"revert to kickboxing"

[Shaolindynasty]

I've been hearing this allot lately and just want to say nobody "reverts" to kickboxing. That's like saying because you use your hands in soccer you revert to basketball.

[backbreaker]

I think kickboxing takes too much skill to "revert" to. You probably only could if you are a good kickboxer doing another style. Maybe people revert to bad kickboxing or actually brawling

[cerebus]

Heh, heh. I bet Shaolindynasty has to revert to kickboxong to defend himself on the street.:D :D

[Vash]

I pervert kickboxing. Is that okay?

[cerebus]

Hey man, what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is your business, don't tell us about it (you pervert!) :D :D :D !

[Unmatchable]

you can revert to brawling.

[cerebus]

Hmmm. Kickboxers sometimes revert to brawling in their matches. Does that mean that brawlers sometimes revert to kickboxing in their fights? Heh, heh. :D :D :D

[SifuAbel]

I always revert to "chinese boxing".

[shaolinboxer]

How can using things that work be "reverting"?

[SifuAbel]

Its an enigma wrapped in a bagel.

[cerebus]

Well, if you train in kung fu but as soon as you get punched in the nose you go crazy & start swinging your fists wildly and brawling, that's not usually considered advancing in one's martial art. But hey, whadda I know?

[Royal Dragon]

I useually revert to "Mouth Boxing myself" :D

[cerebus]

Yeah! Punch 'im in the fist with yer teeth! Like this::D !

[SifuAbel]

Originally posted by cerebus
Well, if you train in kung fu but as soon as you get punched in the nose you go crazy & start swinging your fists wildly and brawling, that's not usually considered advancing in one's martial art. But hey, whadda I know?

Thats not reverting either. thats actually "whiny ***** never been hit in the nose style".

But I don't think thats your definition of kickboxing either.

[Vash]

"Try my nuts to foot style!"

[oof! recieves kick in the yaboos]

"You like?"

[/wimp lo voice from Kung Pow]

[cerebus]

Reply to Abel: Sorry, I was referring to the "reverting to brawling" thing. :D
As for reverting to kickboxing, if much of your past training in full contact fighting has been in kickboxing (much of mine has), and you're trying to increase your ability in something like Hsing-I which doen't really have any kickboxing-like techniques (not like any kickboxing I've ever seen anyway), and you are trying to use only your Hsing-I techniques, then there is still a strong possibility that once your opponent puts you in danger of getting pounded on, you might revert to your kickboxing.
This isn't just a hypothetical situation. Much of my past full contact training has been boxing, kickboxing & san shou. Right now I'm trying to develop my abilities in the Hsing-I I've been training in for the past year. One of the things I've done to help make the Hsing-I more a part of myself is to fight in full contact Hsing-I matches at my school/ association's annual event.
Many people say "Why worry about whether it's Hsing-I or kickboxing, as long as it works." In a real fight, yes I agree, anything goes. But I'm already a decent fighter (well, I can defend myself pretty well). I'm not yet a decent Hsing-I practitioner, though, and my goal is to further develop my abilities in this art.
Therefore, I did not want to "revert" to kickboxing.
And I was very successful (both at sticking to my Hsing-I and at defending against my opponents, Hsing-I works very well). Peace. :D

[cerebus]

Oh yeah,
Reply to Vash: "Go on, kick me in the junk!" :D

[SifuAbel]

Its obvious you are putting the cart before the horse. You can't force yourself just to be a certain way. A fight flows. The only thing you can really do is go with what manifests. If at some time you strike and a hsing-i based move appears then, bingo, you've just used it.

Right now your hsing-i is the way it is because its a forced issue, a new word in a foreign language. When you can say it naturally is when it will sound right.

[Ben Gash]

I don't think people revert to kickboxing, so much as they revert to boxing (their cultural reference point for fighting) and know how to kick.