Capoeira gains the respect of a thai boxer

[SevenStar]

a buddy of mine recently went to san diego and while he was there, trained with some capoeira guys. My friend was a state champ high school wrestler, wrestled some in college, has a black belt in tkd and several years of muay thai. He said that the capoeira guys had simply awesome sweeps and takedown tactics that came from various angles and left him with a few bruises. Of course, he left some of his own, but still he left with a new respect for the art. He said to me "If that's a brazilian dance, I never want to go to brazil!"

[FatherDog]

Actually, the guy I was rolling with when I broke my foot was a capoerista.. and a boxer, and high school wrestler. Shot doubles and singles, but did it from a capoera stance. It's really irritating trying to get underhooks on someone bobbing and swaying back and forth like that.

[Starchaser107]

:D

[Kristoffer]

A front kick should stop those cartwheeling maniacs

[fa_jing]

Actually, it's not Brazilian dance, and you do want to go to Brazil.

:D

[chen zhen]

mostly because of the ho-factor.

[Kristoffer]

Capoiera was African slave's way to fight when chained...... right

[chen zhen]

poor slaves..
getting beat up all the time for using that useless sh!t.

[j-himself]

i found this pretty sweet link featuring some capoeira basics and demos. its all in portugues, but check out the clips under "Golpe básico". they got some cool aerial kicks in there. gots to try that out.

[j-himself]

forgot to post the link
here ya go: http://capoeira.room.ne.jp/eigo/index00.htm

[Kristoffer]

sweet

[truewrestler]

Only the Strong was an awesome movie :)

[Kristoffer]

so so

[SevenStar]

I've got some vids of some takedowns done by capoeiristas... there's alot more to it then the flash that you see on tv.

[Tvebak]

Chen Zhen: you know...im allways at your service if you would like a taste of the useless sjit i waste my time with;o)

I also have practised a bit with thaiboxers...its a two way learning experience i can tell you:)

Sevenstar: Do you have some links to those movies=?

[chen zhen]

whattup tvebak, long time since u entered these grounds;)

[tnwingtsun]

Heya 7-star,do you have more info you can post on the school or any vid links??

[Tvebak]

Chen Zhen: yir...the school keeping me busy...that and training of course, and the fact that i dident write sjit here while i was in Brazil...better things to do you know:)

[chen zhen]

yeh.. but my summer was pretty nonproductive, so i spent TOO much time around here.. as u can see on my post count:p

ps: Jakob is in China this week, right? I cant come monday, since Im trying to get good at this Vale Tudo sh!t;).

cya

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by Kristoffer
A front kick should stop those cartwheeling maniacs

Yeah, they'll never expect that. It's not like the front kick is one of the most basic techniques in capoeira or anything. :)

[Shaolin-Do]

Bite a cats ear and throw it at em. Only way to go.

[jun_erh]

Virtually everyone in my old class claimed to know "some" capoeira which mostly consisted of trying to hold a handstand for longer than two seconds. One guy eventually got it together to learn some more and then went to Brazil to study it.

[Shaolin-Do]

Did you kick him in the face when he tried to do a handstand?

[Kristoffer]

Yeah, they'll never expect that. It's not like the front kick is one of the most basic techniques in capoeira or anything.

haha.. well if the guy is doing a handstand I think he'll have a hard time dodging a front kick. :)

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by Kristoffer


haha.. well if the guy is doing a handstand I think he'll have a hard time dodging a front kick. :)

Yeah, I think they might time that sort of thing specifically so they AREN'T handstanding there waiting for you to boot them in the laughing gear. That's like saying I'd whale some dude in the nuts when he's in horse stance. :)

[Shaolin-Do]

"That's like saying I'd whale some dude in the nuts when he's in horse stance."

You should video tape this and post it here.
:cool:
Anyone got vids of capoeria in action?

[Kristoffer]

Yeah, I think they might time that sort of thing specifically so they AREN'T handstanding there waiting for you to boot them in the laughing gear. That's like saying I'd whale some dude in the nuts when he's in horse stance.

lol
I'd have to sneak up on him when his practising his handstand then :D

Seriously, if I sparred someone good at Capoeira I think I would be focusing on low kicks/sweeps or try to try to grab him as quickly as I can to throw. u?

[Shaolin-Do]

My game would be to get in close, throw them on the ground. When they started trying to do all the fancy spin around sh!t, id kick them in the teeth.
:eek:

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by Kristoffer


lol
I'd have to sneak up on him when his practising his handstand then :D

Now THAT would probably work. :)

Seriously, if I sparred someone good at Capoeira I think I would be focusing on low kicks/sweeps or try to try to grab him as quickly as I can to throw. u?

Me? Well, my throws are crap, quite frankly. But I'd probably go with the same basic sentiment. Close distance. I know that capoeira does teach some headbutting, throwing, etc. But I really don't want to hang out at the optimal range for those kicks. I want to be as close to the center of that tornado as I can manage.

But since I've never sparred a capoeirista, that's all highly theoretical. :)

[Kristoffer]

But since I've never sparred a capoeirista, that's all highly theoretical.


Yeah mine was too

[SevenStar]

Originally posted by tnwingtsun
Heya 7-star,do you have more info you can post on the school or any vid links??

I'll ask him the name of the school. As for the vids, I'll try to find the site I got them from, and I'll post the ones I have online.

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by Kristoffer



Yeah mine was too

There's our homework assignment then. Go and pick a fight with a capoeirista. :)

In all seriousness, there is a group in Washington DC I've been meaning to check out for years now.

[Kristoffer]

In all seriousness, there is a group in Washington DC I've been meaning to check out for years now.

Hmm, there's alot of capoeira around here for some reason, might check it out someday. Hey here's a new thread about it too, maybe you'll find it interesting.


http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25485

[jun_erh]

one of the video games, I think tekken ?, has a capoeira character

[Kristoffer]

yea
http://www.manji-clan.com/wtcl/characters/eddy_gordo.htm

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by Kristoffer


Hmm, there's alot of capoeira around here for some reason, might check it out someday. Hey here's a new thread about it too, maybe you'll find it interesting.


http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25485

Cheers Kristoffer.

[Ray Pina]

Last summer I saw two guys doing staff form together that looked great, they moved real well. Then they broke off into empty hand form (dance) work.

I asked them how that worked, if they kept the rythm in fighting of broke out of it until they actually touched hands. The head guy told me that all fighting is rythm and blah, blah, blah.... so of course I asked to see.

He squared off, started his back and forth and in and out, and automatically (quicker than I expected) went down on one hand, turned his back to me and kicked at my head. It was quick but my handd automatically shot up to shield and he fell back and went into his side to side again.

We squared up again, he did a low spinning kick which was one waaay to far away to even make me move and back into the same kick, but this time after jamming him I kicked his hand out and he fell on his back.

Somehow, he figuered he still could have kicked me because he told me so ... suggesting he held the kick that I jammed with my elbow/forearm. I kindly suggested that I could have kicked his head but kicked his arm out of politeness. We parted duely unimpressed.

His kicks were fast and if they connected could have caused damage, but they were televised (the bad thing about maintaining a rythm is that I can be read, even on a half beat).

I'm still not sure what to think. I could have beaten that guy, a better trained guy I don't know. I outweighed the guy I played with by at least 20 lbs. I do know there are a couple serious schools in Queens and Manhattan thoug. I also met a cute girl doing the same thing in the same spot this summer. It's beautiful to watch, that's for sure.

[CaptinPickAxe]

I have to give it to Crapoeria. It keeps you uber-limber and they have a killer 720 triple kick. As for it be applicable in a real life situation, it falls into the same catagory as Tai Bo and Kungrobics.
If your in Capoeria your not a MAist your a B-Boy.

[apoweyn]

Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
I have to give it to Crapoeria. It keeps you uber-limber and they have a killer 720 triple kick. As for it be applicable in a real life situation, it falls into the same catagory as Tai Bo and Kungrobics.
If your in Capoeria your not a MAist your a B-Boy.

"Crapoeira"? Nice. :rolleyes:

A B-Boy?

Taebo and Kungrobics? Very unkind CaptainPickAxe.


Stuart B.

[CaptinPickAxe]

Don't get me wrong, Its a very beautiful dance, but I strongly doubt its effectiveness. A lot of the attacks are grossly telegraphed. And 90% of the fights are coreagraphed. Sure, It keeps you as limber as a gyminist, but I think it gives people the false premintion that they can dance their way through a fight. This may be the case once or twice in real life, but once you go into a hand stand, chances are your going to catch a kick to the face...

[Shaolin-Do]

*kick*

Id like to see some capoeria in action. Or spar someone that knows it.

[CaptinPickAxe]

ol' dudes cousin Anthony knows it...

[Shaolin-Do]

Id feel bad for beating him around tho.
:eek:
Im bout to cruise over there.

[MasterKiller]

I heard capoeira was pretty effective.

I also heard there was large bunny who brought me chocolate and hid eggs in my yard because Jesus died.

[Shaolin-Do]

" I also met a cute girl doing the same thing in the same spot this summer. "

capitalize on that. Broad already knows how to work the hips.
:eek:




:D

[Shaolin-Do]

"I also heard there was large bunny who brought me chocolate and hid eggs in my yard because Jesus died."

I heard the same thing! This jesus guy seems to be a shady fellow...
:eek:

I was also told that a fat man comes down my chimney to fill a dirty sock with toys because jesus rose from the dead.

[CaptinPickAxe]

I know I came off as a D*ck on this one.
And chances are that there are Capoeira practitioners that could hand me my ass bundled up nice and pretty. But from my knowledge of the practioners here in San Antonio, Its martial value is slim to none. But then again there is a serious shortage of real MAist here in town. Remember, San Antonio is the #1 fattest city in the US.

[yenhoi]

Caporiea without its blade element is like most blade arts without their blade element...

there are known skilled exponents, schools, and teachers. Several in brazil, at least one in san diego (area?) and Im sure many others.

:eek:

[Shaolin-Do]

Nah dude, were #2. N'ahlins beat us out this year. :eek:

[CaptinPickAxe]

are you that blind?
those two cats are Jesus' hench men.
spreading faith without really spreading faith.
...and the toys are cameras how else can that fat f*cker tell whose naughty and nice...