Tan Tui's Partner Set

[ngokfei]

Is this partner set available in book or video somewhere. I learned it in HK years ago but am questioning myself on some parts.

I hate it when I don't put something down on Video. Should have followed my Sifu's example.

I learned the Chin Woo version, is there any other versions out there as well?


thanx
eric

[Jack Squat]

Yes, there is a partner set in print. It is called Northern Shaolin 12 Tantui Boxing Series by Chan Kin Man. It's the Ching Woo (Jingwu) set. I think Wing Lam may carry it.

Hope this helps.

Jack

[mickey]

Greetings,

I have that book that Jack mentions and it does not have the paired sequences; unless they added it in a later edition.

That paired sequence does not offer much in the area of technique. It was more of a public display/basic coordination set developed by Chao Lian Ho.

You may need to take a trip to Chinatown.

mickey

[Jack Squat]

mickey,

The edition that I have (second edition, 1987) shows the paired sequences, refering to them as "illistration of the use of....". It is shown at the end of each series.

I have learned the partner side of #1-3 from other sources and they are totally diffferent (as are the tan tui's themselves, depending on whose version it is).

Which paired sequence are you referring to in your middle paragraph?

Take care,

Jack

[ngokfei]

got that book too, while the form is that of the Chin Woo the parnter set is just his interpretation of the applications.

There is a partner set, Though quite simple my students want to learn it so I have to refresh my memory

Don't like to teach something then have to go back and make corrections to mistakes I made.

eric:D

[mickey]

eric,

It would really be cool if you developed your own partner set that fused Tan Tui and Eagle Claw techniques (and principles if that is possible). That would really accelerate their development.

Jack Squat,

I was referring to the two man form from the Ching Wu school. I had always felt that after observing the sequence. Then again, their may be higher levels of the paired contact that I have not seen; yet the "public display" sentiment was echoed back to me by the late Fred M.A. Wu during a phone conversation about Tan Tui several years ago. That was a fun talk.

By the way eric,

Fred M.A. Wu mentioned seeing an Eagle Claw Tan Tui a few decades ago that was very good. I do not know if he learned it or taught it to his students.

mickey

[Jack Squat]

ngokfei and mickey,

Thanks for the clarifications and info!

Jack

[ngokfei]

Tan Tui and Eagle Claw?

Oh, your taking about the Lin Kuen/linking fist set.

Yeah, the popular modern version assembled by Chan Tzi Ching is like tan tui in that it has a left -right - then left again repetion.

Actually this is a very old method for training. Not only in Tan Tui but in Fan Tzi and Min jeung styles have sets that do this same thing in their sets.

Chin Woo's locking set is called Toa Kuen/Paired Fist. it has 7 encounters. They also teach the Hop Gin/harmony combat/war which is very advanced with alot of locks and counters. We teach both along with a Sup Lok Da/16 strike set.

[mickey]

Hi eric,

Please forgive the delay. I was enjoying the energies of 11/11.

I remember that Fred M.A. Wu studied Eagle Claw in the past. So When he mentioned Eagle Claw Tan Tui, he definitely meant Eagle Claw combined with Tan Tui technuque. It was not too farfetched a concept for me because Tan Tui has grappling moves. Combining Eagle Claw would serve to highlight them.

mickey

[ngokfei]

If it exists, never heard of it. Probably they didn't know the LinKuen set.

Perhaps its something like the Wahlum tan tui thing??

[norther practitioner]

There are so many versions of tantui... I'm sure one of them might have had at some time a partner set...

[ngokfei]

yeah few know it outside the Chin Woo group. their version of the form and partner set is said to have been formulated inhouse. I've seen a Mizong version of the form and it is different.

CW is where I learned it from but my memory is fuzzy on certain sections. Haven't done it in a long time.

I heard that the Cha Quan's Tan Tui they also have a partner set. Have never seen it and many Cha practitioners don't know it either.

[mickey]

eric,

Check your PM box.

mickey

[Xiao Tang Lang]

We teach the two person set for Tan Tui lines 1 thru 5 at our school. Although we concentrate primarily on Northern Praying Mantis we do teach the Tan Tui at beginning stages. Our numbering system is a little different than most Tan Tui sets I've seen. Our road number 4 is often taught as the 6th road in most of the Tan Tui sets I've seen.

[ngokfei]

xiao tang lang

what version do you do 10 or 12?

I know the mantis group has a 14 road fro Lo Wan Yuk


what's it like and can you describe the roads

thanx

:D

[dijemput17]

Hi Eric,

I have a copy of this book. If you need it, PM me.

Tq 17

[Oso]

howdy, I'm from the same line as XTL.

yu shan and I are both working on getting some of the basic Pong Lai stuff ready for posting on our respective sites. This will include the tan tui 1-5 two person.


AFAIK, the 14 road is unique to the LGY mantis line.

I think ours is the 12 road but as XTL said we only do the first five roads in our beginning curriculum and I daresay they have gone through a revision by Master Shr.

I'll post a link once we have them up but it won't be soon...lots of projects on the burner.