A simple test for Shaolin Do

[MonkeySlap Too]

http://www.ohioshaolin-do.com/internal.html

Lists Liu Ha Pa Fa as a 'style' taught at Shaolin Do. As I happen to be acquainted with many of the students of Wai Lun Choi, the legitimate head of this style, I extend an offer to any 'Shaolin-Do' master or student.

I can arrange a meeting with master Choi or one of his students to evaluate this Liu Ha Pa Fa Shaolin-Do teaches.

I think we will find that it is yet another demonstration of fraud on the part of this organization.

Feel free to eMail me, and I will be happy to try to set this up.

Good luck on trying to learn this style from video!!

I am a big beleiver in luck. The more I work, the more luck I have.

[rocky]

MonkeySlapToo, Why are you so hell bent to discredit shaolin-do masters or practioners. I'm not a student of shaolin-do But, I know some people in that art they work hard at it. Just because it don't match what you do. It still a martial art of some type. Just because it is not a monkey steals the peach routine. Or the master didn't make the 100 top masters of kung fu in china yours may have or have not. We all can't be like you or your famous masters. Get a grip pal its only shaolin do. Cheers.

[Sharky]

yea but it *IS* a bit gay tho, admit it...

Edd

My anus is superior™

[MonkeySlap Too]

I don't care if someone is happy with it. I don't care if someone does something different than me. (If you knew me, you'd know that is a ridiculous thought.) I do care if someone is misrepresenting themselves to make a buck. I have become convinced that they are lying to the public. It has nothing to do with me, but it has a lot to do with people I respect. Please see the other posts by myself and people like Brad.

This is a bigger issue. I am sure there are plenty of fine people in Shaolin Do, but that should not prevent someone from telling the emperor he ain't got no clothes.

I am a big beleiver in luck. The more I work, the more luck I have.

[IronFist]

"I do care if someone is misrepresenting themselves to make a buck. "

Hell yeah, MonkeySlap Too.

It's like Ashida Kim. While I don't give two craps if what he teaches is effective or not, it ****es me off to no end that he calls the crap he teaches "ninjutsu" (oh sorry, my bad, he calls it "ninjitsu" with an "i").

It's false representation, and it's ******* bull****

Iron

[The Willow Sword]

this is the first time that i have seen this being offered. is li hou ba fa part of the meteor fist system? in GM SIN's book it talks about it only fleetingly,,,I have never seen it myself....whereas i have the classical pakua form and hsing-i and taichi,,,,i have yet to learn the
official combination forms. i actually have been doing stuff on my own but would like to see and possibly go to a seminar to learn this material.
monkey,,you and i have gotten on the wrong foot. i would like to be able to discuss things with you in an intelligent manner and share ideas and thoughts. even though i am a SD disciple. i am not as inept as you might think.
Many respects, willow sword

Whatever you think i am or want me to be,,, i am.

[Brad]

One thing I've been wondering, are Liu He Ba Fa and Waterboxing the same system? There's a guy here in Colombus who teaches Waterboxing but I haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. All I know is that it's supposed to be based off of a combination of Taiji, Xingyi, & Bagua and very few actually know it well enough to teach it.

[MonkeySlap Too]

Hey Willow, I'll eMail you my number at some point today - I am running and on the road, but if you leave me yours, I'll definitely call back.

I saw your post on Park Bok Nam, and I'd be happy to share notes with you.

Brad
Liu Ho Pa Fa is often called 'Water Boxing'. Be wary of the Modern Wushu version.

Many people teach it, but the full knowledge of the art is held by Wai Lun Choi. Choi pretty much knows who 'has' it or not, and what the different teachers skill levels are. He's a real nice guy, and very honest.

I am a big beleiver in luck. The more I work, the more luck I have.