View Full Version : BJJ VS Japanese Sumo
stonecrusher69
07-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Hey, in the UFC or some other competition fighting does anyone know if any Sumo guys ever fought anyone otherside their style and how well did they do?I was woundering base on size if a BJJ guy could handle someone like that?Could they get them to the floor? What do you think?
Finny
07-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Only sumo guys I can think of who competed in the UFC fought against striking fighters in the early UFCs.
The very first fight in the first UFC was a hawaiian sumo guy against a dutch savate guy.
The sumo guy charged across the ring, the savate guy backed up to the fence, they both collided then bounced off the fence, the sumo guy fell over, and as he was steadying himself/getting to one knee, the savate guy kicked him in the face - knocked out one of his teeth, and ended the fight.
Then in one of the other early UFCs - around UFC 4, 5, 6 or so, another black sumo guy fought Todd Hackney, a white tiger kempo guy. The sumo guy was MASSIVE - like 6' 8", and Hackney was only like 5' 7" or so.
The sumo guy walked around looking bored, while Hackney circled - Hackney occasionally entered and threw massive, looping overhand palm strikes to the sumo guys face. Eventually knocked him down.
The sumo guy ended up on his hands and knees, trying to get up, while Hackney stood over him and pounded him in the head.
Hackney obviously had no submission skills - the sumo guy was just sitting there on his hands and knees, giving hackney his back, but all Hackney could do was punch at the guys head - broke his hand on it actually, and couldn't continue.
So, both fights stopped due to strikes.
Don't know exactly what this has to do with Wing Chun, though.
negativecr33p
07-27-2005, 07:47 PM
Royce fought a sumo guy in pride once. Sumo guy layed on top of him, royce managed to create some space and throw on an arm bar. Won the fight to submission.
Mr Punch
07-27-2005, 08:08 PM
That was Akebono (Chad Rowan).
I feel really sorry for him. He was one of the best sumo wrestlers, but I think just within those rules and because of his size. Out of sumo rules, with that size, he's a beached whale. To be honest, I thought he did a reasonable job against Royce. Sure it was an arm bar, but I've seen people going faster. He can take an obscene amount of punishment, but unfortunately he doesn't have the skill-set or agility for MMA.
If he'd have had some good trainers and gone into Pride instead of K1 he'd have done a better job because he could have capitalized on his traiend skills: palms (which you can't use in K1!) and throws (which er... you can't use in K1!).
So, so far, although there have been quantity sumo sighters in MMA there have never been quality fighters from sumo in MMA. I'd have loved to have seen Chiyonofuji in MMA!
Kristoffer
07-28-2005, 12:46 AM
That was Akebono (Chad Rowan).
If he'd have had some good trainers and gone into Pride instead of K1 he'd have done a better job because he could have capitalized on his traiend skills: palms (which you can't use in K1!) and throws (which er... you can't use in K1!).
That's a very good point. Give him some good coaches and let him train his ass off for a year or two. He could probably acomplish something like that. The way I see it he has no place in K1. And I feel bad for his wife who's always crying when he fights.
Shaolinlueb
08-05-2005, 05:40 PM
two words
E. Honda
best sumo wrestler ever. hes quick. has that awesome slap move. can hit you with his hard head.
Kristoffer
08-05-2005, 07:43 PM
Yes, but he is slightly too good to enter any competitions wich are not held on a street.
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