List Of Southern Kung Fu Systems ( Fukien & Kwantoong )

[GARRA DE TIGRE]

HELLO


I AM MAKING A LIST OF ALL SOUTHERN KUNG FU SYSTEMS .

I HAVE :

kwantoong

hung gar
mok gar
lay gar
law gar
choy gar
hung fut
jow gar / hung tao choy mei
fut gar
lama pai
bak hok
hop gar
ng cho kun
fukien bak hok
lo han
tong long
wing chun
bak mei
bak fu
loong ying kuen
yau kung moon

some help ?

[Fu-Pau]

Jow Gar is also spelled Chow Gar (to be distinguished though from Chow Gar Southern Preying Mantis)

Also:

Choy Lay Fut
Lau Gar
Hak Fu Moon (Southern Black Tiger)

[Fu-Pow]

Hey...change your name Fu-Pau!!!!:mad:

[GARRA DE TIGRE]

thank you for you interest fu pau , but hark fu moon is another name for fu jao and the system is southern and northern . lau gar and law gar are the same .

hey fu pow , forget you fight about the legal rights , copyrights and trademarks of you name and help with this topic .

[ZhouJiaQuan]

Hey Fu-Pau, you study Jow Ga? Who is your sifu? I study in the states with Sifu Hoy Lee.

um ok styles not listed, how about
Choy Mok (choy gar and mok gar - hence the name)

Lee Gar(i think i remember hearing of this style, i dunno much about it)

peace

[Fu-Pau]

Originally posted by GARRA DE TIGRE
thank you for you interest fu pau , but hark fu moon is another name for fu jao and the system is southern and northern .

Ok, but Chow Gar/Jow Ga and Choy Lay Fut although considered southern styles (like hark fu moon) also incorporate northern elements, so they are not "pure" southern kung fu in that context. but all 3 (Chow Gar/Jow Ga, Hak Fu Moon and Choy Lay Fut) are southern stlyes in that they originated in the south even though they contain elements of northern kung fu

[Fu-Pau]

Originally posted by Fu-Pow
Hey...change your name Fu-Pau!!!!:mad:

ummm ... no ;)

[Firebird]

first Greetings to Argentina; a friend lived over 20 years here in Germany , now he moves back to Argentina.

but now to Your thread:

there is not only Hark Fu Moon / Hei Fu Kuen or Fu Jow Pai .
There are 2 more southern black tiger styles
and 4 northern black tiger styles ( different provinces)
they all share only the name.

[GARRA DE TIGRE]

thank you for the info about black tiger . i 'd don't know the system was created in the south .
some systems like lama pai , hop gar , or white crane coming from tibet but was popularized * in the south .

somebody have info about southern drunken immortals and southern drunked monkey from leung ting books ?






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[Lost Oath]

Hey,

Your list is very helpful, thanks for posting it.

About info on drunken immortals try this link: http://www.joybotsin.com/index.htm

I think its southern, I'm not so sure though - got some nice videos by the way (thinking of adding them to my site...).

[Kymus]

Green Dragon/ Ching Lung Kuoshu

I studied this for a little while. I never really got a chance to talk to my Grand Master about the history of the style, but I do know that it uses Tiger, Crane, Dragon, and also has some forms from Choy Lay Fut and I believe Hung Gar (does Hung Gar have the "Tiger Exercises" (Iron Horse and Tiger, Stone Tiger, Fierce Tiger, Hunting Tiger))

[Subzero]

Hello.While i have never studide the style i believed thatchoi lei fut was a mixture of southern and northen style.I'm not sure but i think thats true.
Someone please correct me now:D

[David Jamieson]

thank you for you interest fu pau , but hark fu moon is another name for fu jao and the system is southern and northern . lau gar and law gar are the same

Fu Jow Pai (Tiger Claw style/school) is said to have been a name change to honour a monk.

The Hark Fu moon style of Black tiger is still propogated as a system quite seperate from the Fu Jow Pai organization.

Also, Hak Fu Pai is yet anothr Black Tiger system unrelated to Fu Jow Pai and Shangtung black Tiger ( a northern system) is also unrelated.

Hung is another name that is used that is not all necessarily Hung Gar.

Hung Fut, Hung Muhn and Hung Mei are also styles with Hung Mei (face of Hung or eyebrow of hung) said to be a nOrthern influenced style. THen there is the China version from the North Hong Chia/cha.

Ha Say Fu (four lower tigers) is another style that is also called 5 animals, old style Hung Ga, original 5 animals.

There are too many village systems that stem from the diaspora of Shaolin styles to even begin to mention. :)

Choy Li Fut has two large branches of Bak Hsing and Hung Sing.

Bak Hsing is said to have developed from Tam Sam who was a choy Li fut master in the early 20th century who exchanged students with Master Ku Yu cheong of the Bak Sil Lumn (North Shaolin) style. Bak Sil Lum (Bei Shao lin (muhn/men)) is a southern style of North Shaolin.

The North had much influence on the south, especially in terms of the Shaolin styles which were developed mostly at Henan and spread from there to the alleged Fukien Shaolin temple and most of the other temples that have a connection to the Shaolin order. BTW and FWIW, any Zen or Ch'an temple is connected to the Shaolin order as Ch'an is a treasure that was exclusive to Henan Shaolin temple when it was founded by it's first patriarch Ta Mo (Bodhidharma) and through 5 more patriarchs who shared the Shaolin connection.

And then there are the styles that were spread in the 1700's through to present day by migrants out of China and those who became endentured servants to the spanish, the portugese, the british, the french and the americans who made promises of prospeity to these peoples and for a price herded them of to the new world.

The Communists vs the Nationalists in China spread arts out of the country and to far away places as well. INto the chinatowns across North America and around the world, lineages of Kungfu Masters can be found in each. These arts were brought out long ago and many no longer appear to be the same as their same named brother systems that still are in China and Taiwan.

It's like trying to count a handful of lost dust particles really :D
Not like anyone would be able to master more than one or two styles anyway.

cheers