung fu system.... it is called "Apple Fu".... it is the system that Adam used to snatch the apple from the tree when he was with Eve in the garden of Eden. All kung fu systems today are branched from that, and they are all missing tons of key factors that, sadly, have been lost over time.
:D
Actually it was Eve who took the fruit from the tree, so Kung Fu WAS created by a woman ;)
anerlich
04-22-2006, 09:09 AM
Actually it was Eve who took the fruit from the tree, so Kung Fu WAS created by a woman
Ah, but it was the snake that showed her the secret techniques of apple picking. And without arms!
young ho lee gets a 1.2 out of 10 on the trolling Richter scale. Quit now, you do not have the necessary talent.
Heaven, person and earth in the context mentioned actually come from TCM and predate the Shirley Temples, etc.
young ho lee
05-04-2006, 10:50 PM
I don't have footwork? Crap.
I can't push or pull? Crap.
And what the heck is "earth?"
This really sucks. I'm totally lost. Oh, well...at least I'm not alone. ;)
Heaven, man and earth is a concept. Above your chest is haeven. A punch to your head is a punch to heaven. Man is between your chest and hips. Earth is below your hips. So when i fight on the ground its earth. Also the distence is heaven, man and earth. Your fist is heaven, your elbow is man and your shoulder is earth.
young ho lee
05-04-2006, 10:58 PM
1 how long have you trained this. 2 where do you live 3 do you have any more info 4 pherhaps in the future you should word your statements better as not to offend because last time i checked there were many varients of wing chun just a observation.
I'm living in Amsterdam, Holland. If you want to have more info you can go to the follow sites: www.wingtjun.com and www.wengchun.com
I'm trained in yip man (Leung ting) wing tjun and i'm now training chi sim wing chun. In chi sim wing chun i'm just a starter in yip man wing tjun i'm a instructor.
Liddel
05-05-2006, 06:37 AM
Seems like someones visited the Mushroom Galleries to often.
A word of advice given to me buy an Amsterdam Cop "Dont Smoke too much boyz"
VingDragon
05-12-2006, 02:24 AM
Oh My God :(
tell me lee ho who brainwashed your mind?
Doug H
05-16-2006, 10:27 PM
hmm...let me guess?
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