Windsor, Ontario

[abrasax]

Hi


I was just wondering if there are any Wing Chun practitioners in Windsor, Ontario?
I noticed that there are Wing Chun classes offered on the University campus, but I'm not exactly sure who is teaching it or what their lineage is.


Serge

[Phil Redmond]

Hi


I was just wondering if there are any Wing Chun practitioners in Windsor, Ontario?
I noticed that there are Wing Chun classes offered on the University campus, but I'm not exactly sure who is teaching it or what their lineage is.


Serge
I'm in Detroit and I have students in, Windsor, and Chatham that I teach privately.
I know Sifu Edward Tam that teaches at the University of Windsor. He teaches mainstream WC. I teach William Cheung's Traditional Wing Chun (TWC). If you'd like to visit a group class in Detroit please send an email to sifupr@wingchunkwoon.com. You can find information about what I teach at; http://www.wingchunkwoon.com
PR

[abrasax]

Thanks for such a quick reply. This is very exciting, I had no idea that there was such a Wing Chun community around here. What exactly is the difference between the mainstream WC and TWC? Do your students from here go to Detroit on a regular basis, or is there a place on this side of the river where you practice?

Thanks again.

[Phil Redmond]

I go to the student's houses for private lessons on your side of the river. Group lessons are on this side of the river. There is a small group that I train in Chatham but Detroit would be closer to you.
Different Wing Chun Sifus (teachers), interpret Wing Chun differently but Wing Chun is Wing Chun.
PR

[sihing]

One of my old students is active again (for the last year and half) and is teaching in Ajax, Ontario. He also teaches TWC (check out this website www.wingchun-canada.com for more info on the association and what they teach. The contact info about the Ajax school on the website is out of date so contact me for that), but not exactly the same system as what Sifu Redmond teaches. The best thing to do is see any and all ways available to you and make your decision from there. If you want some more information on the Ajax school, Private message me and I will give you the contact details.

James

[Matrix]

One of my old students is active again (for the last year and half) and is teaching in Ajax, Ontario.
James,
Ajax is a little bit of a trek from Windsor.
It's on the other side of TO.

[snakebyte8]

Hey abrasax

The guy at the University is from the Moy Yat lineage. His sifu is Roy D'antony, who was the dai sihing at the Sunny Tang school for many years (he was with the Sunny Tang school for at least 18 years). His name is actually Edwin Tam. I would check out his "mainstream" class cuz I hear he is pretty good.:)

[Phil Redmond]

Hey abrasax

The guy at the University is from the Moy Yat lineage. His sifu is Roy D'antony, who was the dai sihing at the Sunny Tang school for many years (he was with the Sunny Tang school for at least 18 years). His name is actually Edwin Tam. I would check out his "mainstream" class cuz I hear he is pretty good.:)
You're right about the name. Thanks for the correction. The students I teach in Chatham used to study from him. That's how I met him. He'd remember me because I speak Cantonese and I told him that I was a student of Moy Yat when he was teaching in an apartment across from Prospect Park in Brooklyn back in the 70's. He's a really nice man.
PR

[Keng Geng]

I've met Edwin Tam, myself. He's a professor at the university. Biggest chinese man I've ever met, big in height and build. Explains things very scientifically, very knowledgeable. Not sure where the "mainstream" bit comes from. Challenge him, then decide if it's mainstream or not.

[Phil Redmond]

I've met Edwin Tam, myself. He's a professor at the university. Biggest chinese man I've ever met, big in height and build. Explains things very scientifically, very knowledgeable. Not sure where the "mainstream" bit comes from. Challenge him, then decide if it's mainstream or not.
Challenge him for what? He does the WC that most people do. That's why I used the term mainstream. I prefer to use the term mainstream or popular WC instead of using the divisive term "modified" like most TWC people do. I respect other WC people so I wouldn't want to call anybody's WC "modified". I really hope the person who started this thread won't think that WC people are a bunch of thugs. That challenge him remark was uncalled for.
PR

[Keng Geng]

Phil,
I didn't mean "challenge him" in an UltimateWingChun way. I just mean if you were to ever have an exchange with him - chi sau, sparring, fighting, I don't think you would be saying he's mainstream. Didn't mean to suggest that you should. Sorry for the misunderstanding. However, I'm not sure what exactly you saw, perhaps the way he teaches class is more formal. I'm also not sure what you mean by "the Wing Chun that most people do".

[Phil Redmond]

Phil,
I didn't mean "challenge him" in an UltimateWingChun way. I just mean if you were to ever have an exchange with him - chi sau, sparring, fighting, I don't think you would be saying he's mainstream. Didn't mean to suggest that you should. Sorry for the misunderstanding. However, I'm not sure what exactly you saw, perhaps the way he teaches class is more formal. I'm also not sure what you mean by "the Wing Chun that most people do".
I'm very familiar with the WC he does. I used to do it myself. In fact I was a Sifu in another version of WC before I became a student of William Cheung in 1983.

TWC is not what most people do. There are more people doing WC that is not TWC. That's what I meant. I've been doing WC for 36 + years so I must like WC.
I try to see all WC people as one family. To me the term "modified" means something was changed. I don't like to say that about someone else's passion. Maybe you have a suitable term for non-TWC Yip Man WC? I'm open to suggestions.
PR

[Keng Geng]

Since you've been doing WC for such a long time and are familiar with the myriad factions of WC, which amount to 2, according to you; you of all people should know that the lineage does not define the teacher. So I find it very difficult to buy the notion that you've done the same kind of WC as Edwin Tam.

Edwin Tam is a 3rd generation Moy Yat student. Sunny Tang's Wing Chun is very different than Moy Yat's other 1st generation students. Sunny Tang's senior students execute WC very differently from each other, especially Roy D. Anthony's. Have you been a student of Roy D. Anthony Sifu?

[Matrix]

Sunny Tang's senior students execute WC very differently from each other, especially Roy D. Anthony's. Have you been a student of Roy D. Anthony Sifu?Keng Geng,
Do you know where Roy is these days?
I haven't heard from him in some time.

[Keng Geng]

Roy Sifu runs Centerline Martial Arts Systems in Toronto. If you know him, you should visit him the next time you're in Toronto. Sifu Roy is quite open with his knowledge, as I'm sure you know.

[Matrix]

Keng Geng,
I have never met Roy personally, but he used to post here on a regular basis.
I always enjoyed his participation. If I'm ever in Toronto again, I'll look him up.

Thank you,

[Phil Redmond]

Since you've been doing WC for such a long time and are familiar with the myriad factions of WC, which amount to 2, according to you; you of all people should know that the lineage does not define the teacher. So I find it very difficult to buy the notion that you've done the same kind of WC as Edwin Tam.

Edwin Tam is a 3rd generation Moy Yat student. Sunny Tang's Wing Chun is very different than Moy Yat's other 1st generation students. Sunny Tang's senior students execute WC very differently from each other, especially Roy D. Anthony's. Have you been a student of Roy D. Anthony Sifu?
There are more that just two factions of WC. I've studied two non- Yip Man versions myself. There are lineages outside of Yip Man WC as I'll presume you know. You are right. I know the WC Moy Yat taught. I can't speak about what Moy Yat's other students do.
PR