Pin a merit badge on me.

[SifuAbel]

I got banned from bullshido.

[Shaolinlueb]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
I got banned from bullshido.


[pins merit badge on sifu abel]

may more men and women follow in your path :D

[Volcano Admim]

You know that I care
what happens to you,
And I know that you care
for me too.
So I
don't feel alone,
Or the weight of the stone,
Now that I've found somewhere safe
To bury my bone.
And any fool knows
a dog needs a home,
A shelter
from pigs on the wing.

[Vash]

How'd you manage to do that?

*throws merit badge*

[CaptinPickAxe]

You have rised to match such greats as SeriousHarm and the likes. Walk proudly, young warrior, for your quest is done!

j/k:D

[rogue]

Way to go SA, How and what thread?
















"The Communists had Pravda...
The Republicans have FOX"
And the stupid black helicopter crowd has MoveOn.Org"

-rogue

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

i have never seen a bullshido, but it sounds contagious.

[SifuAbel]

Oh, you know me, I got tired of some of the stupidness and started to lay it on thick to the usual suspects.

Some cool people there, but some of its mods are just horid.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
You have rised to match such greats as SeriousHarm and the likes. Walk proudly, young warrior, for your quest is done!

j/k:D

LOL!

[rubthebuddha]

actually, backbreaker just got banned the FOURTH time from kfm. one would think he'd be smArt enough to get the hint, but one would also think that germans would shower more often. ;)

[SifuAbel]

I was wondering where that fool was.

[scotty1]

bloody hell. thread?

[SifuAbel]

Just follow the devastation in trollshido.

[Kaitain(UK)]

I just went and had a look on their forums, nearly drowned in the testosterone fury. I had to have a lie down. Jeez there are some meatheads on there...

[MasterKiller]

Are you KFDW?

[David Jamieson]

Sometimes people hate traditional martial arts practice.

Some pf those people can be found at bullshido.
A few of them are frequently found here.

I think it's an ego thing personally. THey don't have the time or patience for some of teh obscure cultural practices associated with training with some of the old crew.

But maybe they got jerked over by someone who fabricated their "old crewness" :D THat happens too.

It's a fine line.

Anyway, it's all ego driven, all of it when it comes to rocketing ones mouth off or when it comes to getting banned. Someone's ego gets bruised and that's when the teardrops start. lol

People gotta learn to reign that s.hit in.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by Kaitain(UK)
I just went and had a look on their forums, nearly drowned in the testosterone fury. I had to have a lie down. Jeez there are some meatheads on there...

ROFL!!! Yes some on that board are real turnips. Some are cool , but outnumbered.

Yes I'm KFDW.

[SifuAbel]

KL,

The danger of such a site is that its dedicated to "removing the BS from martial arts" is that people will form a mindset thats all about trashing other people. Even if thge people doing the trashing are inferior MAists themselves.

It also breeds those who go on simply to become part of the clique and buy some rep. insurance before they themselves are critiqued. Some get away with the same kind of murder I do and are liked for it. By virtue of my name alone people already form opinions and make lame arse comments. Without ever even asking me about it.

Some are cool and some are actual TMA and TCMA. Some are just stupid. The really stupid ones seem to be the loudest. And two of the mods are noted whine phreaks with too much power and time.

[David Jamieson]

Abel-

I agree 100%

[SifuAbel]

LOL! They banned my next screen name already!!!!

[Shaolinlueb]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
LOL! They banned my next screen name already!!!!

someone needs to reset his ip :D and new email address.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

call your isp and tell them you think your being haxored. if your persistant and polite they'll change it.

[Ben Gash]

"In very rare circumstances posters can be banned for stupidity if they are posting material so dumb that it drives the average reader to want to gouge his or her own eyes out. " :D

[SifuAbel]

Thats 90% of the posts there.
I my case, I'm being singled out because of old grudges.

They asked for it anyway.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
someone needs to reset his ip :D and new email address.

Actually, I goofed it. I'm not used to the whole alter ego thing and posted as my self on another name. Oh well.

I only go there for kicks anyway.

[David Jamieson]

I find that while some of the guys are knowledgable on bullshiod, a lot of them are just mouthy cynics who clearly lack knowledge and likely have no skills.

But that seems to be the audiance they want there...for some reason. They enjoy tarshing Traditional martial arts. Maybe some of them were sexually abused by deviant tkd instructors early in their martial experience and now buillshido is their outlet for venting their feelings regarding their sore bummies.

anyway...:D There are way too many know nothing meatheads ranting about stuff that doesn't matter.


Here's a fact about martial arts. It's real easy to tel what is for real and what is not.

For health: Is the person healthy? Is the teacher healthy?

For fighting: Can the person fight? Can they fight well?

As an artform: Can the person express form beautifully and make it enjoyable to watch?

The ones who are pushing phony gunk will eventually be seen for what they are and pity to the morons who stick with gunk pushers for too long. But staying with someone who is teaching you nonsense long enough will open your eyes to a lot of realities and in the end can actually be good for you.

You now have the ultimate comparison quite simply.

The guys at bullshido do seem to be about 87% smcktalking though. But I know there are some decent martial artists there just like here.

the ratios will always be slightly imbalanced though.

jeers

[Phrost]

WTF, RUDY?

A. You weren't banned, just had your access temporarily limited to Trollshido for engaging in blatantly trollish behavior.

and

B. Why would this be a badge of honor anyway? Wouldn't spamming and repeated petulant, childish attempts to derail discussions be an example of EMBARASSING behavior for a "Sifu" to engage in?

Seriously, you weren't banned. Get over yourself.

I attempted to explain the reasons why you were put (like my 5 year old) in a virtual "Time Out".

The fact that you've come here to brag about your behavior demonstrates why you were restricted in the first place.

Bullshido is purposely one of the least moderated forums on the net. Do you even understand how much of an a$$ you have to be for a mod to take ANY action on you?

It doesn't matter whether or not you personally agree with the staff. I do, and that's what does.

You're welcome back whenever you chose to stop trying to **** all over every legitimate thread with useless garbage. We're actually trying to do something over there; something you've ALWAYS been threatened by, hence your moniker "KungFuDoesWork".

And for the record, no $hit Sherlock. Over half the staff has Kung Fu experience.

Jesus.

[Knifefighter]

Hmmm..

What a surprise.

Sifu Abel ****ing people off again.

BTW, Abel... I just checked out that site and I noticed that a guy from that site is hosting a Throwdown in Norco a week from Saturday. That is right down in your neighborhood. Are you going to go there and show them that "kung fu does work"?

[KC Elbows]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
Thats 90% of the posts there.
I my case, I'm being singled out because of old grudges.

Now, I'm not Admin there anymore, but I do know that none of the staff has a grudge against you, despite your running to other forums to call them names, as part of your wu de, I suppose.:p :D

[SifuAbel]

What a bunch of sanctimonious clap trap.

Pray tell, Mommy, WTF do you think is going to change by your little action? Nothing. I am as I am and will always be.

You KNEW what I was like when you first asked me, in your own words, "to be a balance for the anti-kung fu MMAers that were your primary members back them. " And, as I recall it, it was almost an extention of sherdog at the time.

You KNEW I was going to be the underdog then. And you KNOW its made some people bitter now. *cough* JKDC *cough* *cough*

You KNEW what I was like when flamed. You KNEW that I flamed back. You had plenty of it from me here.

You KNEW that I was going to get that kind of treatment for the kids on that board. You sat through countless posts by people like peedee that were in effect a thousand of times worse.

You've seen PLENTY of posts of mine that were civil.

Being relegated to Trollshido is even WORSE than being banned. Trollshido is a place were you basically put people so you can say you don't ban people. Its a place, if you haven't noticed, were the handfull of haters go on to gang post you and do all the same trolling but without the consequence. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THAT FLAME ME AND THOSE I FLAME!!!! Whats more, there nothing more to do there than flame toss all the same shmucks who do so regularly except now its in a concentrated form in a couple of threads. THERE IS NO REDEMPTION IN TROLLSHIDO, *******. It can only get worse.

Half the staff meaning Omega and Asia. Of which, Omega was opposed to It and Asia has just stop caring. The mods in question are JKDchick and Braniesansoo. Both of which have had a so-so likeing of me since before they were mods especially JKDC. Oddly enough I can't even go back and post some of her gems to me since your record is missing almost 15 months of my posts. I'm not the only one whose noted this on your board. Then your mod, who doesn't have grudge supposedly, posts this nice bit of trolling. Thats real maturity there folks.
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=15309

Then of if you want to talk about admins, theres this little gem odf a post by I choke you. Why is he tired of the board, pray tell?
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=15091

You can stick this "I'm the cool guy here stuff." It is VERY clear that people on your board only have to meet one criteria, They have to have to bow to the "movement". There are plenty of trolls that are accepted simply because they are "stormtroopers" of the "movement". They troll, make rude comments , belittle people and nothing more. And occasionally they'll pat the back of one of their buddies and that counts as a "contructive" post. Stupid........

As a prime example, shumagorath. I took a look at his post record. 95% of it was pure troll. He has more posts in trollshido , either mover of made, than anyone I seen so far. Is he banned? No. There are plenty more samples of this. Derailing threads? Are you kidding me? This is an EXCUSE. Pure and simple. So which one is it? Derailing threads that were long since done, Post *****? You can't seem to keep the charge straight, officer.


As for the mcthrowdown, I've also stated on that thread (I can always count on knifefighter to be thorough :rolleyes: ) that the dates set were not convenient for me AND for several members of the area that would like it to be in early sep. I wanted to ask Clyde if he could postpone it. But wait! Thats right! I CAN'T because I've been relegated to trollshido!!

This every thread stuff is PURE Horse chips. Its was ONE thread. I was posting fine in other threads.

I love it how people use my first name and put "sifu" in parenthesis as if it makes their comments more powerfull. News flash, its stupid!!!

Bottom line, you can go **** yourself and that lame one-eyed half-dead wonder weasel you rode in on.

"but I do know that none of the staff has a grudge against you,'

Then dude, you don't know as much as you think, you don't read much or you have a really bad memory. Which i guess is my problem, I do remember.

[KC Elbows]

The staff:

Osiris- traditional background with cross training
Phrost- traditional and mma background
Asia- traditional and mma backgound
Omega- traditional and mma background
JKDChick- JKD
Brand- mma
miguksuram- traditional background
PeeDee- mma

Seems to me there are more traditionalists in the staff than two.

As for the "grudge", you read people's posts too much at face value.

[Volcano Admim]

you forgot to add that JKDChick is helplessly in love with me

[David Jamieson]

I uh sort of...well ok, I really really like Braineesansoo's avatar!

She's Yummy!

[KC Elbows]

Kung Lek is correct.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by KC Elbows
The staff:

Osiris- traditional background with cross training
Nope. Osirus did a little TKD and became a total mma nuthugger. He had an episode with me when he was "challenging all the kung fu schools in the area." Still, not alot of lingerings with him as he chilled out and became a mod.

Phrost- traditional and mma background
A little wushu and wing chun then went MMA. satred his board while an MMAer .

Asia- traditional and mma backgound
Omega- traditional and mma background
I've never had an issue with either of these two. And they are only MMA because they practice more than one style. Omega is kung fu and wrestling. Asia is Baji, judo and wrestling.

JKDChick- JKD And one of the biggest TCMA bashers of 2002

Brand- mma Did KFSS and then joined a bjj school after being on Mcdojo for a while. Became nuthugger. Still a boy with lots of time and no friends.

miguksuram- traditional background I haven't seen his posts in a long time. Plus I've never seen him be a *****.
PeeDee- mma
If not the most gigantic azzclown on the planet. This is by far the WORST example you could use.

So far the only orginal mods are phrost and peede, the rest came later.

So of the eight, half of them have had major flames with me.

Also this isn't an MMA/TMA issue, so stop trying to make it one.

[Royal Dragon]

Personally, I don't even waste my time with that forum. I come here because everyone appears to like me, even though I can be an ass, and apparently don't know much about what I'm talking about and can't spell to save my life.

I also go to the anti Chung Moo Quan board because those guys think I'm some sort of martial God. :D

And I barely even go on my own boards anymore, because noone else does either :(

[KC Elbows]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
Nope. Osirus did a little TKD and became a total mma nuthugger. He had an episode with me when he was "challenging all the kung fu schools in the area." Still, not alot of lingerings with him as he chilled out and became a mod.

Wrong. He stands up for tkd every time someone bashes it to him, and actively uses it.


Phrost: A little wushu and wing chun then went MMA. satred his board while an MMAer .

Years of wing chun under a legitimate teacher, now jj your info is really inaccurate.


Asia and Omega: I've never had an issue with either of these two. And they are only MMA because they practice more than one style. Omega is kung fu and wrestling. Asia is Baji, judo and wrestling.

Now you're disagreeing just to disagree. Asia also does boxing, et al, and wouldn't be offended or disagree about the mma monicker. BTW, kung fu and wrestling IS mixing martial arts.

JKDChick: And one of the biggest TCMA bashers of 2002

A bit dramatic, Abel. Whose grudge is it, you're the one keeping tabs on what happened TWO YEARS AGO. Keerist. You just pretty much showed where the grudge lies.

Brand: Did KFSS and then joined a bjj school after being on Mcdojo for a while. Became nuthugger. Still a boy with lots of time and no friends.

Hm, he actively gets together with Omega and others, is good natured about his level of training, and generally tongue in cheek about style arguments and modding.

Miguk: I haven't seen his posts in a long time. Plus I've never seen him be a *****.

What does his posting have to do with his modding? Nothing. He is listed to show that you were, actually, talking out of your ass about the staff's background. Miguk mods without posting for the most part, and posts here and there, especially in the history section.

peedee: If not the most gigantic azzclown on the planet. This is by far the WORST example you could use.

Um, it wasn't an example, it was a staff member. I was listing them, remember, and he was one of the only ones without a traditional background. If you'd like me to take him off, the staff would be almost completely traditional on the new list, and you'd be even more talking out of your ass.

So far the only orginal mods are phrost and peede, the rest came later.

We're talking about the site now, right? What does this last statement have to do with anything? Nothing.

So of the eight, half of them have had major flames with me.

Which was not why I listed their backgrounds, see next point. Nor does a flame imply a grudge- especially in the case of PeeDee and Brand. BTW, odds are good Osiris isn't keeping tabs on some old Bullshido flame war he had with you, why are you?

You are so totally the one with the grudge. Seriously dude, your name never comes up between that group of staff members. Phrost is on here because he always stands up for his site and thought you were whining, and I'm here because you're just making sh1t up that is fun to disprove.

Also this isn't an MMA/TMA issue, so stop trying to make it one.

You were the one who made it one. Phrost mentioned that over half the staff had a traditional background, to which you replied "Half the staff meaning Omega and Asia." I was showing you were wrong, which you responded to by acting like you knew Phrost's background in depth, as well as Osiris', and then making a lot of non-sequitors. Well, you're mistaken about Phrost's background and Osiris', Miguk posts on and off, but his posting is not the point, his moderation is, and you argued Asia and Omega's background just to argue.

Regardless of what you want to think, well over half the staff are active users of traditional styles, and everyone on the board knows it and respects it except, apparently, you, who is too busy thinking that you are better than other trolls while openly admitting they are exactly as bad as you. If you really think JKDChick is the worst basher of TMA, you've apparently never been on the internet, OR, you just like overdramatizing.

I'll assume the latter.

2002 TMA bashers of the year. It's 2004, and you're holding a two year old grudge against someone you've never met? That just amazes me.

[David Jamieson]

wow...after reading KC's litigation...I guess I wasted my time embroidering this merit badge of banishment for Abel.

Oh well, can anyone else get themselves banned there while i still have this? Or i'll have to sell it in the next garage sale I hold.

:p

[omarthefish]

Originally posted by Kung Lek
I find that while some of the guys are knowledgable on bullshiod, a lot of them are just mouthy cynics who clearly lack knowledge and likely have no skills.

I assume you not including all the professional fighter's amateur kickboxers and submissions fighters and various professional trainers identified by the little logos above their names. Those labels are not able to be added by members. They only get the tag, "proffesional fighter" for example when the mods have been able to confirm what event and find their name on the card.


But that seems to be the audiance they want there...for some reason.They enjoy tarshing Traditional martial arts. Maybe some of them were sexually abused by deviant tkd instructors early in their martial experience and now buillshido is their outlet for venting their feelings regarding their sore bummies.


You should check the profiles. Actually I'd guess somewhere around HALF the members are traditional artists. Look at the styles listed and discussed, Kyokshin, Baji, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu. These are among the most popular arts there and are each and every one as traditional as traditional gets.


Here's a fact about martial arts. It's real easy to tel what is for real and what is not.

For health: Is the person healthy? Is the teacher healthy?

For fighting: Can the person fight? Can they fight well?

As an artform: Can the person express form beautifully and make it enjoyable to watch?


This is an excellent summary of what the site is about to me. We only call BS when someone is claiming something it is not. For example, no one rags on a guy into Capoera who says it gets you into fantastic shape and the moves look awsome. We've even got a Wushu guy who gets plenty of respect for what he does. He doesn't claim to be t3h deAdky, he's honest about his abilities and has met and sparred with a number of other members and says he really enjoyed it and learned a lot.


The guys at bullshido do seem to be about 87% smcktalking though. But I know there are some decent martial artists there just like here.

Since when is talking smack mutally exclusive with being a decent, or even an excellent martial artist?


Sorry if any of this has been covered. I have no idea how many pages this thread is and had been ignoring it because the title didn't suggest anything of interest to me.

[David Jamieson]

Omar, I would formally request that you stop taking me seriously.

I am the king of trash talk. :p

THat's right i have a crown!

King!

[omarthefish]

Originally posted by omarthefish

Since when is talking smack mutally exclusive with being a decent, or even an excellent martial artist?



I guess you fall into this category.....

[SifuAbel]

Meaning that her dislike for TCMA comes from the beginning.

BTW, The following I think says it all.

" We're actually trying to do something over there; something you've ALWAYS been threatened by, hence your moniker "KungFuDoesWork".

I picked that name simply because I knew the board in question would do vomit backflips when they saw it. So admittedly now, Phrost thinks Kungfu doesn't work? This name has no truth to it? And I picked the name beacuse I'm threatened by...............................what? What are they trying to "do"?

When I picked the name this was exactly the attitude of the board. NOW, we have TCMA people there in greater numbers. NOW.


"Look at the styles listed and discussed, Kyokshin, Baji, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu. These are among the most popular arts there and are each and every one as traditional as traditional gets.
"

This is starting to get into an MMa/TMA flame, which it ISN'T.

This has to do with particular PEOPLE not styles.

As it is, except for the Baji, the above styles are root MMA systems.

KC,

You can mince words and fly an infinate number of spins on this. Regardless of the supposed experience of some of these people, many on the board are there simply to rabble rouse. Yes, there are some cool people on that board. Is it all of them? No. Do all of them contribute? NO.

Those that have had flames with me were not just single events. In any case, all you really did was spin what I said. Osirus, phrost, asia, omega aren't in question. The issue was fair and equal treatment. Of which, the ones in question were JKDC and Brandie.

Peedee and migu are seldom seen. They are not an issue. Peedee is an azzclown none the less. I've not seem him do much mod wise either.

Doing wing chun and wushu for 2 years doesn't warrant him haveing "years of experience" . Its only 2. Nice try.

What part of, "He had an episode with me when he was "challenging all the kung fu schools in the area." Still, not alot of lingerings with him as he chilled out and became a mod.", has to do with him defending TKD? He's not an issue.

Asia and Omega treat people fairly regardless of what they do. At least they don't hide their kung fu like its a red headed step child.

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
As for the mcthrowdown, I've also stated on that thread (I can always count on knifefighter to be thorough :rolleyes: ) that the dates set were not convenient for me AND for several members of the area that would like it to be in early sep. I wanted to ask Clyde if he could postpone it. But wait! You live close to several members from that board, right? Have you ever actually gotten together with any of them and mixed it up a bit to show that "kung fu does work"? Or do you just sit behind the keyboard and whine?

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel

You KNEW what I was like You KNEW what I was like when flamed. You KNEW that I flamed back. You had plenty of it from me here.

You KNEW that I was going to get that kind of treatment for the kids on that board. You sat through countless posts by people like peedee that were in effect a thousand of times worse.


Being relegated to Trollshido is even WORSE than being banned. Trollshido is a place were you basically put people so you can say you don't ban people. Its a place, if you haven't noticed, were the handfull of haters go on to gang post you and do all the same trolling but without the consequence. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THAT FLAME ME AND THOSE I FLAME!!!! Whats more, there nothing more to do there than flame toss all the same shmucks who do so regularly except now its in a concentrated form in a couple of threads. THERE IS NO REDEMPTION IN TROLLSHIDO, *******. It can only get worse.

As for the mcthrowdown, I've also stated on that thread that the dates set were not convenient for me
Bottom line, you can go **** yourself and that lame one-eyed half-dead wonder weasel you rode in on.



hahahahaaaahahahahhahaaaahahahahhaaahaha!

Good stuff! Typical!

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by Knifefighter
You live close to several members from that board, right? Have you ever actually gotten together with any of them and mixed it up a bit to show that "kung fu does work"? Or do you just sit behind the keyboard and whine?


This is great!


I'm officially enjoying this!:D

[SifuAbel]

:rolleyes: And the haters march on...................

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
:rolleyes: And the haters march on...................

"Oh, you know me, I got tired of some of the stupidness and started to lay it on thick to the usual suspects.

Some of its mods are just horid."



The 'what-ers', Mr. Pot?

[SifuAbel]

yes, Mr kettle?

Was your post sarcasm?

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
yes, Mr kettle?

Was your post sarcasm?


Which post?

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by unkokusai
hahahahaaaahahahahhahaaaahahahahhaaahaha!

Good stuff! Typical!

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
:rolleyes: And the haters march on................... Whine it is, I see.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by Knifefighter
You live close to several members from that board, right? Have you ever actually gotten together with any of them and mixed it up a bit to show that "kung fu does work"? Or do you just sit behind the keyboard and whine?

Not really. Out here "close" is a relative term.

Omega would be coming from StBarbara. Some from orange county. Some from LA.

That was the point of postponing it. So we could ALL get together. BTW, Omega and Asia prove Kungfudoeswork all the time.

[SifuAbel]

Tsk, tsk, Tsk, such venom..................

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel



Oh, yeah. That was laughing at you, not with you.:D

[SifuAbel]

Ah how the haters follow me. Like puppies. Too bad I don't have any scooby snacks to give you.

Go on, haters, follow me to the ends of the earth.

Why are you even posting?

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
Not really. Out here "close" is a relative term.

Omega would be coming from StBarbara. Some from orange county. Some from LA.

That was the point of postponing it. So we could ALL get together. BTW, Omega and Asia prove Kungfudoeswork all the time. But you have at least one guy in Norco, which is just minutes from you, right?

[SifuAbel]

This is a perfect example, people coming out of their way to a thread that has NOTING to do with them simply because I am here.

And do nothing but troll.

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
Ah how the haters follow me. Like puppies. Too bad I don't have any scooby snacks to give you.

Go on, haters, follow me to the ends of the earth.

Why are you even posting?


haw haw! Didn't you want attention when you started a thread to brag about being banned? (which turned out to be a lie anyway)

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
This is a perfect example, people coming out of their way to do nothing but troll.


Isn't that what you started this whole thing braggin' about?

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by Knifefighter
But you have at least one guy in Norco, which is just minutes from you, right?

More like 15 miles or more. Plus I didn't even know he was there until the mcthrowdown post. He's not exactly next door. Most of the schools around here don't host people outside of their class. One school here doesn't even let you see a class without a 20 dollar initial class fee. But thats another story.

[unkokusai]

hahhahahaaahahaahahahahahahahaaaaahahahahahahahaaa aahaahahahahahahahahaaaaahahhaahahahaaaa!:D

[SifuAbel]

kookoo,

As usual, you have really nothing to say. Allt of the above is just hate. You hate me, so you follow me from post to post like a gilted lover. I don't know why you lust after me so.

[Meat Shake]

Its your purdy mouf.



15 miles isnt far btw... I had people drive 3 hours for the last throwdown here.

[unkokusai]

The show goes on! hawhawhaw!

[Knifefighter]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
More like 15 miles or more. Plus I didn't even know he was there until the mcthrowdown post. He's not exactly next door. Most of the schools around here don't host people outside of their class. One school here doesn't even let you see a class without a 20 dollar initial class fee. But thats another story. 15 miles? That's a 25-30 minute drive at most. You drive all the way into LA to catch a Dragon Festival, but 15 miles is too far when you might have to actually prove that kung fu does work... hmmm.

[SifuAbel]

What part of , I'd like it to be after aug 29, you don't understand?

What part of, others can't make it either, do you not understand?

What part of, I didn't even know he was in norco until now, don't you understand?

The straws aren't there, knife, stop reaching for them.

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
What part of , bull**** excuse, you don't understand?

What part of, bull**** excuse, do you not understand?

What part of, bull**** excuse, don't you understand?




:D

[SifuAbel]

OH would you just STFU already. you're really stupid at best.

I just PMed Clyde about a second MTD or a postponement to the first weekend of Sep. Happy?

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
OH would you just STFU already. you're really stupid at best.

It's your own fault for being so **** entertaining! Carry on!

[SifuAbel]

ugh, ignoring..................

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
ugh, ignoring..................


:D More fun than a barrel of ... hey!

[FatherDog]

Originally posted by Meat Shake
Its your purdy mouf.



15 miles isnt far btw... I had people drive 3 hours for the last throwdown here.

Hell, I drive 70 miles just to train. I just bought a Hybrid to keep my gas costs manageable.

[red5angel]

there's a lot of haterade being passed around in bullshido, it dirties my aura.

I have to drive about 20 miles to my school but it's worth it since Capoeira p0wnz!!!!

[SifuAbel]

Those places aren't exactly near by either. You're just doing some traveling. Its not the distance, its the availablity.

Plus ,I don't go where I'm not invited. To date only a few have asked me to visit their schools and none of them are around me.

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by red5angel
there's a lot of haterade being passed around in bullshido, it dirties my aura.



I just wonder how people can argue that there isn't.

[KC Elbows]

Originally posted by SifuAbel

KC,

You can mince words and fly an infinate number of spins on this. Regardless of the supposed experience of some of these people, many on the board are there simply to rabble rouse. Yes, there are some cool people on that board. Is it all of them? No. Do all of them contribute? NO.

Wow, most forum members on forums spend most of their time rabble rousing? Well, I'm glad you warned this forum.


Those that have had flames with me were not just single events. In any case, all you really did was spin what I said.

No, I responded to your exact statements, that there were only two traditionalists in the staff, which was your incorrect statement, and that there was a grudge held by two members of the staff against you, which is also incorrect, no matter how many times they may have entered into flame wars with you. On Bullshido, the ultimate conceit is to assume a flame war you're in is personal.

I responded to those specific statements because the first one was so far off base, and the second involved people I have first hand knowledge of as staff members that showed me that you were wrong.

Osirus, phrost, asia, omega aren't in question. The issue was fair and equal treatment. Of which, the ones in question were JKDC and Brandie.

So, you assume that because those two were the ones flaming you that the rest of the staff put up a big fight for ya?

[quote][b]

Asia and Omega treat people fairly regardless of what they do. At least they don't hide their kung fu like its a red headed step child.

Omega flames more than JKDChick and Brand combined, and does it to everyone. I'm not sure who you feel is hiding their kung fu, I almost always participate only on threads about internal principles and off topic, Miguk and the rest who actively use their traditional styles post regarding them.

As much noise as you're making about Bullshido, you know you're headed right back there. And as much as you like to complain, the board serves as a place to organize throwdowns, gives visible special status to fighters who walk the talk, and has a lot more good people there than you have taken advantage of, because you're still trying to prove what you do when there's no reason to anymore. Now me, personally, I wouldn't have even moded you, but saying that a staff decision is based on two people's grudges is not how the place works, the staff tries to come to consensus, and sometimes decisions that we might not agree on happen. Don't make a federal case out of it.:D

[omarthefish]

Originally posted by SifuAbel

When I picked the name this was exactly the attitude of the board. NOW, we have TCMA people there in greater numbers. NOW.



Even as more traditional artists started posting more nobody took them seriously untill the throwdowns. There hasn't been an anti TCMA thread in ages. Even the MMA trainers are cool with traditional arts, always have been. The litmus test had NEVER been TMA vs. MMA, it has been air punching vs. full or at least hard contact sparring.


"Look at the styles listed and discussed, Kyokshin, Baji, Muay Thai, Judo, Jujitsu. These are among the most popular arts there and are each and every one as traditional as traditional gets.
"

This is starting to get into an MMa/TMA flame, which it ISN'T.

This has to do with particular PEOPLE not styles.

As it is, except for the Baji, the above styles are root MMA systems.


See my above comment. The thread holding those styles together is not MMA. It is SPARRING. WHY are they root MMA systems? Shooter is up there pushing Taiji and nobody disses him. Tai freaking ji and aside from the occasional hippy jokes he gets respect because he takes his taijiquan and pressure tests it in MMA competition. Whoops! MMA again. See, nobody there really sets such a narrow definition of MMA. The arts I mentioned may be among the most popular for MMA but really MMA is just a ruleset for fighting competitions. Shooter does no training whatsoever except for traditional Yang style Taijiquan. But he goes and puts people in the ring so it's all good.

Sanda gets full props even though it is not seen in MMA. I've seen people having intelligent repectable discussions about Goju, Ashihara Karate and others. Nobody really cares that much about MMA. It's all about can you do what you say? Show up at a throwdown or even just privately manage a friendly sparring session with someone else on the board and attitudes would have been different.

The board has stopped being Sherdog-lite not because of random traditionalists showing up and posting. It's because of random traditionalists showing up and sparring with the nut-huggers. And because of peopel like Hedgehoggy(BJJ nuthugger) going out to challenge a Shaolin Do school and having a much harder time than he thought he would.

It's not haterade, it's just lots and lots of skepticism.

Put up or shut up. That's all.

[Meat Shake]

"The litmus test had NEVER been TMA vs. MMA, it has been air punching vs. full or at least hard contact sparring. "

Omar has powerbombed the correct pinning it beneath his sweating genitals.

[Mr Punch]

Abel, for someone who has a lot of interesting stuff to say on obviously a wealth of experience in fighting arts, I have never been able to believe you tendency to throw your toys out of your pram quite so quickly over a bunch of people you don't know on the net.

Your contributions on MA are often interesting even if I don't always agree, but your observations on internet nature are frankly as bad as the 14 yr-old freaks you always put down. It's amazing.

I mean look at this: you come scampering in here (like you want a ****ing merit badge, oh wait, you DO want a ****ing merit badge!) to brag about getting banned from a forum known for its nipple-jerkers, and then start moaning about your condition being worse than banning, and just look at your ****ing signature HERE! Abel's ****ing sig
If you looked up oversimplification in the websters dictionary, you would be refered to the kungfu magazine web forum.
KFM mission statement:
" We at KFM are dedicated to provide a medium for people to argue endlessly over utter minutia and semantics. To squabble over paradigm specific ideas that support the quirks of a given style. The enforcement of opinion control in order to keep the illusion of supremacy alive. This keeps certain business afloat which are based on this premise.
And finally, to provide a home for the countless teenagers that flood the forum every summer which provides martialartsmart.com with thousands of extra banner hits a day. "
There is no shortage of extreme hubris on this forum.
In case I need to point it out: it's superior, condescending and insulting to the people on here who always contribute. How ****ing old are you again?

'I don't know why I've put up with X for so long', you say! Nor the **** do we. Nobody's asked you on there as a ****ing consultant, and if you do convert anyone, it's back to the old winning the special Olympics gag.

[BM2]

After reading some of what is posted on bullshido, well it makes me feel smarter afterwards.
Ok, it is like standing next to someone a little on the ugly side. It always makes you look just a little bit better.
Bullshido has its moments, sorta like me. But the mods here do a much better job.
For the record, I like Abel's posts on KFM.

[Mr Punch]

For the record so do I, when he talks about fighting/kf. When he talks about other people's attitudes it's always like walking thru a Hall of Mirrors.

[SifuAbel]

So there is no truth in my sig? hmm?

[SifuAbel]

Bullshido is a specatcle. I've said it many times before. There are SOME cool people there. They post, they joke with each other, they contribute information, and so on. They are not the majority.

Omega flames people and its always taken with a bit of satire and its understood as such. In contrast, Greese1's and others sole purpose is to troll, insult and make one line quips. And I'm the post *****, yeah right. Some people there have over 5000 posts, most of it just one line nothings.

Many here have already stated they're agreement on this subject, so its not just me.

Finally, NOTHING HAPPENS IN A VACUUM. I've said this many times also, you flame me, I flame back. Period. Exclamation point! So the people whom flame me are somehow exempt? BS on that noise! They are the cool kids? Why? It takes two to tango. People who go out of their way to start flame wars, and follow one from post to post to do so are in dire need of therapy.

"Wow, most forum members on forums spend most of their time rabble rousing? Well, I'm glad you warned this forum."

This isn't a rebutle , this is a sample of spin that means nothing. Stop trying to paint it as a paragon of martial virtue. If I go back there again its to read what the few cool members are posting. UNFORTUNATELY, I have to wade through a TON of crap to do so. I don't go there for the CRAP.

Even on bullshido itself you'll read these same sentiments from some posters.

[Phrost]

...

I'll bet you can't name the two people I've 'defended' most over on Bullshido when it comes to moderation issues.

Here's a hint: Their usernames both start with "Kung"

One of them happens to be you.

Of course we've got some a$$holes over there, so what? We're a board dedicated to removing myths, misconceptions, and paranormal BS from the martial arts. You don't do such things without attracting opionated people.

So really, what's your point?

Kung Fu does work.

Not all of it, but the KF that's tested itself realistically against various styles, that's rid itself of the baggage of mysticism and attachment to legends and myths, that Kung Fu does work.

And the other BS is what we're working to get rid of.

Again, what's your point?

How about you let me change your asinine moniker to Sifu Abel, give you proper credit as an instructor, and you actually participate in the discussions as such...

...instead of as a troll?

[SifuAbel]

You ass hole, I HAVE participated in discussions. WHEN there actually was one. Instead of the usual flame fest troll masterbations.
I don't need YOU to give me proper credentials as an instructor. My teacher has done that already. Just whoTF do you think you are? I'll keep my monkier, thank you very much. I chose it and I'll use it. You censuring me is pure BS. And now you're trying to buy me? F.U.

One point, you can't seem to make up your mind.

" We're actually trying to do something over there; something you've ALWAYS been threatened by, hence your moniker "KungFuDoesWork"."

Its only in your addled imagination that I defend all the crap along with the good stuff in KF. If anything, I was one that always tried to make the differences you are making now.

So do me a giant favor, either put me back as I am or go to hell.

[SifuAbel]

And, even if or when this sanctioning is lifted.

This will still be true.

"If I go back there again its to read what the few cool members are posting. UNFORTUNATELY, I have to wade through a TON of crap to do so. I don't go there for the CRAP. "

[Phrost]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
You ass hole, I HAVE participated in discussions. WHEN there actually was one. Instead of the usual flame fest troll masterbations.
I don't need YOU to give me proper credentials as an instructor. My teacher has done that already. Just whoTF do you think you are? I'll keep my monkier, thank you very much. I chose it and I'll use it. You censuring me is pure BS. And now you're trying to buy me? F.U.

One point, you can't seem to make up your mind.

" We're actually trying to do something over there; something you've ALWAYS been threatened by, hence your moniker "KungFuDoesWork"."

Its only in your addled imagination that I defend all the crap along with the good stuff in KF. If anything, I was one that always tried to make the differences you are making now.

So do me a giant favor, either put me back as I am or go to hell.

If you get the last post in the thread, does that mean you win?

Anyway, seriously Rudy... do you think posting under "KungFuDoesWork" communicates anything other than a combattive, antagonistic attitude towards other members?

Trying to buy you? Where the hell does that idea come from? Anyone with legitimate credentials as an instructor gets labeled as such. It's not a reward, it's an acknowledgement.

Why not post under Sifu Abel? Do you feel threatened by the members of Bullshido? Or are you embarassed at your behavior and don't want to be associated with the troll known as KungFuDoesWork?

[unkokusai]

Originally posted by SifuAbel
You ass hole, I HAVE participated in discussions. WHEN there actually was one. Instead of the usual flame fest troll masterbations.
I don't need YOU to give me proper credentials as an instructor. My teacher has done that already. Just whoTF do you think you are?


hahahahhaahahaaaaaaahahaahahhahhaaaaahahaha!:D

This is true entertainment! The lion is getting hysterical now!

There are people from other forums coming here now just to watch this poser have her nervous breakdown!

[red5angel]

the problem with Bullshido - and all forums have their issues - is that you get a sort of sanctimonious attitude because of what it's setup to do. I've seen some good discussions on that board but there's a lot of just trash talking in general. I'd even go so far as to say there's more trash talk there then here, even on a bad day.
You get a bunch of guys together who think their debunking everything and they suddenly get the idea that they can't be wrong or anyone who disagrees has to be wrong.
For instance you get some arguing on what is and what is not real or realistic on this forum, but things sort of even out because it's just a kungfu forum with some guys on it. Bullshido is setup to call bull**** and some people get it in their heads that it's better and apparently funnier, just to call bull****. You also get alot of impressionable minds who sort of get on the bandwagon. What you end up with is a few guys who want to talk inteligently and do something about all the crap that has flooded the martial arts, and a whole lot of guys who are near mindless clones parroting what they hear form the more intelligent guys, but without the context or the understanding of what they are saying really means. You throw some guys in there who actually fight (fighting only shows YOU can fight, not that you completely understand what and what does not work by the way) and you have all the confirmation you need for the idiotic majority.
That's why I prefer KFM, we may fight and argue but for th emost part some of us fight, some don't, some of us buy into the msytical spiritual stuff, some of us don't, but most of us understand what the crap is and isn't.

[rubthebuddha]

originally, this thread was funny. now it's just retarded.

abel and phrost -- you two know how to reach each other. if you have another discussion to make, do it via those means.

unkokusai -- if you're going to troll, do it somewhere else. we're getting sick of it.