kicks in Chan Tai Chi

[EmptyCup]

I was wondering what kind of kicking is done in the Chan family of Tai Chi...

[Lin-Wu]

I cannot help you,EmptyCup,because I do not do Chen,but I have a question of my own.What should kicks be like in tai ji?I ask this because,when I asked some people about this,there were 2 kinds of thoughts:
1)kicks are obvious attacks(I don`t know what this means,but that`s what they told me)and because of this,they have to be fast
2)The forms simulate fights--the ENTIRE forms--.If the other attacks are made slowly,why should kicks be an exception?!
Please help me.I`ve already asked my sifu about this,but he says that if you can hold the kick,then you should hold it ,but he accepts fast kicks as well

I want to do it right,not "adappted for me",so please tell me which is right

[Laughing Cow]

Emptycup.

Can you be a bit more specific as to which sub-style you are interested in, I do Xiao Jia and we do things different from the large/new frame.

That is if you are talking about Chen.

Lin Wu.

1)kicks are obvious attacks(I don`t know what this means,but that`s what they told me)and because of this,they have to be fast

Disagree with this to a certain degree, there are many kicks in TJQ that attack the knee or thigh, those don't need to be obvious.

Low kicks are easier to do slow than head or similar high kicks. ;)


2)The forms simulate fights--the ENTIRE forms--.If the other attacks are made slowly,why should kicks be an exception?!


I don't think that the entire form simulate fights, some moves/posture are there for non-ma or pure transition purpose only.


Please help me.I`ve already asked my sifu about this,but he says that if you can hold the kick,then you should hold it ,but he accepts fast kicks as well


If you can hold it and do it slow it is better, fast movements can hide flaws in the execution and thus can develop bad habits.

In my school the forms change as we progress and gain greater skill.

What is a step now, in one year will be a jump in 2 yrs will be a jumping kick, etc. And, yes, there are applications for each of those.

[EmptyCup]

yes I am talking about Chen/Chan family pronounced "Chun" in Cantonese...

It's actually spelled out inthe subject and body of my post :)

[count]

Originally posted by Laughing Cow
I don't think that the entire form simulate fights, some moves/posture are there for non-ma or pure transition purpose only.
What moves? :confused:
Empty cup.
LC makes some good points. I only seriously disagree with this one. There are no "moves" in Tai Chi forms that are "non-ma". Maybe I'm wrong. Please explain Laughing Cow.

As a beginner, many of the kicks in your form will be hidden or at very least, not shown. And don't be confused between a "separation of the legs" and a kick. But Tai Chi has all kicks including tornado kick. But as you progress, you should find that form is only a small part of your training. If you are only doing form at least your teacher should be showing you what each move is for and you should practice each move separately.

[Laughing Cow]

Originally posted by count

LC makes some good points. I only seriously disagree with this one. There are no "moves" in Tai Chi forms that are "non-ma". Maybe I'm wrong. Please explain Laughing Cow.

I was told by quiet a few people that some "moves" ar in the forms solely for transition purpose between postures and don't hold any MA application perse.

Granted this was not for Chen TJQ, but my previous Tjq style.

[EmptyCup]

I hope you do realize Lin-Wu posted that stuff on not me
:)

[count]

Originally posted by EmptyCup
I hope you do realize Lin-Wu posted that stuff on not me
:)
Yes, I Know, my reply was for you. But I couldn't let LC's comment go un-questioned either.