What is the objective of practising SLT?

[Phenix]

What is the objective of practising SLT (SNT) ?
Why one needs to practise it?
what to achive?
what result shown one is doing it properly?
What is the highest level of SLT achivement or Kung Fu?


Care to share?

[S.Teebas]

What is the objective of practising SLT (SNT) ?

Analysing your body, how to move it in the most efficent and effective way.

Why one needs to practise it?

Its the soul of the WC i practice.

what to achive?

Effortless power.

what result shown one is doing it properly?

Ability to generate large amount of force in any direction. In a relaxed, scientific manner.

What is the highest level of SLT achivement or Kung Fu?

Mind force.

[Phenix]

What is the objective of practising SLT (SNT) ?

Analysing your body, how to move it in the most efficent and effective way.

Great. But with what reference one analysizing? HS



Why one needs to practise it?

Its the soul of the WC i practice.


Why is it the Soul? - HS




what to achive?

Effortless power.

Ok to desciption the details of "Effortless power"? _HS




what result shown one is doing it properly?

Ability to generate large amount of force in any direction. In a relaxed, scientific manner.


How is the feeling or quatitative measuarement interm of Mind/ body/ breathing when one get there or approaching there? -HS




What is the highest level of SLT achivement or Kung Fu?

Mind force.


How MInd can have force in physical world? Can this be implement by practicing SLT or just a philosophical goal? -HS

[anerlich]

To occupy time in a WC class.

[S.Teebas]

Analysing your body, how to move it in the most efficent and effective way.
Great. But with what reference one analysizing? HS
Results. Is this easier to do and producing stonger forces?..if yes, it must be better. No?

Q: Why one needs to practise it?
A: Its the soul of the WC i practice.
Why is it the Soul? - HS
Can practice almost everything I’ve learned so far in it.

Achieve…Effortless power.
Ok to desciption the details of "Effortless power"? _HS
An old man can do it.

Q: what result shown one is doing it properly?
A: Ability to generate large amount of force in any direction. In a relaxed, scientific manner.
How is the feeling or quatitative measuarement interm of Mind/ body/ breathing when one get there or approaching there? -HS
I’m not there yet, so cant answer for certain. So far id say: Relaxed, unified, focused.

Q: What is the highest level of SLT achivement or Kung Fu? A: Mind force.
How Mind can have force in physical world? Can this be implement by practicing SLT or just a philosophical goal? –HS
Mesh refined thinking with movement.

What are your answers on your initial questions Phoenix?

[yylee]

training SNT lets one cultivate the movements, jings, structure or whatever.... provided that one lets go of all worries, ignoring all distractions. The effortless power arises only when the mind is calm, IMHO.

[Miles Teg]

I sense a Tao quote coming.

Does a bird need to ask an elephant how to fly and then tell the elephant his answer is wrong? Such is the way of Tao.

[Rolling_Hand]

Miles Teg wrote:

I sense a Tao quote coming.

Does a bird need to ask an elephant how to fly and then tell the elephant his answer is wrong? Such is the way of Tao.

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LOL, this isn't the day for elephant stories. Stick to the facts - no matter how many SLT stories....the art of WCK is more than SLT.....with Chum Kiu and Biu Jee in your WCK....you can't go wrong.

[Phenix]

Originally posted by yylee
provided that one lets go of all worries, ignoring all distractions. The effortless power arises only when the mind is calm, IMHO.

Form reading the CMA classics , iMHO, if this is the way one train. then even train for 100years one will get not too far.

[yylee]

Originally posted by Phenix


Form reading the CMA classics , iMHO, if this is the way one train. then even train for 100years one will get not too far.

So what did the CMA classics say? What are you suggesting? :)

[Phenix]

Originally posted by yylee


So what did the CMA classics say? What are you suggesting? :)

IMHO,
ALL what I come through always have a Process. such as level one attainment, level two attainment......

Mind/ BOdy/ Breathing cannot be just "relax" and that's it. There are steps...on how to implement the goal....

Words of wisdom in Dao De Ching or other classical doesn't mean a thing without the specific cultivation technics. Have you seen those Taijiguy doing reel silk? in the real life do you think that work? IMHO, those are just the begining... that is not the full story.

[Phenix]

Originally posted by Miles Teg


Does a bird need to ask an elephant how to fly and then tell the elephant his answer is wrong? Such is the way of Tao.


Eagle is not chicken. All Eagle can fly as soon as they know they are not chicken and know how to use thier WINGs.

The WAY to find one's Wings is Dao of WINGS. The Way to always delude oneself and others that one is a Chicken is the Dao of delution.

[canglong]

"IMHO,
ALL what I come through always have a Process. such as level one attainment, level two attainment...... " --Phenix

Everything progresses except your forms/SLT?

You have level one SLT, level two SLT and level three SLT...:D


Or do you have level one SNT/SLT, level two chum kiu and level three biu jee?:confused:

[yylee]

Originally posted by Phenix


[QUOTE][B]IMHO,
ALL what I come through always have a Process. such as level one attainment, level two attainment......

I never like grading myself and I doubt all MA masters went through structured level systems. When I think of levels and gradings I tend to think of Karate, TKD. Still this could help people define their expectations and goals. If the attainment levels are not artificially defined then it is okay by me. For us achieving Tan-Bong is the first goal, Fook comes after. It is like you can either do it or you can't, not much in between grounds; nor can someone just tell you that you're okay. Afterall attaining Tan-Bong is a beginning, the sky become clear afterwards and there are more awaiting.


Mind/ BOdy/ Breathing cannot be just "relax" and that's it. There are steps...on how to implement the goal....

care to drop down some more details? :)

Have you seen those Taijiguy doing reel silk? in the real life do you think that work? IMHO, those are just the begining... that is not the full story.

I am not too familiar with silk reeling, but Chen TC classics do get into details of every single Chi meridian. They spend volumes to talk about silk reeling but without the actual training it is hard for people to grasp. Yang/Wu TC don't seem to talk about silk reeling at all yet they are supposed to have come from Chen TC.

[Phenix]

Originally posted by canglong
"IMHO,
ALL what I come through always have a Process. such as level one attainment, level two attainment...... " --Phenix

Everything progresses except your forms/SLT?

You have level one SLT, level two SLT and level three SLT...:D


Or do you have level one SNT/SLT, level two chum kiu and level three biu jee?:confused:





The same cooking there are different condition of fire.
same ingradient but taste different....

The same technic there are levels of fine touch....

[Phenix]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by yylee
[B]

I never like grading myself and I doubt all MA masters went through structured level systems. When I think of levels and gradings I tend to think of Karate, TKD. Still this could help people define their expectations and goals. If the attainment levels are not artificially defined then it is okay by me. For us achieving Tan-Bong is the first goal, Fook comes after. It is like you can either do it or you can't, not much in between grounds; nor can someone just tell you that you're okay. Afterall attaining Tan-Bong is a beginning, the sky become clear afterwards and there are more awaiting.

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It isn't the level of grading.
This level is not that level. :D

The Chinese classic said that " the clear one (who is clear with what his is doing ) shows a hand, one will right away know whether he/she has it or not."

" has it or not " " what is the level of fine touch" That is the level of attainment.



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I am not too familiar with silk reeling, but Chen TC classics do get into details of every single Chi meridian. They spend volumes to talk about silk reeling but without the actual training it is hard for people to grasp. Yang/Wu TC don't seem to talk about silk reeling at all yet they are supposed to have come from Chen TC.

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Yang/Wu TC don't seem to talk about silk reeling because thier silk reeling circle is very small. almost instantaneously accepting is issuing.... there are records available on those stuffs but only to a limited people.... when accepting and issuing become one. One looks like just standing there and not moving much.....

Those large silk reeling is great but too slow in responding.....

but then you are right. before one can unify, Mind/ body/ qi to a certain degree. Then, it is difficult to grasp. and that certain degree is about level not about how many moves one knows....

one can continous to reel, but if one doesn't understand the "Yee issuing " after the unify of MInd/Body/Qi . even practicing for 100 years one will not get one there.
Thus I have heard.