Lohan Qigong

[k2square]

Do you have to train in martial arts before to learn Lohan Qigong?

[Serpent]

No.

[YoungForest]

to some exstent yes.

[Serpent]

JigGa - do you want to qualify that? A person can easily walk into a qigong school off the street and begin learning the Lohan Qigong. There is absolutely no requirement whatsoever that the person has any knowledge of any kind of martial art prior to this. Why do you say there is?

[Shaolin Master]

Lohan Qigong - From Which Style/System.

Anyway usually it is taught like Serpent says from the very beginning. It could even be taught as Qigong separate to any style (like for Health).
However, the value of it to a martial artist may not be understood to the very end /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Regards

Shi Chan Long

[YoungForest]

first off,
Not everyone can learn their qigong so that's why you should have martial art experience to have that certain self control advantage.

Secondly, its not a weekend thing so patience would help you out too.

and finally, do u see a normal stranger walking into a Qigong school and learned their Qigong?

[Serpent]

Some schools advertise their qigong/tai chi lessons seperately to their kung fu and people are invited to join one or other or both. There is no commitment at all to learn everything.

You said:

"first off,
Not everyone can learn their qigong so that's why you should have martial art experience to have that certain self control advantage."

Why can't everyone/anyone learn?! You could say just the same about kung fu - you should learn qigong first for "that certain self control advantage". Qigong, taught properly, will teach the absolute beginner everything they need to practice qigong, without recourse to any other art.

"Secondly, its not a weekend thing so patience would help you out too."

No one would argue with that, but everyone has to start somewhere.

"and finally, do u see a normal stranger walking into a Qigong school and learned their Qigong?"

Absolutely! Do you see a total stranger one day turn up at a kung fu school and learn their style? Yes you do. What about a dance school? A Spanish language class? Anything that you choose to learn, you find a school, walk in and say, "I'd like to learn xxxxx from you please."

JigGa, you don't make any sense.

[premier]

Yes. I think Lohan Qigong classes are usually open to public, though they're usually ran by kungfu schools.

First you learn basic breathing. dantien and gate. some massage and moving exercises. after that you'll learn the lohan 18 hands form. there's the basics of Lohan qigong.

After that you might learn the Siu Lohan and a third form which name I forgot.

The most advanced form is Wu chi form, which are the pure martial art application of Lohan system.

Sorry. This introduction isn't very accurate and I might not be aware of some forms. I will not be held responsible for it =)

[YoungForest]

so are you saying all martial artists are good? and learned?
NO!
80 percent of all martial artists or fighters suck...to put in a good way..

same with dancing or anything else, that's what im talking about..
you need your mind to be clear and have the ability to do well....most people can't see that or aren't able to do that for some reason..

[Shaolin Master]

All excercies in a way are Qi gong practises. not formally of course but every action affects our Qi and thus any sport wether from an external or internal perspective generate Qi and thus are a form of Qi gong.

Qi gong can be learnt straight from day One, in fact simple breathing regulation should explained from the beginning because it is such a lenghty process it is best to start of early.

The depth of understanding and level of progress is then dependant on individual effort and experience.

From what I gathered in above posts reference is made to the Lohan Qigong of the Choy Li Fut Family(which I List below). The fact is Lohan Qigong exists in many different CMAs from Praying Mantis to Songshan Shaolin...etc.

Lohan Qigong Sets :

1.Buddhidarma lohan 18 hands [lohan kung]
2.Small Arhat Set [Xiao lohan]
3.Large Arhat Set [Da Lohan]
4.Empty Ultimate [Wu Ji]

{WuJi - Difficult to translate it is best described as before Yin and Yang there exists WuJi}

Please see the web site below for details

http://www.tai-chi-centre.com/lohan.htm

Regards

Shi Chan Long