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Alpha Dog

06-08-2002, 05:28 AM

If Carl isn't embarrassed by RedAhole's antics, there's something wrong with him. Some say there's no such thing as negative publicity but I disagree. Who would want a mindless loudmouth for a student anyway, running off about all the half-truths he's managed to grasp thus far in his "training" and forever associating his "knowledge" back to the school's teachings? It suggests a complete lack of discipline at the top, even if Carl is completely innocent.

RedAhole's incessant and ubiquitous noise has made this board of very little interest or value to anyone seriously interested in discussing Wing Chun.

gnugear

06-08-2002, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by Sabu
My sifu would hit me over the head. "Believe in the art, you idiot! Not in me!", he would say.

I think his belief in the art is hardly in question ... and neither is his belief in his instructors. Still no grounds for banning someone.

Originally posted by AlphaDog
RedAhole's incessant and ubiquitous noise has made this board of very little interest or value to anyone seriously interested in discussing Wing Chun.

His threads attract a lot of interest and many responses. The nature of this forum makes it difficult to discuss much of anything without some controversy. I guess "value" is a perception of the reader ... far too subjective for me to comment on. Still no grounds for banning someone.

Originally posted by yuanfen Really? "That kind of convicyion" as expressed?
Would embarass me.

Red and I are from the same family, and I've talked to him quite a bit off-line. By "conviction", I mean his eagerness to train and take in information. As an instructor, I think a roomfull of students with that kind of willingness, would be infectious. Everyone feeds off of that kind of energy.

As you said, I hear a bit more than what is "expressed" soley in the threads, so I can understand where you're coming from.

rogue

06-08-2002, 11:29 AM

Shun him, I have caught him cavorting with those devils on the JKD forum.

Are you guys serious?

byond

06-08-2002, 11:48 AM

i dont agree with how red expresses himself at times....but i dont believe there is anyreason to ban him......if we ban people because they have a differant opinion than us than we will be like the communist government.......brian

and that not a good thing, thats a ..bad thing..imo

Sabu

06-08-2002, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by gnugear
His threads attract a lot of interest and many responses. His posts are ignorant. Those responding are gracious enough to provide some guidance. But he just doesn't get it.

The nature of this forum makes it difficult to discuss much of anything without some controversy. Controversy is one thing, uselessness another. Yes, indeed the uselessness of his posts cause controversy. Though the content does not.

dbulmer

06-09-2002, 02:17 AM

Someone who dances to a different tune can still have rhythm :)

yuanfen

06-09-2002, 07:29 AM

Can and does are two quite different things!!

dbulmer

06-09-2002, 09:51 AM

Yuanfan,
True, true but to ban him for expressing an opinion sounds overtly harsh. He's enthusiastic about his WC, his teachers even his own ability. Good for him :)

Why worry - life's too short!

reneritchie

06-09-2002, 09:52 AM

r5a is just a young WCK in love. They come around every now and then (just a little more than nice weather in Quebec, it seems), stir things (some for the better, some for the worse), then they move through the lust stage, mature, and become some of the first to get annoyed by the next new young WCK in love poster to come by (or they don't a move on). Just part of the process for some.

BTW - What's with the high trolling rate among the some of TO contingent? Get a beverage, dudes, and chill out, or you'll ruin our fine Canuck rep with the yanks, eh?

RR

DelicateSound

06-09-2002, 10:02 AM

Don't be such a ****, everyone is enttled to their own views.

gnugear

06-09-2002, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by reneritchie

BTW - What's with the high trolling rate among the some of TO contingent? Get a beverage, dudes, and chill out, or you'll ruin our fine Canuck rep with the yanks, eh?

RR

Excuse my ignorance, but what does"TO" stand for?

I'm not up to speed with all the acronyms:)

yuanfen

06-09-2002, 02:23 PM

TO=Mon+6 hours travel time?
Canucks- do they have a reputation?
Where?What kind?

yuanfen

06-09-2002, 02:30 PM

Canuck reputation with Yanks? What's a Yank? I aint one. I bet that in Cut and Shoot ,Texas
they havent seen many Yanks or Canucks in them parts.

Hau Tien

06-09-2002, 04:30 PM

You know... if you're going to have a poll for this sort of thing, there shouldn't be like 6 "Yes" answers and only one "No" answer. Your poll will be incredibly inaccurate... aside from that banning r5a is simply ridiculous as it is, at least give the guy a fair shot when you make up the poll... I took one look at it and went "Gee... this isn't biased at ALL. I wonder what answer the person who made the poll up least wanted me to pick?"

My opinion? Quit yer crying and move on. It's the internet... you'll be ok.

Just my 2 cents.

Hau

Spark

06-09-2002, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by gnugear

His threads attract a lot of interest and many responses.

I remember a member who is no longer here that attracted a[b]lot[b] of interest and many responses and that didn't stop them from getting banned!!! ;)

yuanfen

06-09-2002, 08:34 PM

TooTrue!!

yuanfen

06-09-2002, 09:22 PM

Terseness is a vice but uninformed lengthy gibberish is a virtue.?

rubthebuddha

06-09-2002, 11:51 PM

keep the bugger, for pete's sake. the whole wc thread has been crap lately no matter what dave and renegade have tried. instead of ripping on someone who is actually passionate about his art and complimentary of his teacher, maybe some of us should ask "why am i not passionate about my art or complimentary of my teacher?"

kudos to red5 for finding something he likes and sharing that enthusiasm with the rest of us. **** off to anyone who thinks that this is a bad thing.

mun hung

06-09-2002, 11:53 PM

red5angel does'nt seemed like a troublemaker to me. I've witnessed no disrespect from him towards anyone on this board, unlike the other posters who have been banned. No reason to ban him.

On the other hand - maybe we should ban you, Sabu AND the elephant you rode in on.

Chris99

06-10-2002, 12:53 AM

I think banishment to be unjust. You can always select the ignore button if he bothers you that much.

Just my two cents,
Chris

yuanfen

06-10-2002, 04:42 AM

Just? Justice includes evenhandedness. Invite Whipping Hand!

red5angel

06-10-2002, 06:29 AM

You guys got me all choked up with this attention.

Here is my deal:
I havent attacked anyone specifically, although I may have got a little zealous in my own defense with one or two loudmouths, I have yet to attack anyone specifically for expressing thier own opinions, and have even apologized on occasion for saying things I shouldnt have.
On Maturity: Most of you who are proponents for it, should show it more. Does it really matter to you what I say? As flattering as that may seem I dont think you should sweat it. ;) Who cares abot elephants, riddles and all that. At the very least my post are clear and well meaning, not veiled behind obscure references and inane humor designed to make one look far more intelligent then maybe they are?
I love wingchun, and I have a passion for doing it right. I talk about Ken and Carl because I feel they are doing it right, and well, and I can be doing it right by learning from them. If you think what you are doing is right why be so concerned? My challenge thread was taken way out of hand, it was a challenge to come see something different and challenge your own way of thinking.
For some of you, I have seen your wingchun, and was unimpressed, so your opinions on wingchun may be null and void depending on what you have to say.

My suggestion Sabu is you and your elephant find the ignore button and continue to make remarks that have nothing to do with wingchun, arent designed to help anyone, and have not even an inkling of the intelligence for which you accuse my post of missing. Atleast I am attempting to discuss with people. ;)

Thanks for all of you that voted one way or the other! :D

Merryprankster

06-10-2002, 06:56 AM

Sabu=Schmuck.

What an arse.
Such arrogance.
Such temerity.
A bald-faced schmoe, if you will.

Shall I continue?

I can't believe that I actually read a thread title with this on it.

I don't even know the guy. Don't give a crap about his WC. But I CERTAINLY know an inquisitive, curious, and open mind when I see one.

Just because he disagrees with people who have more experience somehow makes him wrong? This is not necessarily true. Perhaps in time, it will be shown that his ideas were wrong... or maybe not. But a good idea from an idiot is still a good idea (red, I'm not calling you an idiot.). Hell, I don't like what Ralek has to say, but every now and then, he posts something that actually has a nugget of truth and value. Shooter and I don't see eye to eye, but I sure do see the value in what he says.

Personally, I commend him for his patience in continuing to post and discuss things on the WC forum. With the kinds of answers he gets here, I would have gone ape-**** on your haughty little asses months ago.

But hey, what do I know? I'm not an enlightened WC practicioner--I'm a knuckle dragging BJJer. Oh, I also pick my nose and choke other people unconcious so I can use their hands to wipe my ass after I poop.

:rolleyes:

Bah.

Mr Punch

06-10-2002, 07:05 AM

Ban this thread.

Ban everyone!

But r5a particularly...

No.

reneritchie

06-10-2002, 08:30 AM

gnugear - TO is TorontO (Ontario, Canada).

Joy - Stop Trolling 8) (and it's about 5 hours by car, and the same now by plane with all the delays on both ends ;)

RR

yuanfen

06-10-2002, 09:13 AM

Ban them all
The long and the short and the tall
ban them all
I have seen the wing chun of springtime
I have seen it with its fall
But the art of larry, curly and moe
beats them all. beats them all.
The long and the short and the tall.

Mr Punch

06-10-2002, 09:27 AM

I like it Joy, I like it!

pvwingchun

06-10-2002, 10:07 AM

Being new to these forums those of you who do not like what I have to say will probably ask to have me banned. I usually don't get involved in converstaions that are spiraling into the dark hole of stupidity and name calling, which most on these forums end up being it seems. Should anyone person be banned, No. Unless there posts personally attack others and are constantly looking to spark controversy which in itself is not bad. But it is the manner in which it is done. But what I read in these forums is mostly garbage. It doesn't seem that anyone can get anywhere without calling names and issuing challenges. Yes there is good solid debate and information but the amount of garbage one has to wade through is ridiculous. And then when I read acomment like the following,

But hey, what do I know? I'm not an enlightened WC practicioner--I'm a knuckle dragging BJJer. Oh, I also pick my nose and choke other people unconcious so I can use their hands to wipe my ass after I poop.

it really makes me not want to wade through the bad to get the good. And it is comments like the above that should be banned, not the person but the comments. Because right up to that point you were keeping it real.

The anonymity of the keyboard allows many people to be many things including brave, daring, insightful, full of wisdom, full of themselves, stupidity, etc., etc., etc.,.

I hope I have offended no one but I am sure that I have. And If I have then you are the ones that I am not worried about offending.

red5angel

06-10-2002, 10:54 AM

Well said pvwingchun.

yuanfen

06-10-2002, 11:17 AM

You agree now? Hopeless red5angel you are not even reading correctly.
pvwingchun was commenting on the trolling merrypranksters remark and you were defending his post just recently.

Merryprankster

06-10-2002, 11:25 AM

pvwingchun--

It's called sarcasm. It's a tool like any other.

Here's the point, since I have to spell it out: I'm NOT a wc guy. But that doesn't make my comments in this instance invalid, because the thread itself is not about WC--it's about the way people treat each other, generally, and specifically r5a.

Unfortunately, many people can't seem to seperate that and respond with an argument along these lines:
*I* (Merryprankster) don't "understand," because I don't do WC.

Well that's right--I don't understand WC. And quite frankly, I don't post on the WC forum about anything that isn't GRAPPLING or Crosstraining related. I'm not qualified to speak on WC. But I do understand human interaction and tone of voice (tone of post?) as much as the next guy.

Sorry you don't like it. We're going to have LOTS of fun interaction if this is the way you feel about sarcasm... whooooo. :)

yuan--in what way am I trolling?

red5angel

06-10-2002, 11:29 AM

Yuanfen, no I was agreeing with the jist of pvwingchuns comment not on specifics.

blkbelt65

06-10-2002, 11:33 AM

Lets have the person who started this thread banned for Useless Non-Productive Whining.......

Chris99

06-10-2002, 11:33 AM

Hi Yaunfen,

I wasn't around for the infamous Whipping Hand so I don't quite understand your point here. Perhaps you would care to elaborate.

Chris

Originally posted by yuanfen
Just? Justice includes evenhandedness. Invite Whipping Hand!

pvwingchun

06-10-2002, 11:53 AM

I'm a knuckle dragging BJJer.
This is sarcasm...

Oh, I also pick my nose and choke other people unconcious so I can use their hands to wipe my ass after I poop.
This is not sarcasm. But a comment as bad as if not worse than any that I have read from r5a. This is saying that you do BJJ and are a bad mutha so don't mess with me (childish)

My comments were not whether or not you understood WC because it is obvious that you don't and that you practice at BJJ since you mention it constantly, that point was not missed by my astute enlightment (sarcasm). It doesn't take enlightment or WC to realize childish comments.

Obviously you were one of the ones I was talking about offending (oh well) and you have attempted to drag my post down into the depths to where I earlier referred and as such I will no longer to reply to those attempts.

red5angel

06-10-2002, 11:54 AM

Whippinghand was 'entertaining' to some but generally he made obscure comments without providing a lot of detailsand started alotof fights here in the forum. Its not a big loss but I can see where people would be upset he was banned.

Merryprankster

06-10-2002, 12:17 PM

Actually, you haven't offended me a bit. Sorry to disappoint. This is a forum--mental masturbation--it does, however, keep me entertained, and there are a group of folks on here that I have met and who's company I enjoy. So it has, in fact, served a purpose.

And, yeah, it is sarcasm through the use of hyperbole. The image of BJJers to a lot of KFO folks is one of aggressive neanderthals who go around picking fights and generally behaving like an idiot. To provide somebody with an exaggerated account of something that ludicrous, that fits their stereotype, is hyperbole, in that it is CLEAR that I do not engage in such sociopathic behavior. I used that in a sarcastic attempt to pre-empt the "you wouldn't understand argument," which in this case, I consider to be faulty logic.

Unfortunately, people take things (meaning themselves, what they practice, and the things they do) WAY too seriously around here. As though the pursuit of any MA is somehow of overarching relevance in today's world.

I tell people I do BJJ (On other threads--not this one--different purpose entirely this time) because it's important that they understand that I am not a CMA guy, and that I am speaking from a particular perspective.

In this case, the perspective of a knuckle-dragging, poop-wiping neanderthal....

red5angel

06-10-2002, 12:33 PM

Funny that you mention aggressive and arts MP, Wing Chun is supposed to be a highly aggressive CMA, but some have lost sight of that!

rogue

06-10-2002, 12:35 PM

This is funny.
Anybody up for some classical mess?

red5angel

06-10-2002, 12:47 PM

Rogue - ROFLMAO!! That sounds familiar!

pvwingchun

06-10-2002, 12:53 PM

I know I said I was done but one more time before I go to find enlightment.

quote:
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I'm a knuckle dragging BJJer.
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This is sarcasm... by means of hyperbole (your word).
From Merriams Dictionary.
hy·per·bo·le
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")

quote:
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Oh, I also pick my nose and choke other people unconcious so I can use their hands to wipe my ass after I poop.
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This is not sarcasm in the context in which it was written. You have used more than exaggeration here. You have attacked others by saying that because of BJJ you will "choke us and use our hands" for unmentioned tasks. Therefore you have only strengthened the image of

a knuckle-dragging, poop-wiping neanderthal that fits peoples stereotypes (your words).

Because if we do not know you personally as many don't then we do not know and it is not clear that you do not engage in such sociopathic behavior.

But that last line was good sarcasm because you quit before the attack.

As for MA's taking themselves to serious maybe some do, but my art is more than just a workout or training it is a way of life. Many of Wing Chun's fighting principles are also principles by which one can live their life. Relax (only WCer's will understand that).

And I am not easily offended or disappointed. Five years of graduate school wipes that ability away.

So let's just try and keep it real.:) :) as Bruce Lee was known to say "Be the Water."

Merryprankster

06-10-2002, 01:05 PM

pv--many people here, DO know me, my style of posting, etc. I have a lot of time to waste thanks to my job, and I waste a lot of it here.

If you interpret something as ludicrous as "I pick my nose and choke people out so I can use their hands to wipe my ass after I poop," as some kind of affront to other arts, especially when it follows "knuckle dragging BJJer," my only comment is that the 5 years of grad school must have been in a highly quantitative field, there Spock.

I maintain that the comment was hyperbolic in that such behavior is a clear exaggeration of anybody's behavior--even highly aggressive people typically would not use another's unconcious hands to wipe their ass with. I suppose maybe if they had a fetish.... but then again, that's a completely different issue, isn't it.

Ah yes---the old way of life argument. I shall leave that alone, as it does not belong on this thread.

Bruce was talking about BJJ bud... "Flow wid de go!!" ;)

pvwingchun

06-10-2002, 01:26 PM

Since you cannot seem to respond with a kind word or an intelligent response.

Merryprankster
06-10-2002 03:05 PM This person is on your Ignore List.

This is what more people should do.

apoweyn

06-10-2002, 01:31 PM

pvwingchun,

merryprankster is a personal friend of mine and just about the most unboastful fighter i've ever known. he mentions BJJ because he feels it's important that you understand the frame of reference for his comments. no other reason.

as for the sarcasm, it was very clear that he was addressing the fact that people on KFO tend to discount other people based on their style or background. Particularly, it seems, on the wing chun forum. In the case of BJJ, the words and actions of a couple of cerebrally-challenged fan boys has given the entire group an unfounded reputation as neanderthals. merryprankster tried to preempt anyone playing that card by playing it himself... to the hilt. exaggeration used to make a point. it's a common and effective tactic.

sabu, yuanfen, ...

what i can't believe is how much disdain red5angel has received. trust me, i've been arguing with the man from the first day he arrived. but he's thoughtful, open-minded, and good humoured. i can't imagine what the problem is. he admitted that occassionally he gets overzealous. who the h*ll doesn't?!

is it that his difference in opinion is threatening somehow? i refuse to believe that it comes down to his getting too boisterous occassionally. there's just too much of that going on already to get all bent out of shape about red5angel.

he doesn't make good points? i doubt that, personally. but even if that were the case, there's no lack of that on KFO either. but nobody bans all of those people.

what's the line of reasoning?

did you want a board where everyone sits around agreeing with one another? or perhaps regaling you with stories of elephants?

good grief.

stuart b.

rogue

06-10-2002, 01:32 PM

I thought MerryPs little self portrait was right on the money.

Anyway don't listen to MP, he's never used his MA on the street he just sits in his dojo sewing Badboy patches on his kimono.

red5angel

06-10-2002, 01:41 PM

Rogue, you forgot muttering No Fear slogans under his breath.

pvwingchun - that is probably the best idea. If someone doesnt like something or someone else it is best to ignore it.
You should understand pvwingchun that you havent really given MP a chance, you may have been floating around for a while but go to the general KFO forum and check out some of his threads, he has some good things to say a real knowledgeable guy, one of those rare jewels we are looking for in all this swine.......

pvwingchun

06-10-2002, 02:00 PM

apoweyn

Merryprankster may be a personal friend of yours and and may be just about the most unboastful fighter you've ever known. But I have no martial arts prejudices there is good and bad, pluses and minuses in every art, it is how we use them. There is no need to make statement like he did because it was over the top and unnecessary, he should have stopped when he got to the second sentence because the point was already received. We can have sarcasm without the trash talk. And yes other people do tend to discount other arts and yes every art has cerebrally-challenged fan boys that has given the entire group an unfounded reputation. Why can't people see over that and the mentally challenged of the world.

I know exaggeration is used to make a point and that it's a common and effective tactic. But once again the second sentence of the comment may be perceived as sarcasm I am sure that many do not veiw it as such. It crossed the line of good taste.

Now he has personally attacked myself and my education. This is exactly what I am talking about. Why is it people cannot comment without personal attacks and challenges.

red5angel

I have read several of his posts and yes some of them are good and he is knowledgeable but I have no need for petty name calling and personal attacks. Good natured ribbing is one thing but the tone with which they are and can be written tells alot about a person.

urban tea

06-10-2002, 05:31 PM

I want to see your elephant. Redangel should not be banned. I agree with someone's post though - there is too much as5 kissing.

rogue

06-10-2002, 05:41 PM

Good thing none of you guys takes any form of TKD. With how often we get picked on you'd all be crying on the floor.;)

anerlich

06-10-2002, 05:46 PM

Red5A's OK, IMHO he has a bit to learn, but then so do we all.

MerryPrankster is a welcome addtion to this forum. I do BJJ as well as WC, so I'm a bit biased, but generally his comments are topical, interesting and give good info.

WhippingHand occasionally made a useful comment, but his main agenda seemed to be annoying others, and no one can convince me he had anything out of the ordinary knowledge-wise. I still believe he and Roy D. Anthony were the same person, funny how he don't post anymore.

Sabu offers little other than snide put downs masquerading as Kwai Chang Caine-speak, this biased poll, and some sort of elephant fetish. He'd be a better choice for banning than anyone else I've mentioned IMO.

Merryprankster

06-11-2002, 06:32 AM

Wow, I made somebody's ignore list! I knew it would happen eventually.

I feel so...so... PUNISHED.

You'd better learn to laugh at yourself, because you'll cry your eyes out if you don't.

Life isn't as serious a matter as we'd like it to be.

apoweyn

06-11-2002, 07:06 AM

pvwingchun,

"Good natured ribbing is one thing but the tone with which they are and can be written tells alot about a person."

as does a person's interpretation of tone. bear that in mind.

merryprankster wasn't reacting to you, was he? you hadn't chimed in yet. he was reacting to his overall experience on this forum. and in my experience, he has a point. the opinion of anyone that isn't practicing wing chun is often viewed as inconsequential and unenlightened regardless of its inherent worth.

stuart b.

yuanfen

06-11-2002, 07:13 AM

you are not on my ignore list. When you describe what a grappler
or a jutsu or judo guy might do, I listen.It doesnt hurt to know what one could encounter. When you talk about
pugilism- I pass over. If and When you comment on wing chun even by implication I smile
and ignore. When you are preoccupied with yourself- punished or unpunished - humorously or otherwise I chalk it up to ego.
yuanfen

red5angel

06-11-2002, 07:14 AM

Ap - I might take that a little further and say that this is 'generally' the case anyway. For instance if you were to go on the JKD forum and comment you would recieve many similar responses. Also if you were on the general forum and talking to people discussing a particular art, you may recieve this reaction.
There is a propensty for martial artist to forget that even though we may not be practicing an art, we can still understand fighting strategies and principles. I could understand this viewpoint when arguing fine details, those things you can really only pick up by studying the specific art in question but in general I think this statement is often misused.

Merryprankster

06-11-2002, 07:53 AM

Yuan--

If it is ego--that makes me neither more nor less human than any other on the earth :) I personally have no desire to transcend the human condition, because, in the end, that is all I am, or ever will be.

ps--I'd pass over what I have to say about boxing as well. I primarily throw it out there as an intellectual exercise to see what pops out. My experiences hardly qualify me to make brilliant observations on that subject. Quite frankly, you know more than I do about it.

And, I don't know jack about WC--but I think discussing fight strategy is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I don't recall ever having said WC is this or that or anything else. I've asked some questions which have been shoddily answered on occasion (not by you, I might add, not that you seem to care much, one way or the other), but as far as trying to pigeon hole WC...nope, don't think I've done it.

pvwingchun

06-11-2002, 08:52 AM

apoweyn

as does a person's interpretation of tone. bear that in mind.

Bingo. And both you and MP missed the tone. And yes I believe MP was responding to me originally. As I was simply responding as to how people treat others in here also. I was simply stating that a statment like he made could be mistaken. Thereby, proliferating the image that BJJer's are the knuckle dragging morons that so many have of them.

How would you or anyone else for that matter have felt if I responded with a similar statement about WC. (Beginning with Oh, I also pick....)

Honestly now.:D

And yes he has responded personally and I am sure that at least one of his other posts are taking shots at me since I no longer can or care to read them. Because as soon as I "chimed in" he was on me like white on rice. Instead of discussing his statement he continued with his over the top statements.

Once again sarcasm, tone and how something is written is one thing and how it is received is another and misinterpretation can happen on both ends. But there are ways of writing that can minimize that chance, unfortunately too many people stop to think and write it that way (and I am not singling anyone out this is a blanket statement). Those are the words we should concentrate on writing to keep the lines of communication open. Instead of just piping off people should think about what they say and write for a minute before sending then maybe we could all interact on a level playing field and there would be less misinterpretation in here.

pvwingchun

06-11-2002, 08:55 AM

That should be fail to stop and think.

DelicateSound

06-11-2002, 12:35 PM

pvwingchun: Lighten up mate. MPS wasn't being offensive, just humourous. Well I found it funny.

Believe me mate if you are offended by that then please don't post here anymore. Not only will it destroy you, it will waste board space.

Good job Ralek isn't this touchy... :)

As for Red5 - he's a decent bloke with good intentions and a GSOH. Differning opinionsshould be welcomed, not shunned.

Sabu is a twat.

Tigerstyle

06-11-2002, 01:51 PM

pvwingchun,
I'm curious as to how many people are on your Ignore List (if you don't mind my asking).

If Merryprankster managed to make it onto your ignore list... :eek:

In the main (Kung Fu) forum, MP's got some of the most intelligent, well thought-out, respectful things to say. All while being able to keep an open mind (and still strongly discuss his point). I can't imagine what you're looking for on this forum if MP's posts (mostly) aren't considered respectful of others :confused:

Then again, he is just a grappler... (spandex wearing thugs, all of them)

"Anyway don't listen to MP, he's never used his MA on the street he just sits in his dojo sewing Badboy patches on his kimono." "...muttering No Fear slogans under his breath."

LOL, @ rogue and red5angel!

pvwingchun

06-11-2002, 02:15 PM

I don't mind.

Just one.

And yes he does have intelligent answers out there.

All I was trying to say was that he was not helping his cause by using such remarks, he took it way to personal and started slinging arrows my way. If he doesn't want to be associated with those types (knuckle gragging BJJer's) then why make comments like that even if they are sarcasm.....Of course this is just my opinion of the situation.

Maybe I was a little hard on him at first but those kind of comments have no place in a forum like this. Once again just my opinion.

When people can't see your face what is to be written most be very carefully thought out.

Oh and I am very opinionated just ask my wife.

Peace.
:)

red5angel

06-11-2002, 02:17 PM

pvwingchun - opinions are welcome just ask anyone here...uh never mind. I welcome your opinions though and I promise to vote not to have you banned.......

Roy D. Anthony

06-11-2002, 09:46 PM

Hey Anerlich, I have no Idea what I have done to cause you such strife here non the forum. In fact, I believe your unkind responses to some of my posts were started by yourself. Unjustifiably as well. *S* However, i do not need to hide behind other names to state my opinions. Hope this solves your detective problems......LOL

But man you should get over it. Bad for stress.

Hope this Helps!!!

anerlich

06-12-2002, 05:07 AM

Roy,

Nice talking to you too.

Roy D. Anthony

06-12-2002, 10:23 PM

Exactly!!!
Hope this helps!!!

rubthebuddha

06-12-2002, 11:56 PM

anerlich isn't hiding behind any names other than his own. you just need to figure his out first.

unless i'm way off and anerlich is the greek god of hemophelia and '80s music. if so, i humbly apologize.

;)

anerlich

06-13-2002, 04:59 AM

unless i'm way off and anerlich is the greek god of hemophelia and '80s music. if so, i humbly apologize.

A career change seemed like a good thing. I wonder how WhippingHand's is going?

apoweyn

06-13-2002, 07:31 AM

pvwingchun,

Originally posted by pvwingchun
And both you and MP missed the tone. And yes I believe MP was responding to me originally. As I was simply responding as to how people treat others in here also. I was simply stating that a statment like he made could be mistaken. Thereby, proliferating the image that BJJer's are the knuckle dragging morons that so many have of them.

How would you or anyone else for that matter have felt if I responded with a similar statement about WC. (Beginning with Oh, I also pick....)

Honestly now.:D

And yes he has responded personally and I am sure that at least one of his other posts are taking shots at me since I no longer can or care to read them. Because as soon as I "chimed in" he was on me like white on rice. Instead of discussing his statement he continued with his over the top statements.

Once again sarcasm, tone and how something is written is one thing and how it is received is another and misinterpretation can happen on both ends. But there are ways of writing that can minimize that chance, unfortunately too many people stop to think and write it that way (and I am not singling anyone out this is a blanket statement). Those are the words we should concentrate on writing to keep the lines of communication open. Instead of just piping off people should think about what they say and write for a minute before sending then maybe we could all interact on a level playing field and there would be less misinterpretation in here.

we missed the tone? er, no. i don't think you can miss the tone in your own post. merryprankster was being humorous. he told you that. i know him to be that way. you can hardly suggest that he's misinterpreting the tone of his own post.

you can, however, suggest that it was worded badly, making misinterpretation easy. that's a mistake on two people's part and should be left at that.

how would i react if you used a similar tack regarding wing chun people? honestly? depends on whether i 'got it.' if i did, all's well. if not, you might have to explain it to me and then all's well.

seriously, mate, i think you're interpreting a level of hostility that just isn't there.

stuart b.