Nick Lo - Come get me.

[HuangKaiVun]

Nick Lo, you hate my guts. Excellent.

Do you want to prove how much of a fraud I am?

Soon, I shall open my school. "Huang's Kung Fu Academy", Chandler Arizona.

You are free to come beat my ass down anytime you wish. I'm no match for you - just a itty bitty 5'4" 130 lb Taiwanese guy who studies and teaches "fake kung fu" by your decree. You'll crush me at will!

I understand that you live in Hawaii and are unwilling to come to the mainland US. Perhaps we can arrange for you to eventually beat my butt once you have some spare time - either via me going there or you coming here.

You don't seem Chinese. Are you?

[Rory]

Great now not just do we have idiots in these forums but we have *******s

[bob10]

Great, can we all come?

I'm not even Chinese either, so I guess I'll be no match for you, just a round-eye silly Westerner and all. Still it might be fun to see some real Kung Fu.

[friday]

for god's sake all this started from another thread where Nicky Lo was being a jerk stop harassing Huang

even tho' i disagree with him starting a thread on this - there is no point Huang i wouldn't let the him/her/it get to u.

[jon]

Dude dont sweat it...
'Nick Lo' as far as i can gather is on a one man mission to try to discredit Kung Lek (TOP idea:rolleyes: ). I had a go at him in another thread and of course he turned his attension to me. Needless to say im still waiting for him to break down my door and challenge me to Mortal Kombat but this sadly has not happened.
Dont let all that scary Hawian attitude fool you he is about as bad as my mothers long dead Aunt, proberly smells about the same to.


Besides are you REALLY sure you wanna challenge a pimply fourteen yo kid with a death wish? They can really get amped if you pick on there choice of clothing. Just dont insult there sexuality or you will be dealing with a screaming AND crying pimply fourteen yo now.


Think about it, IF Nick Lo was QUITE as knowledgeable as he would have us believe and IF he was quite as bad as he would have us believe. Do you REALLY think he would have such a large issue with making sure he remains annonymous? My guess is his sifu would make him stand in horse stance for more than two minutes and he wouldnt be able to stand again for a week. Dont put the poor kid though all that, let him keep his fantacy where by he is grandmaster of all and knows you sifu by first name. He is proberly safer there than in the real world anyway. After all you have to actualy TRAIN in the real world.

What style did you pretend you did again 'nick'?
Who was your sifu again?
Ahh tats right:rolleyes:

[HuangKaiVun]

bob10, don't go around accusing me of racism.

I live and train with silly round eye Westerners. In fact, I AM a silly round eye Westerner. I even have round eyes despite my Chinese genetic. :eek:

But you can come - if Nick Lo does.


jon, there are a lot of IDIOTS out there.

Nick Lo came after me repeatedly. I simply made it EASIER for him to find me.

Part of being a kung fu sifu - heck, a MAN - is being willing to face up to guys who are trying to tear you down. Anybody who wants to destroy me or my loved ones will have a WAR on his hands.

I sincerely hope that Nick Lo comes through my door sometime after October, when my classes are fully in session.

I shall receive him politely and professionally - and if he wants to rumble, he can do that as well.

[Rory]

Like i tried to state before these forums are a place for us to share our practices, styles, and beliefs of Kung fu and if anything learn something you are not helping.

[HuangKaiVun]

How am I not helping, Rory?

We do KUNG FU. Our art is inherently violent.

We take up this art to defend ourselves against threats, against people like Nick Lo who would rip you from head to toe if he had the chance or ability.

I don't know about you, Rory, but when somebody like Nick Lo tries to take me down, he's going to have to do it in person. This is traditionally the ultimate proving ground in kung fu, and I'll cite many examples if you wish. Tell me it ain't so.

If this discussion, which is basically giving this "Nick Lo" character to prove to the world that I am a fraud in kung fu, isn't about "practices, styles, and beliefs of kung fu", I don't know what is!

Otherwise, stay off the thread. If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT.

WHERE ARE YOU, Nick Lo?

Where in Hawaii are you so that I can fly in to see you for "personalized 1-on-1 instruction?"

Who is your sifu? Does he agree with you? Does HE feel he can teach me a thing or two?

[Rory]

What happened to "turn the other cheek" even if he does insult you the bigger man ingnore him as you have advised me to do with these forums. And how do you know he would rip me to pieces how do you know you would.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think your problem is that you live in Arizona. God let me till you I have lived in San Diego all my life and I went to arizona once :( :( :eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: it was the worst place i had ever been so hot and depressing so sad

[Rory]

My god, I never ever new your teacher that goomba I see in all those magazines. If you could ask him how I could learn that many style in my life time please get back to me because i want to know his secret.





I hate to break it to you but I agree with nick lo your teacher is a fraud yes he is he is there is no way he could have learned that many styles so quickly.


One of the biggest problems with martial artists these days is they dont check out there teachers background and they then realize there mistake but they are too prideful to admit that they made the mistake of misjudging there teacher


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[gazza99]

Why dont we let Nick answer up on this thread, and keep the egotism to a minimum!

Your just feeding the fire,........... whoops! so am I!!!

Thanks,
Gary

[Whirlwind Palms]

After watching this thread and the one that intially lead to it, I can say that this is an interesting forum for airing testosterone. In HKV defense, he did attempt to agree to disagree, so to speak. Also, as he rightly points out, martial arts are ultimately intended for combat, and anyone telling themselves otherwise is in denial. As such, the provocation of Nick Lo has reached the point of "Put up or shut up..."

Plus a good fight is always a learning experience, even for those otherwise so full of themselves that they cannot see their own hand in front of their face.

Since civilities have been thrown aside... I would suggest the test of fire and find out who's made of what....

Proof is in the pudding afterall...

Peace to those who can maintain it....

[Nick Lo]

Wow, you must have too much blood.

Don't seem Chinese?

Why?

Cuz I don't bank on the color of my skin as an automatic passport to deeper knowledge; or an excuse to claim a style I've never really studied?

Cuz I don't walk around speaking Confuscian platitudes, or talking like a badass, in broken english while I hold my hand out for money?

You dig your own holes Huang...
Also I think hate is too strong an emotion to waste on you.

I think I've gotten my point across...
Other people have understood where I'm coming from, even if you haven't.

The majority of the board posters are becoming tired of this so I'm gonna let it die out.

You can keep screaming bloody murder if you want to... or delude yourself into coming to Hawaii... but my point's already been made...

A real kung fu man who'd really sweat blood and tears in the kwoon wouldn't waste time with a nothing like me.

And they DEFINITELY wouldn't be begging for a fight knowing jack and sh*t about my credentials.

Cuz it's long been known that a gun can bust any martial arts; and a man with no name or face has no honor by which to guide himself.

Also, fyi, if I want to play logical tic-tac-toe with your bogus statements, history, and claims:
I don't have to be an authority on any martial art...
I don't have to have any kind of name or honor...
and I don't have to fight you...

Studying ma isn't an excuse to be immature and try to solve every argument with violence.

I can imagine what you were like in school. "What!?! 2 plus 2 is not 3!?!?! I will fight you now teacher, with all of my 32 inches and 80 pounds frame..." :rolleyes:

Keep on digging...
I've had my say.

[Nick Lo]

Rory

I wasn't trying to claim Jiang Jian Ye as a fraud. As far as I know he's a wushu professor in china and he really has studied all those modern styles he claims with qualified instructors.

My claim was that it's ironic that huang's claim to a sifu (aside from his made up SeMen sifu) is a guy who has a video for every modern style on the market.

On top of that, for huang to make disparaging comments about modern wushu/taiji is completely outrageous.

Just cleaning up a few issues and then going to let this thing die.

[Nick Lo]

jon

Make one comment about Awad's unique looking Hung Gar and it makes you think you know me.... geeze. :rolleyes:

I thought your bagua instructor was your main sifu now anyway? :confused:

How's the san shou training coming?

I never claimed a martial art OR a sifu. The only thing I have claimed is a love of hung gar and wishing that I could train in a beautifully functional art like that one.

There's more reasons for anonymity than just sitting in a horse stance. It's because I'm just using what's said on these forums to hang these guys. There's no outside martial arts expertise required in order to call these guys on the holes in their own logic.

They put this out there for all the world to see, then speak on stuff as if they were an authority, on a board that's considered somewhat of an authority, due to it's association with kung fu magazine.

No experience required,
no expertise required,
no big famous name required,
just a little logic and some reading comprehension....and can you really blame me?

I may have snapped at you earlier, but I didn't appreciate attempts by you to bully me. Coming to kung lek's defense? They were his statements, let him defend them. You train hard from what I know, and aren't on my list.

Also, if you haven't noticed, I don't go after Kung Leaky anymore. See, he got hisself a sifu; so seems like maybe my comments weren't completely lost on him.

You could so easily connect the dots and put 2 & 2 together, but that would be giving me too much credit, wouldn't it? ;)

With that I'm going to let this thing drift away. I think i've changed those minds i CAN change. Still others may change once they've time to think, and once there's no longer a heated discussion distracting their attention.

[Repulsive Monkey]

does anyone have any bio on this guy c'os the more of him I see in the back of magazines the more I am weary of him. I do actually agree with the comment suggesting Jack of all trades -master of none. He calls himself a Taiji Master aswell as a master of a hundred and one other arts. I feel that its pushing the boat out a bit to expect people to believe he has mastered all these arts.
Im sorry but I don't feel you are ever gonna master Taiji with modern watered down competition styl wushsu sets, not in a million years. I would of thought like all great masters his reputation would of proceeded him and that he wouldn't need such advertising, but no he has do it through the medium of a hundred and one videos in the back of a magazine, very interesting eh!!??

[jon]

Nick Lo

I should not have attacked you personaly and im not really sure why i did. You are proberly right on the money and its simply me trying to get back at you for past comments. You are right my Bagua sifu is now my main teacher, however i still feel a LOT of loyalty to my former sifu. He built my base, he will always mean a lot to me.
Still that does not really excuse my attacking you THIS time so i will simply appologise.

I may not agree with you methods and occasionaly i find your posts offensive as i dont really believe in trying to start linage wars over the internet. Still your buisness is your own and i should not interfear.
Again you have my appologies and thank you for your meatured response.
I dont agree with what your doing but its not my place to stick my neck out either.

All the best
Jon

PS San Shao is comming along nicely, appart from the constant being beaten about the head and body part :)

[Brad]

If you could ask him how I could learn that many style in my life time please get back to me because i want to know his secret.

Well, with good basics and a good memory it's not unreasonable that he's learned all those forms. My old coach used to be able to memorize a routine with at least one basic application for each movement in a day or two. Now being an expert in each style is another matter entirely ;-) Actually, most of what I saw are basically modern wushu competition routines(not something JJY made up). The one video of his I actually watched in full, the form was completely legitiamate, but... his performance was absolutely horrible. It was still usable though.

[Brad]

Im sorry but I don't feel you are ever gonna master Taiji with modern watered down competition style wushsu sets, not in a million years.

Agreed. modern competition routines are still incomplete representations of the style and are only meant for competition or to give a basic overview of what a style is like. They defenitely can't replace the original stuff.

[HuangKaiVun]

Nick Lo, I'm not EVER going to let this rest.

You have insulted my teacher, a man who would KICK YOUR ASS so hard you would probably not live through it. I shall kick your ass for him.

In Hunan Province, Seng Men is known for kicking people's asses. You're going to find out the hard way how it's done.

Your sifu? Who is he? If he agrees with you too, I'll kick HIS ass.

C'mon, coward. FACE ME. Come face me whenever you want. And if you can't do that, give me an address so I can go there.


Rory, San Diego is not far from Phoenix.

I think we should meet so that you can show me how what I learned is absolutely "fake". I want to see YOU kick my ass too.

Give me a year to get established here. Then I'll go see you since you DEFINITELY won't dare come out here.

You, like Nick Lo, have drawn my ire as well. And we will settle this IN PERSON.

[Rory]

hehe ahah Come on over to San Diego I can see the paper now
"Arizona man attacks area teen.......teen wins"

[Fen]

OK guys, I think it's time to calm down. Huang, you don't need to prove anything, especially since you don't even know these people. Nick & Rory, you have never even seen Huang's Kung Fu, how can you make a realistic judgement on him because you "THINK" his sifu's a fraud? Plain and simply, you can't. So please, just calm down now!

Jason

[Rory]

Okay i should provide some evidence for my accusation go and look a taichi magazine or there internet sight and count how many styles he knows if you can honestly tell me that a person could know that many then please do

[Brad]

Okay i should provide some evidence for my accusation go and look a taichi magazine or there internet sight and count how many styles he knows if you can honestly tell me that a person could know that many then please do

Holy ****!!!! I happened to have the Wayfarer Publications catalog sitting next to me and decided to count how many vids he had out...

Jiang Jian-ye has 131 videos on Wushu/Qigong for sale!!!!! :eek:

I'm not even going to try and devide them up by style :rolleyes:

[HuangKaiVun]

You're in for the fight of your life, Rory.

We'll do this.

[friday]

can someone tell me how many styles this guy allegedly knows

[Nick Lo]

Okay, last post, for REAL this time.

I don't know that I made myself all that clear.
I've run into some wushu people before, and the way they do it in Chinese universities is to teach the principles of multiple styles and the forms that go along with.

My beef isn't with Jiang Jian Ye. It's not uncommon for people to know all the compulsory routines- from longfist to wushu mantis; government bagua to modern taiji.

I was just trying to point out how convenient it is that Huang names only one teacher; and that teacher just happens to be the guy with 131 videos out. :rolleyes:

Raise your hand if you think he ever went to anymore than a seminar held by this man...............................................
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Nice to see you all with hands in pockets. :p

Also, if he claims that guy as his sifu, he's got no business disrespecting modern style; claiming traditional style, or even speaking on the capabilities of traditional. :(

He|| he said he could recognize neijia stylists (and thus taiji people) from their combat stance. I thought most taiji people fought from wuji, and wouldn't that negate what wuji is all about? :confused:

Jiang Jian Ye just appears to be a government wushu professor putting out textbooks on video. Maybe it's a lot of styles but he's probly got the government-published textbooks to back him up.

Just don't want this discussion to become a Jiang Jian Ye bashing session- let's keep that focus on Huang. ;)

Okay I'll shut up now, for real...

[HuangKaiVun]

No, don't stop posting and flaming.

Tell you what, Nick Lo. Why don't you CALL Jiang Jianye and ask him how long I studied with him?

I've known Jiang for the last 7 years, and he and his wife will tell you so.

I studied modern style with Jiang, and I respect it tremendously. In fact, it's the combat applications of the modern stuff I learned from Jiang that I intend to unleash on you and Rory - and anybody else who is dumb enough to face me and say my tai chi is fake to my face.

C'mon, Nick Lo. Give me some contact information so that we can settle this in person.

[Fen]

Please stop the fighting. This not the way to solve this! Look, this is a forum not a ring, so keep the threats down!

[HuangKaiVun]

For YOUR sake, tao of wushu, I WILL stop.

[Fen]

Thanks Huang! It's not doing you case any good to keep going off like this!

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of you or your teacher Huang. If YOU know your lineage is true, and YOU believe what YOU are learning is TRUE, then well, I hate to say it, but for YOU it is!

If you question anything, do research. That's all I can say on this!! Good luck with your school, and don't let anyone get ya down. It takes a big person to open their own school and deal with the bullsh!t that comes along with it!!!

PM me or email me if ya have any questions!!!

Jason

[GeneChing]

I've done business with Jiang Jianye and have seen him demonstrate several times. I think he is the only person who has more videos out than my own sifu Wing Lam! Does that discredit them? I wonder. You can question whatever you like on this forum, after all that's what a forum is all about. And many masters are criticized here - there's no way to have a vital forum an not permit it. But frankly, it's just fleeting word on the internet, mere electornic blips in the vastness of cyberspace. Who really cares about that? Jiang's video series (as well as Wing Lam's) have made a significant contribution to the promotion of Chinese martial arts and no forum post will erase that.

Thanks for keeping the peace here, Jason.

[The Willow Sword]

your rantings sound very familiar to mine when i had that little spat with reemul. that whole incident changed alot the way i fight and how i deal with people on this forum. true i get kurt at times but the fact is ,,YOU dont know who this guy is and what he is about. personally i think he is a low life dip sh!t mutherfukker. Which is why you should just leave him be and not even deal with it. Let him come to you if he wishes(which he wont). i found out that in here they are just words and words dont mean Sh1t if you are not going to go through with backing them. not as to say that YOU wouldnt Huang. just that this guy already HAS you with his sh!t and you have allowed him to have you, just as i allowed reemul to have me.
in the grand scope of things regarding lineage and history and who studies what and how and who from. why even give a flying rats fuk WHAT ANYBODY has to say to you that is negative?
i doubt that you have even talked with your sifu about this and if he knew about your challenge here he would probably come to your kwoon and KICK YOUR ASS for answering to the fuk head.
you are better than that huang. Peace

Many Respects,,,The Willow Sword

[Fen]

No just do not need a round of TWS and reemul stuff!!

Thanks for keeping the peace all!! :D

[Ray Pina]

I feel it is possible to have studied a few styles and still hold a high-level, though I am against a chop suey aproach of a little of this and a little of that.

A strong foundation in one art will make you aware of your body, how it operates and how it draws power. From there, you can use it as a bench mark to judge other methods to see what appeals to you.

I am 28. I studied Issin-Ryu my entire youth. Something like 13 or 14 years. That's my base.

I only did Hung Gar and Wing Chun for about 3 years. I studied S. Mantis for about two. Each step was crucial.

My hung gar and Wing Chun teacher taugh me something priceless, sticking power. Also shifting and gates. But we weren't fighting.

I shifted over to his S. Mantis brother. All we did was fight. Taught me the importance of testing things out first hand.

Now I'm studying internal though I can't claim to be internal yet.

So what am I? Call me chop suey and I would be mad insulted.

In the end, I will always be my master's student, for what I am studying now is what I have always been looking for. But I wouldn't be able to understand it if his was the first door I knocked on.

Maybe this is off topic. In the end, who cares what anyone says. All this back and forth on the intrenet is silly. Martial artist can not settle these things with words, threats, lineages or teachers.

One way.

Peace
Ray Pina

[HuangKaiVun]

My sifu would NOT come and kick my ass, Willow Sword.

In fact, he'd probably APPLAUD ME. He's done the same thing in the past, facing guys in person.

But anyway, the dust has settled.


You're absolutely right, Evolutionfist.

There are quite a few guys who studied many different styles who have good skills in them.

In fact, the good fighters I've run into retain the ability to adjust themselves to various situations. Part of their ability to change on the spot was having had broad experience in various methods.

Jiang Jianye studied many different styles, but his roots are in modern wushu. Though he does do traditional forms as well, his art is colored by his foundation style.

The same holds true for a guy like Yang Jwing Ming, another master whose art is heavily influenced by the Fukien White Crane he learned as a youngster.

[Ray Pina]

You know what, I would go as far to say that my Wing Chun is better now, and I'm not studying Wing Chun. Same with Hung Gar.

What do I mean. If one wants to play the Wing Chun Chi Sau game, I can hold the same shape as them, but beat them at their own game. So who's wing chun is better?

This comes up a lot, and people here from the WC board read it and blast me that I don't know Wing Chun after three years and so on and so forth. Whatever. I don't care. I know I'm playing with better players through my friends at the Freemasons here in NYC. They're hardcore Wing Chun guys; swear by it. It's not the style, its the aproach. It's one's foundation, structural integrity, efficient movement. Then there is the mind game aspect, the set up.

I believe an art like Wing Chun could be grasped quite quickly if approached as a fighter. But maybe another could never "get it" if they approach it as a hobbyist.

Inside Kung Fu just ran an article on a student of Bruce Lee and his commitment to WC and JKD and this and that. In that article they have him kicking a bag, he's allmost falling backwards, hands down and out to maintain his shaky balance.

Now that's someone who has spent years at WC. If I can blast the bag with a higher kick (just for show), weight going forward while maintaining my hands in shielded position, or even striking from a tight position, should I teach him WC?

It's all relative.

[Ray Pina]

I believe that is exactly the point I was making. However, my teacher doesn't "claim" anything. In fact, he has a very small mouth and never promotes himself. It was hard as hell for me to find him.

He simply answers any question. He has trained with who he has trained with, those aren't "claims", those are facts.

One can "claim" their level of skill. That is another story. But for that, we are always open.



As a side bar, I'd like to mention I for one could care less about lineages -- though I've been blessed with solid ones in every style I have studied (experince has given me a decent eye). One doesn't learn from a lineage, but from their direct teacher.

I also don't care if its Ba Gua or Hsing-I or this or that. Give me something that works, something compact and easy. Give me something with power. That's it. That's all I'm looking for. Names and titles and histories and friends mean very little when you're facing off against another man.

You know that though, so ...

On the other hand, I respect my elders. For generations are built on the shoulders of others.

[David Jamieson]

I can't be discredited...I don't have any "credit" to begin with :D

Really though, I see so much politic here and in the martial arts in general it's quite disheartening.

My Sil-lum sifu will always be my sifu, but he no longer teaches me. This is by my actions and inactions alone.

I do not seek to make a name, I only seek to be a part of the greater thing.

To do that, all i need to do in my perspective is keep walking and keep practicing. So, I do that.

My moderation here has more to do with filtering the non-topical and keeping the porn out. The rest of it is merely reflections of those who post.

This place still remains an excellent resource for the martial artist and I will continue to support it to that end.

Nik, Huang and the rest of you, we do not know each other at all be we do share a common ground or two.

1. we are here posting and reading
2. we practice chinese martial arts at some level

the rest is details. Should we have the good fortune of meeting, I assure you the tea will be on me. Or the beer if that's your preference.

peace

[HuangKaiVun]

Complete agreement, Kung Lek.

The tea's on you - the FOOD is on me.

I cook well.

[Fen]

well put!!!

~Jason

[CD Lee]

Trashing teachers is such a mental excersice. It does not change a thing. The person doing the trashing usually does not know or ever seek out the teacher to see if they are real. That would be too realistic. So the trasher, in this case, learns nothing of the teachers skill.

The student of the trashed Sifu, learns nothing as well, as he has experience and reality on his side, and sees through the empty words. The only thing he learns is how anger feels as it burns inside as he hears all of the bullsh1t.

I have seen this stink before, and people who have not met these teachers are just noise.

I have seen things in the Kwoon before that I will never write about on this board. People would freak, and cry foul, and seek to discredit what you have seen with your eyes, and felt with your hands. They seek not to convince you that what you have seen is fake, but in all honesty, to comfort their own limited conception of what they believe to be true.

If your mind is closed, and you find that what you think is true to be false, your are immediately in a crisis situation. You will either open your mind, or wade into an ever-deeper quagmire of deception and false-hood, that exists only in the deep crevices of the mind.

[HuangKaiVun]

But serving notice to those would willfully destroy your LIVELIHOOD discourages others who would try such a thing.

I am a professional teacher. Martial arts is my job. I'm not some guy just sitting around at home - I'm a guy with a business and professional reputation to protect. There are people reading this thread who might become students of mine one day.

If I didn't call this out, this guy and his friends here would continually degrade my professional reputation. You all have seen it happen on this thread - and elsewhere where they tried to prove to the world how "fake" I am. We have arrogant novices trying to damage the reputation of established teachers for no reason other than to DESTROY their practices.

Though I didn't get any advances in my or anybody else's art out of this, I let it be publicly known that I cannot and WILL NOT be pushed around by anybody.

Those who wish to call me a "fake" - I'll call you on it.

[Fen]

Originally posted by HuangKaiVun
If I didn't call this out, this guy and his friends here would continually degrade my professional reputation.

Huang-
By not letting this die, you yourself are doing nothing but damaging your professional reputation! While, I do not agree with what has been said, especially by Nick Lo, I don't think that keeping this thread alive is going to help either.

As a professional martial artist, your #1 goal is to avoid conflict. By feeding the fire, you're making yourself out to be your own worst enemy! Just drop it, go on, train, and enjoy your life!

Who cares what people say. You have students, enjoy teaching, having fun! That's all that matters. Don't keep sweating the small things.

Jason

[Ray Pina]

My teacher said something to the entire class a while back that has always stood out in my mind, he said: "Don't worry, when you're ready, the people will come to you."

At that point I was all reved up to fight, fought any chance I got (with other willing MA). But as I learned more I saw that what I was doing before was just joking, and if I ever tried to cross hands with someone like my master's top disciples, I would have been in big trouble. I consider myself lukcy. I got some good fighting experince and can use it as a base to judge techniques, and I did it coming away relatively unscratched.

I would like to open a school someday down the road, when my master deams me ready. Another thing he said, "Don't open a school until you know weapons."

He's been challenged a few times since I've joined and I just heard about a guy coming over from Japan with a wood sword. Crazy.

If someone out there wants you, they'll come find you. Just do your thing until they knock on the door.

Best of luck w/school.

[black and blue]

Have you seen you Sifu fight?

If so, what did you think? Any surprises? What did 'you' take away from it?

[Ray Pina]

No, I'm not privy to be around these situations yet. I'm hoping in a year or two I can have the honor of standing in, accpeting these things -- at least the hand-to-hand ones. My weapons skill is pretty non-existant at this time, it's not my area of focus.

The closest I've come to seeing my master in action was a few weeks ago when he found out I wanted to go to the tournament. He smacked me around a bit and though it was really nothing on his part, I could feel the power, and its potential.

His power at his age is amazing, but that's almost taken for granted by me now. What blew me away is how he shut me down. Any and every move by me was answered by a heavy blow. NO BLOCKING. My arms were taken out of striking position, but I was getting hit at the same time.

I'm just starting to understand it now, through Hsing-I horse, but a senior brother has made me privy to the fact that the technology we are working on is actually now E-chuan.

Pretty crazy stuff.

Anyway, that encounter humbled me out big time. No need for me to go to a tournament, because I still have a lot to learn.

I'm just thankful for having the opportunity to train with my master and training brothers/sisters. All good people. Great learning environment.

[black and blue]

If you don't mind me asking, what are the characteristics of E-Chuan?

I understand it to be a blend of your Sifu's internal work. What are the principles, methods, attacking techniques, defending techniques?

With regards combat and power withheld, I've seen some amazing things from my Wing Chun Sifu. At demos he picks out senior students and asks them to attack (full power, as many shots as they like, whatever technique, nothing pre-arranged). He's completely relaxed and flowing, leaves them in a heap, never does more than give them the odd bruise or two. I've also witnessed the power he can create from zero distance.

Awesome.

[Ray Pina]

Honestly, from what I have seen, E-Chuan is unbelievable. One has to see it.

But it has what everyone is looking for: hitting from a safe position, power, control. The most valuable thing I have gained from my master is understanding, the way I view hand-to-hand fighting.


I see the holes now. I see the targets better, and they are everywhere along the attacking object.

Please, don't get me wrong. I'm just starting to see the light. I have a long way to go. But, on the other hand, my master's method is quite easy to learn. In less then two years my attitude has been completely transformed. He told me when I started that he could make me a good fighter in 2 years -- but that a MA will take a lifetime. I'll be there two years in February, and see how much more I have to learn, so I think he was right.

You sifu sounds sick as well. I like WC. I think you guys and S. Mantis are the best of the Southern First hands down.

[black and blue]

The thing that gets me most about my sifu is... I don't know... 'melting' would be the best word to describe it. I've seen some WC in other schools, and they're pretty good at what they do, but my sifu feels as though he's not there.

You fling in heavy shots and he melts around them - feels like your punching air :( You know the shots are on target, you've thrown them quick... he just blends)... until he hits you back... then you know he's there!

Once he's bridged, he has a reference point. He'll be looking at the class (not the student he's demonstating on) and is talking through a point, and will throw very powerfull attacks that he then stops an inch away from your face (on lands but contains the power so you feel like he's lightly brushing you). Once he's bridged (stuck), he doesn't need to see you to know where your vital points/open spaces are and where you're trying to go.

Something else, man.

I'm in the UK, so I doubt if I'll get to see your Sifu. If you can ever capture his movements on tape, I'd love to see it sometime. He sounds high level for sure.