Bagua

[hairywhiteguy]

I study Gao bagua from Allen Pittman and enjoy it a great deal.
I just wanted to ask who any of you guys would recommend to study any style of bagua with? Location doesn't matter.:D

[count]

What do you mean, "location doesn't matter"? And who would I be recommending this teacher to? Questions make a difference.;) For you I might recommend a couple of teachers hear in LA. Su Dong Cheng or maybe Tim Cartmell. Especially since they learned from your avitar. ;)

[Skummer]

Hairy,

I live in Atlanta myself and was curious about the bagua training methods of your school. That is, do you guys do a type of push hands? Free sparring? Isolation sparring? Full contact? Jing training?

I'm a student at the altanta judo academy myself, but I have a keen interest in bagua and tai chi.

[hairywhiteguy]

count-What do you mean, "location doesn't matter"? And who would I be recommending this teacher to? Questions make a difference.

Location, I don't care where this teacher resides.
Me, studied with 'meltdawn' in florida for a year and a half, now in ATL with Allen running in circles.:p
Anything else you wanna know?
O, and the reason I ask, well, really I'm looking for other interpertations of Bagua, I've seen some interesting video and such online, ect, ect so...since I'm not tied down w/ "life" I though I'd try and travel a bit

count, are you offended by my question?

Skummer- We do a lot of two man application, meaning we work through the form slow and fast learning each detail with various body types, learning all the differences in aproach. Class is a restricted period of time, each student has his own rutine out of class, each student also has different goals. Some to inherit the system and teach, some for health, some to fight, ect....

[count]

Not offended, just confused. A little clarification makes a big difference. A detail like "interperations" tells me you may be interested in a different style of bagua. A detail like "you" tells me something about previous experience. Even though I doubt you'll find the same "interpretation" from any two even if they did have the same teacher. Maybe you were interested in a Yin style teacher or Cheng or something else. Do you speak Chinese? Maybe you want to get closer to the source. Care to travel to Hebei, Beijing, Taipai? Distance may become a factor. I know some great bagua teachers who charge 100 dollars per hour and only take private students. Is cost a factor? Do you like big cities or small towns? New York perhaps? Maybe your into TCM and want someone qualified to teach both martial and health aspects of bagua? Do you want to fight? Competitions? Live in a dangerous part of the world? Personally I have only done workshops with several of the teachers I am thinking of in this post alone. Should I still recommend them to you? Or teachers I have spent more than say one year with or ten? Or maybe this is a troll question to see if people with fight over lineage or who has the goods? How should I answer your question? I was wrong the first time. Or was I?

[hairywhiteguy]

hate to be rude, but...you over analize. You are filled with great intentions but this was my origional post with slite modifactions...


"I just wanted to ask who any of you guys would recommend to study ANY STYLE of BAGUA (not gao bagua) with? Location doesn't matter"

Mr. Count I realize and apoligize for my not comunicating that nothing matters except....a good teacher. Free range, give me some one who if you had all the time/money in the world you would study bagua with...who would it be (I don't have all the money but what thats what work is for.

Please no flame war I am just a simple man looking under every rock and I thought it would be a good idea to bring our collective ideas together on what teachers, from any linage, country, whatever.

I apreciate your time, time is valuable, no hard feelings please.

thank you.

[count]

LMAO:D

Mr. Whiteguy, I apologize if my line of questioning was misunderstood. I would wholeheartedly concur with Mr. Dude's suggestions. Also, I would love to go to New York and spend some time with Mr. Taoist and his teacher Chen Xiao Ping who is teaching currently. Given unlimited funds I might also go to Hebei and Shandong in autumn 2004 for some hands on at the source. If I could spend a couple of years there I might stop in Taiwan and study from He Jing Han. You might be interested that Su Dong Cheng has begun teaching here in LA and can give you a unique interpretation of bagua from a vast experience level unmatched by many. If you are interested in spending time in Chicago, Wai Lun Choi is there. If I think of any others I can honestly recommend I'll let you know. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Just,
count (not Mr. count, if you please)

PS, Mr. Dude, it is not Master Tsou's responsibility to teach me any manners I may have forgotten. But thanks anyway.

[hairywhiteguy]

Thanks guys. Thanks for the leads, I'll check around.

Wow, one misunderstanding and now my manners are being insulted, I wish computers carried more than words since speaking is made up far more. I appreciate all your suggustion and one or two may be taken up. I hope my online manners appear better next time.

Wujidude-I don't know who your insulting, me or him, but maybe you ought to toughen up a bit about this....it was a misunderstanding, thats it....he thought I could be a troll or a beginner looking for the local karate class, I'm not, so.... Re-read it before you insult my mom on how she raised me. Cause only mama teaches mannas'!

O, and another thing, I'm still fairly new to posting and I have no idea what 'LMAO', means.


Skummer- did you have any other questions? Send me a email at orderofmasses@hotmail.com

I'll answer more questions that way..

[Walter Joyce]

LMAO = laughing my a$$ off

[hairywhiteguy]

OOOOO! thats cool! LMAO!!!

thanks again.