Kevin Smith to direct The Green Hornet

[PHILBERT]

http://www.newsaskew.com/talkback/1077110023,26892,.shtml

This can't be real...

[norther practitioner]

*scratches head*

OK... I guess this should be interesting.

[PHILBERT]

That photo brought back memories. I remember when I first joined KFM 2 and a half years ago, I had no idea who the Gracies were, and someone posted that he would be Kato and someone said "Yeah, he's gonna have a hard time defeating his opponents when he realizes that they won't tap"

[PHILBERT]

Because people know Will Smith and Jim West. People don't know Rickson Gracie, or hell, a Gracie for that matter. Hell, most people don't even know what UFC, NHB, Pride, K-1 or whatever is. I talk to people and ask them stuff and they look at me like I am on crack when I mention Gracie in a sarcastic comment

Me: "Royce would choke him out."
Them: "What? Who?"

They'd want an actor who people can at least look at and say "Hey that's the dude from The Matrix Reloaded...Seraph, that's the dude from Blade II", etc.

[norther practitioner]

Me: "Royce would choke him out."

Just watch out mixing your online stuff with the real world, there have been a few people known to get good beatings when they did that.

[rubthebuddha]

any truth to the rickson/kato stuff, or is badger just talking out his pooper again?

[norther practitioner]

I'd like to see someone else, but thats all good.

[PHILBERT]

Talking out the pooper

[rubthebuddha]

well, badger, it is you doing the talking ... ;)

instead of rickson, let's go with sakuraba, if only for the silly stunt factor.

[Chang Style Novice]

I want you guys to think about the "action sequences" Kevin Smith has directed in the past, and then lower your expectations accordingly.

Lower...

Lower...

Lower...

Lower...

Keep going...

[rubthebuddha]

well, the scene in dogma in which jay was shooting ben affleckwas pretty fantastic.



but that's only because ben affleck was getting shot. :D

[GeneChing]

I loved dogma.

There was a rumor that Jackie was being considered Kato, but that was before I heard anything about Smith taking on the project. There was a very old rumor about Jet doing Kato too, but after Black Mask and his other western projects, that would be really surprising.

I would enjoy hearing more about this if anyone finds out more...:cool:

[Chang Style Novice]

Just a little bit lower than that...

Almost 1/3 of the way there now...

And lower...

[MasterKiller]

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404280&intl=us

[Chang Style Novice]

I just thought of something - Kwoon is hitting DVD now. Sounds like the perfect bunch of guys for this project to me.

[norther practitioner]

Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
I just thought of something - Kwoon is hitting DVD now. Sounds like the perfect bunch of guys for this project to me.

LOL.. thats funny..

I take it your not a huge KS fan.

[FatherDog]

According to the View Askew message boards, Smith is trying to get Woo Ping in to help with fight choreography.

[Chang Style Novice]

"I'm not a huge Kevin Smith fan" is about as accurate a statement as "Yatta might possibly be a teensy bit gay."

And Yuen Woo-Ping notwithstanding, Smith would still have to shoot it with that dead, fishy eye of his. That waste of beergut should have ended his career with "Clerks" (which I admit I enjoyed on the level of 'lets-p!ss-and-moan-about-our-sh!tty jobs.)

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
"I'm not a huge Kevin Smith fan" is about as accurate a statement as "Yatta might possibly be a teensy bit gay."

And Yuen Woo-Ping notwithstanding, Smith would still have to shoot it with that dead, fishy eye of his. That waste of beergut should have ended his career with "Clerks" (which I admit I enjoyed on the level of 'lets-p!ss-and-moan-about-our-sh!tty jobs.) Clerks was funny because it was so low budget. Everything just seemed to work, even the bad acting. Smith has yet to make a good movie, though.

Here is tip number 1 for him: hire a screen writer.

His dialogue is pedantic and pandering.

[Chang Style Novice]

As awful as his dialog is, film is still mostly a visual medium, and there has never been a single memorable frame in any Kevin Smith film. The guy is just 0 for however many when it comes to talents neccesary for fimmaking. His career is the greatest mystery since "Can I borrow a dollar?"

[Vash]

His movies just plain suxors.

I liked Dogma the first time I saw it, but the second . . . worse than Jaws: The Return.

If he does make it, I'll avoid it like it was a Kevin Smith movie.

[dodger87]

Donnie Yen wouldn't be bad for kato.

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by Chang Style Novice
As awful as his dialog is, film is still mostly a visual medium, and there has never been a single memorable frame in any Kevin Smith film. While film is no doubt visual, bad dialogue will ruin it quicker for me than bad visuals. I can watch Glen Gary/Glen Ross 20 times a month and not get sick of it, and it is pure dialogue (because it was a play originally).

Of course, my wife doesn't seem to share my affection for this movie....or Moonstruck....or Radio Days....or Edward Scissorhands....

[FatherDog]

Personally, I like Smith's dialogue. Which is why I consider him a good writer, but a poor director.

His writing work on Daredevil and The Green Arrow was well received, although I haven't read it. So there's evidence he can write superheroes well.

[rubthebuddha]

gotta admit that i liked each of his movies the first time i saw them. not on any level of depth, mind you, because they had no depth. all his movies are little more than 90 minutes of commentary on any simple social aspect. clerks? ****ty jobs and the effect of a ****ty job on life. compare dante and <insert name of video store guy here>. both had low-brow jobs, but the video store guy at least made his enjoyable ("hermaphroditic sex: chicks with ****s that put mine to shame."). mallrats? the shallowness of relationships. chasing amy? same. dogma? the same faith issues we all go through. except we don't get to see chris rock fall out of the sky in our lives.

the movies are all about common human experiences, just trumped up and crudely (but funnily) presented. it's on the same level as seinfeld -- humorous, no depth, lots of whining and an attempt to relate to the most people through the lowest common denominator of circumstances.

except kevin smith movies are bearable. i ****ing hate seinfeld -- nothing but 22 minutes of pedantic, nasal whining welcomely broken up by mildly less-pedantic commercials.

[MasterKiller]

Originally posted by rubthebuddha
except kevin smith movies are bearable. i ****ing hate seinfeld -- nothing but 22 minutes of pedantic, nasal whining welcomely broken up by mildly less-pedantic commercials. These pretzels are making me thirsty.

[GeneChing]

They should play Kato and the Green Hornet. I'd watch that.

It would be tough to step into the Kato role, considering the shoes that would have to be filled. I like Ray Parks, but Kato should really be asian. There are so few asian roles around anymore - and admitedly Kato is a bit stereotypical, but still, if it was good enough for Bruce...
There was also a rumor floating around that Steve Martin and jackie Chan would reprise the Pink Panther with Jackie as that Kato. That would be really ironic if Jet wound up in the Green Hornet Kato at the same time....

[PHILBERT]

Video store clerk guy was Randall.

And yes, Smith's movies are very crude and nasty, yet funny on an immature level, plus I love his references in later movies. Did you know the character who played Dante Hicks was in every movie, playing someone else? In Mallrats, he was the 3rd contestant on the gameshow at the end, plus he was in Chasing Amy and Dogma as someone else (all with the last name Hicks, so its like cousin, father, brother, etc). Then in Jay and Silent Bob he played Dante again.

I personally love the pleasing oneself with oral sex part in Clerks.

[rubthebuddha]

MK -- you will fear the stinkpalm (which was originally discovered in china as a dim mak attack meant to injure an opponent several hours later when they least expected it.

mmmm, pretzels. :D

[Kristoffer]

Smith's work on Daredevil was awsome. That book havn't been so good since Frank Millar had his way. So Smith does some things right. His low budget movies are fun but to call em good movies is a stretch. I really like Dogma though.

[Vash]

I loved his Daredevil stuff. His first few issues, though, seemed kinda like they were a rough draft.

His Green Arrow run was good.

[Kristoffer]

Green Arrow seems like a really lame character :)

[Vash]

Oh, he is. It just didn't suck all that hard when KS was on it.

[Kristoffer]

k, was it 'dark' like in DD? (I know **** about GA)

[dimmakseminar]

Dear Fans of the Martial Arts Genre:

Kevin Smith will certainly do this film justice! Just look at the seminal fight scene in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back", whereby Mark Hamill (performing the role of C**k-knocker) proceeds to grasp a staff (or was it a light saber?) and put Jay and Silent Bob in their place, momentarily, until Silent Bob breathes in the magic and all-powerful light saber emissions to beat down the former Star Wars star! This might be the best fight scene choreography in the whole movie! I am not certain that Yuen Wo Ping or any of his 11 siblings could have done any better with this script!

Fear not, our movie will be in great hands! I would also like to nominate Steven Hayes for the role of Kato, as no one would know what hit them!

Cinematically yours,

dimmakseminar

[Kristoffer]

if Smith is doin this movie...... then what roles will Matt Damon and Bennifer play? Seriously :D